New v3.3 PROcede maps (9-9)

D.B.S · 09-13-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

Really...I didn't know that the new maps are better than the beta maps that Shiv sent out on 8-1....Hmmm....Can anyone else confirm this?

Been without my car for 4 days, it was in the shop getting some bodywork done... so i'm a little late on my little review... sue me... It's all good though...

boxter · 09-14-2009, 02:13 AM

Hi Shiv,

You have a MP mine

boxter · 09-14-2009, 05:54 AM

hI!

Do you know what is FUTURE USE 1? Now it is 0%,
Could you send me the documentation about map 9-9 (if it exists)

I read in the forum:

0=disabled remote control
1=enabled

Thanks

jpsimon · 09-14-2009, 08:42 AM

future use.... they are just empty fields that do nothing right now. in the future they will be used.

gimmes name · 09-14-2009, 12:55 PM

Shiv, in one post I read somewhere else you mention that the Lean-run Cruise feature works for rev I as well. However your user documentation for these 9-9-09 maps say otherwise. Which one is right?

Thanks

Gen_E92 · 09-14-2009, 01:16 PM

My default for "future use 2" is 100...is that normal?

OpenFlash · 09-14-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gen_E92

My default for "future use 2" is 100...is that normal?

Yep. That adjustable is completely nonfunctional.

Shiv

orionredwing · 09-14-2009, 03:17 PM

Shiv did confirm lean run works on rev 1 in another thread. Enjoy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimmes name

Shiv, in one post I read somewhere else you mention that the Lean-run Cruise feature works for rev I as well. However your user documentation for these 9-9-09 maps say otherwise. Which one is right?

Thanks

adrian@vishnu · 09-14-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxter

hI!

Do you know what is FUTURE USE 1? Now it is 0%,
Could you send me the documentation about map 9-9 (if it exists)

I read in the forum:

0=disabled remote control
1=enabled

Thanks

That is correct... this would also apply to Rick's guage as it uses the same input.

If you set this to 1 and guage will still not switch maps, then you likely have some other issue. I would recommend going to a previous firmware and testing it with that to make sure you hardware is OK.

Yinger · 09-14-2009, 06:12 PM

I noticed the ignition correction was set back to 100% on these new maps. Should we just change it back to 75% if we want the performance of the beta maps that were emailed out?

OpenFlash · 09-14-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yinger

I noticed the ignition correction was set back to 100% on these new maps. Should we just change it back to 75% if we want the performance of the beta maps that were emailed out?

Yes. 100% will always be the default Ignition Correction value for publicly posted maps. If you want to set it to 70% (more aggressive) you can do so. But it's always a good idea to back up that decision with a datalog confirm it to be an improvement.

Shiv

Yinger · 09-14-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes. 100% will always be the default Ignition Correction value for publicly posted maps. If you want to set it to 70% (more aggressive) you can do so. But it's always a good idea to back up that decision with a datalog confirm it to be an improvement.

Shiv

Got it! Hard to go back to 100% once you feel the difference haha. Thanks again! Can't wait for the new 6mt map to come out.

boxter · 09-16-2009, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrian@vishnu

That is correct... this would also apply to Rick's guage as it uses the same input.

If you set this to 1 and guage will still not switch maps, then you likely have some other issue. I would recommend going to a previous firmware and testing it with that to make sure you hardware is OK.

Shiv I set to 1 and the remote control doesn´t work, before with firmware 121 and map 7-29 all was ok.

When I start in valet mode (set to 1 in valet mode) and switch map 1 or map2, the DME must readapted again? Before with 7-29, although I drove in valet mode, when switched map1 or map2 the car ran very fine (only when I unplugged the battery, I had a short time of adaptation)

Thanks a lot

OpenFlash · 09-16-2009, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxter

Shiv I set to 1 and the remote control doesn´t work, before with firmware 121 and map 7-29 all was ok.

It should work. The only difference is now that remote control induced mapswitching doesn't induces SES light map indicator. That feature is only reserved for maps that are switched by the DTC button. Maybe that is why you think it is not switching? Monitor "current map selection" on the user software and you can confirm that maps are switching.

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When I start in valet mode (set to 1 in valet mode) and switch map 1 or map2, the DME must readapted again? Before with 7-29, although I drove in valet mode, when switched map1 or map2 the car ran very fine (only when I unplugged the battery, I had a short time of adaptation)

There really shouldn't be an adaption time required. Shouldn't be any issue with going between valet and map1/map2.

Shiv

MFKN3 · 09-16-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes. 100% will always be the default Ignition Correction value for publicly posted maps. If you want to set it to 70% (more aggressive) you can do so. But it's always a good idea to back up that decision with a datalog confirm it to be an improvement.

Shiv

Shiv,
In general, what octane fuel do you typically need to successfully lower ign correction to say 70%? I run shell 98 ron (93/94oct) and I got what I think are drop outs. Do more mods make it easier to safely lower ign cor.?

Is it fair to say competitors piggybacks operate at the procede's equivalent of 0% ign correction and rely on DME?

Also, when summer rolls in, is it fair to assume the user settings will need to be made less aggressive to compensate for the heat?

Thanks!

boxter · 09-16-2009, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It should work. The only difference is now that remote control induced mapswitching doesn't induces SES light map indicator. That feature is only reserved for maps that are switched by the DTC button. Maybe that is why you think it is not switching? Monitor "current map selection" on the user software and you can confirm that maps are switching.

There really shouldn't be an adaption time required. Shouldn't be any issue with going between valet and map1/map2.

Shiv

I have to check today if the remote control induces mapswitching, I am going to monitor "current map selection", thank you for you info!

The other issue is vital for me, now when I start in vmode and mapswitching, I must adapt and it’s a very uncomfortable
Then even if I start ever in valet, there shouldn´t be an adaptation time required? Do I install the firmware again?

THANKS A LOT SHIV

boxter · 09-16-2009, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It should work. The only difference is now that remote control induced mapswitching doesn't induces SES light map indicator. That feature is only reserved for maps that are switched by the DTC button. Maybe that is why you think it is not switching? Monitor "current map selection" on the user software and you can confirm that maps are switching.

There really shouldn't be an adaption time required. Shouldn't be any issue with going between valet and map1/map2.

Shiv

I checked the issue, when I set to 1, the remote control switchs the maps. After to use the DTC button, the remote control doesn´t work, it is normal (you told me too) Sometimes the DTC changed the map (I saw "current map selection) but the SES light indicator did not flashed.

You have a mail privated mine

jpsimon · 09-16-2009, 01:50 PM

I run 93 octane and easily run 70% ign. correction without any issues (mods in my sig)

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsboost

Shiv,
In general, what octane fuel do you typically need to successfully lower ign correction to say 70%? I run shell 98 ron (93/94oct) and I got what I think are drop outs. Do more mods make it easier to safely lower ign cor.?

Is it fair to say competitors piggybacks operate at the procede's equivalent of 0% ign correction and rely on DME?

Also, when summer rolls in, is it fair to assume the user settings will need to be made less aggressive to compensate for the heat?

Thanks!

Highflyr · 09-16-2009, 05:24 PM

Is it normal for boost to fall off towards the end of 3rd gear? I go from about 13 at 6000rpm to 9 or 10 by 6500 rpm. In second it holds 13 till 6800 then it starts to taper. I'm running 75%UT and 75% Ignition corr. I know it's supposed to drop boost before the shift, but I thought that happened after 6500RPM?

usc335 · 09-16-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Highflyr

Is it normal for boost to fall off towards the end of 3rd gear? I go from about 13 at 6000rpm to 9 or 10 by 6500 rpm. In second it holds 13 till 6800 then it starts to taper. I'm running 75%UT and 75% Ignition corr. I know it's supposed to drop boost before the shift, but I thought that happened after 6500RPM?

Maybe this will help you understand the PROcede boost curve. Here's what my Stage 1 PROcede boost logs look like for comparison:

As you can see, the boost drops off rapidly after 6000 rpm.

ontopofm · 09-17-2009, 09:27 AM

can someone post an instruction how to log timing with BT cable? im curious with this ignition correction, TIA

Ilma · 09-17-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

can someone post an instruction how to log timing with BT cable? im curious with this ignition correction, TIA

You can't use the BT cable while the Procede is active.

They both cannot share the Canbus at the same time and are therefore mutually exclusive.

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