"Regular" vs. "All Season" tires in Cali

ni8shadow · 01-25-2010, 05:05 PM

Want to know the ratio of regular to all season tire users.

goodstuff448 · 01-26-2010, 12:11 AM

Summer you mean?

E90SLAM · 01-26-2010, 12:18 AM

no need for all season....most summer tires (maybe except Michelin PS2)....are sufficient to channel rain and water away......as long as u pay attention not to burn all the way to bald in winter season....

Tee212 · 01-26-2010, 12:22 AM

arent all season considered regular?

ni8shadow · 01-26-2010, 02:29 AM

Yeah I guess I meant summer. Although I've been to tire rack and they have all sorts of "summer" categories like ultra and max. Seems like all seasons are out.

What's a good summer tire that is less than $110 per tire? Looking for responsiveness and handling. I heard you lose some of the responsiveness when moving to a non RFT.

Ron1n · 01-26-2010, 07:12 AM

You lose the turning sharpness, but that's about it. I'm going with Dunlops the next go round.

ni8shadow · 01-26-2010, 08:23 AM

Ouch? So you have to turn harder to get the same results?

Why do runflats perform better in that dept?

Ron1n · 01-26-2010, 08:58 AM

Stiffer sidewalls provide less 'flattening' when you turn, making the turn more sharp.

UncleWede · 01-26-2010, 08:58 AM

stiffer sidewalls provide more bite.

ni8shadow · 01-26-2010, 11:32 AM

Benefits of NON RFT would be lighter weight and better grip?

Ron1n · 01-26-2010, 11:38 AM

Smoother ride would be a better description. The RFTs actually have a pretty tenacious grip to begin with.

This thread is a good read. Also uses the Michelin PS2 ZPs as their baseline, as up to this point, they've been the pinnacle of the RFT class of tire.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279362

ni8shadow · 01-26-2010, 12:06 PM

Pretty pricy tires. Plus I'm on stock 16's. Anything similar too RFT that aren't RFT? Like tires with a "stiffer than normal" sidewall? Those Hankook's rec. earlier seem like a good route but I don't have 17's. Odd thing is I had a Mazda 3 and it was standard with 17's.

View Poll Results: Which do you use? Regular tires or All Season tires?
Regular	18	94.74%
All Season	1	5.26%
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01-25-2010, 05:05 PM	#1
ni8shadow First Lieutenant 43 Rep 363 Posts Drives: e90 328i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon Country iTrader: (2)	"Regular" vs. "All Season" tires in Cali Want to know the ratio of regular to all season tire users.
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01-26-2010, 12:11 AM	#2
goodstuff448 First Lieutenant 18 Rep 328 Posts Drives: BSM M2, MGray Tacoma, e46 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (5)	Summer you mean?
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E90SLAM Supreme Allied Commander 1963 Rep 61,781 Posts Drives: A BBS WHORE Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: . iTrader: (6) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 sDrive30i [0.00]	no need for all season....most summer tires (maybe except Michelin PS2)....are sufficient to channel rain and water away......as long as u pay attention not to burn all the way to bald in winter season.... __________________
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Tee212 Banned 81 Rep 4,541 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Riverside iTrader: (9) Garage List 2010 335 [8.00]	arent all season considered regular?
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01-26-2010, 02:29 AM	#5
ni8shadow First Lieutenant 43 Rep 363 Posts Drives: e90 328i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon Country iTrader: (2)	Yeah I guess I meant summer. Although I've been to tire rack and they have all sorts of "summer" categories like ultra and max. Seems like all seasons are out. What's a good summer tire that is less than $110 per tire? Looking for responsiveness and handling. I heard you lose some of the responsiveness when moving to a non RFT.
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01-26-2010, 07:12 AM	#6
Ron1n Speed Demon 205 Rep 3,690 Posts Drives: 2021 M5C Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Irvine iTrader: (6) Garage List 2021 M5 Competition [0.00] 2016 BMW 550i [0.00] 2011 335is [0.00] 2009 E93 M3 [10.00] 2010 335d [9.50]	You lose the turning sharpness, but that's about it. I'm going with Dunlops the next go round. __________________ Current: '21 M5C, '15 X6 50i Previous: '18 M550i, '16 550i, '11 335is, '09 E93 M3 DCT, '10 E90 335d, '07 E90 328i
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01-26-2010, 08:23 AM	#7
ni8shadow First Lieutenant 43 Rep 363 Posts Drives: e90 328i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon Country iTrader: (2)	Ouch? So you have to turn harder to get the same results? Why do runflats perform better in that dept?
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01-26-2010, 08:58 AM	#8
Ron1n Speed Demon 205 Rep 3,690 Posts Drives: 2021 M5C Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Irvine iTrader: (6) Garage List 2021 M5 Competition [0.00] 2016 BMW 550i [0.00] 2011 335is [0.00] 2009 E93 M3 [10.00] 2010 335d [9.50]	Stiffer sidewalls provide less 'flattening' when you turn, making the turn more sharp. __________________ Current: '21 M5C, '15 X6 50i Previous: '18 M550i, '16 550i, '11 335is, '09 E93 M3 DCT, '10 E90 335d, '07 E90 328i
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UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner 17977 Rep 9,377 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Dark Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA iTrader: (0)	stiffer sidewalls provide more bite.
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01-26-2010, 11:32 AM	#10
ni8shadow First Lieutenant 43 Rep 363 Posts Drives: e90 328i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon Country iTrader: (2)	Benefits of NON RFT would be lighter weight and better grip?
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01-26-2010, 11:38 AM	#11
Ron1n Speed Demon 205 Rep 3,690 Posts Drives: 2021 M5C Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Irvine iTrader: (6) Garage List 2021 M5 Competition [0.00] 2016 BMW 550i [0.00] 2011 335is [0.00] 2009 E93 M3 [10.00] 2010 335d [9.50]	Smoother ride would be a better description. The RFTs actually have a pretty tenacious grip to begin with. This thread is a good read. Also uses the Michelin PS2 ZPs as their baseline, as up to this point, they've been the pinnacle of the RFT class of tire. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279362 __________________ Current: '21 M5C, '15 X6 50i Previous: '18 M550i, '16 550i, '11 335is, '09 E93 M3 DCT, '10 E90 335d, '07 E90 328i
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01-26-2010, 12:06 PM	#12
ni8shadow First Lieutenant 43 Rep 363 Posts Drives: e90 328i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canyon Country iTrader: (2)	Pretty pricy tires. Plus I'm on stock 16's. Anything similar too RFT that aren't RFT? Like tires with a "stiffer than normal" sidewall? Those Hankook's rec. earlier seem like a good route but I don't have 17's. Odd thing is I had a Mazda 3 and it was standard with 17's.
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