RMC BMWCCA Spring Drive - June 6, 2010

16M4 · 06-07-2010, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpineSwift

I'll make this clear for you and Matt. I'm not blaming either of you guys because I know you both were in the same boat as me trying to concentrate on getting out of there without hitting anything. Unfortunately, I wasn't so lucky. The dark blue dinan M3 guy was trying to back up at the same time as me which was stupid in my opinion. I checked behind me to make sure no one was back there when I started to move and apparently with me focusing on the cars around me, Dan managed to get behind me. It was an unfortunate set of circumstances and just a total cluster F$%# trying to get out of the lot.

That is one aspect that needs to be addressed is people moving out of parking spaces. It goes one at a time in an orderly fashion. Not this "everyone race to get in line" like the group leaders had instructed. That was a severe lack in judgment on their part for doing it that way.

Dan probably should have honked his horn at me to alert me. There could have been other people watching that could have honked. The earth could have exploded. The universe could have imploded.

Get the picture? I'm over it guys. Really, I am. There's nothing gained from being upset about it anymore because what's done is done. Dan, My girlfriend, and myself are all ok. No one was hurt. His car will get fixed and my ass end will probably get me buffing out the scratches. As for the small and isolated paint cracks, I'm not even gonna mess with it until it becomes a long term issue.

There are nice people in BMWCCA. I admit that. But after being on this drive, it makes me question attending any events that involve driving.

Glad we're ok

raceyBMW · 06-07-2010, 11:55 PM

Guys, there is a reason they break people up into the "spirited" groups and those that want more of just a brisk leisurely drive. I would suggest for those of you wanting to not go quite as quick go in one of the other groups, I really think you would have a lot of fun in those. Again though, its pretty much how these drives are, a couple faster groups, and then those that want to enjoy the scenery a bit more.

Alfred, I thought that's why you got the JB3, to go FAST?!?

The gravel did suck, I just don't care about the rocks much since the front end of my car is beat up so much already, but if not I woulda been pretty pissed about it. It is the one problem with the spring drive, a lot of the sand from the winter is still on the roads. Poor Dan in his Z3 was behind me for a stretch, and I know my 275 were kicking up some nasty stuff behind me, even though I was trying hard not to cross over the center or sides.

Overall I thought it was a pretty fun drive, that did have a few organizational issues, especially after the first stop and everyone piled into "A" group. I counted 17 cars in that group at that time even though there were supposed to be 12 in each.

forza1976 · 06-08-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by raceyBMW

I counted 17 cars in that group at that time even though there were supposed to be 12 in each.

Guilty, but I wanted to go fast! I guess I'm a hooligan? I can live with that.

Dackz · 06-08-2010, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

Guilty, but I wanted to go fast! I guess I'm a hooligan? I can live with that.

AlpineSwift · 06-08-2010, 01:47 AM

Group C kept jumping in front of Group B and they were slowing us down. They got all pissed off at us for passing them when they were in the wrong from the get go. I think our leader finally said screw it and jumped in front of all the groups so we didn't get screwed again.

Bimmer This · 06-08-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by raceyBMW

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The gravel did suck, I just don't care about the rocks much since the front end of my car is beat up so much already, but if not I woulda been pretty pissed about it. It is the one problem with the spring drive, a lot of the sand from the winter is still on the roads.

I was going to say Craig that I remember seeing a lot of rock chips all over your hood and front bumper. Heck, mine even has a couple here and there and I hardly drive mine. I feel sorry for poor Matt with a nice M-Tec front bumper that probably now has minor rock/paint chips on them now because of the drive. LOL.

16M4 · 06-08-2010, 07:27 AM

Craig, I do like to go fast, but I have my limit where/when I can go fast. I am too much of a grandpa and can't go fast like I used to

raceyBMW · 06-08-2010, 10:06 AM

Yeah, well my paint is not OEM on my hood....or my bumper....or my front drivers fender....or my rear drivers side fender....

The aftermarket paint just hasn't held up to my style of driving very well. I figure one of these days I will get it repainted or get and m-tech bumper.

forza1976 · 06-08-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by raceyBMW

Yeah, well my paint is not OEM on my hood....or my bumper....or my front drivers fender....or my rear drivers side fender....

The aftermarket paint just hasn't held up to my style of driving very well. I figure one of these days I will get it repainted or get and m-tech bumper.

mtech FTW

Bimmer This · 06-08-2010, 10:29 AM

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Craig, I do like to go fast, but I have my limit where/when I can go fast. I am too much of a grandpa and can't go fast like I used to

Just admit it that you drive like Miss Daisy!

JasonCSU · 06-08-2010, 11:02 AM

Sorry to hear about the accident in the parking lot. I didn't even realize it happened until now. My friend and I were commenting on how leaving the parking lots was a complete clusterf*ck. Hopefully next time, we can leave in an orderly fashion and actually give people a chance to get out of their parking spots. I know the groups were supposed to leave in 5 minute intervals, but it seemed to be one mass exodus each time.

Which group were people driving careless? I was in the A group each time until Fraser and didn't see anything that was out of control. All the passing I saw was in designated zones. After Fraser, I followed Gary, the organizer, and a Z3 over Trail Ridge Road which was an adventure unto itself.

I had a bit of debris kicked up onto my car as well a few times. Hopefully there are no serious paint chips, but I should really just get a clear bra.

Dackz · 06-08-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Sorry to hear about the accident in the parking lot. I didn't even realize it happened until now. My friend and I were commenting on how leaving the parking lots was a complete clusterf*ck. Hopefully next time, we can leave in an orderly fashion and actually give people a chance to get out of their parking spots. I know the groups were supposed to leave in 5 minute intervals, but it seemed to be one mass exodus each time.

Which group were people driving careless? I was in the A group each time until Fraser and didn't see anything that was out of control. All the passing I saw was in designated zones. After Fraser, I followed Gary, the organizer, and a Z3 over Trail Ridge Road which was an adventure unto itself.

I had a bit of debris kicked up onto my car as well a few times. Hopefully there are no serious paint chips, but I should really just get a clear bra.

I went Trail Ridge after Granby......holy crap what a bad idea. I will never go that way...ever...again. Or at least 2 years or so, there is no way that road is getting fixed this year or probably even next.

forza1976 · 06-08-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackz

I went Trail Ridge after Granby......holy crap what a bad idea. I will never go that way...ever...again. Or at least 2 years or so, there is no way that road is getting fixed this year or probably even next.

Craig tried to warn you guys

JasonCSU · 06-08-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackz

I went Trail Ridge after Granby......holy crap what a bad idea. I will never go that way...ever...again. Or at least 2 years or so, there is no way that road is getting fixed this year or probably even next.

Yeah, I didn't realize it was under construction in various spots. The heavy rain didn't help either. I just wanted a shorter route back to Fort Collins so I could drop my friend off.

Bimmer This · 06-08-2010, 12:01 PM

Matt told me that he thought drive was too long. Exactly how many miles do you think the total drive was?

raceyBMW · 06-08-2010, 12:34 PM

It was about 350miles for me RT from my condo near Centennial airport and back...YMMV.

BTW, that's even shorter than normal, because normally they take 287 up to Laramie, and then some other roads back down to Walden.

raceyBMW · 06-08-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Yeah, I didn't realize it was under construction in various spots. The heavy rain didn't help either. I just wanted a shorter route back to Fort Collins so I could drop my friend off.

Apparently my parents were up in RMNP and said they saw a group of Bimmers roll through, lol, they were wondering if I was in there or not. They told me it even snowed on them, did it snow on you guys? Trail Ridge Road is not, and never has been a driver's road, its really for sight seeing only. Its just always too beat up from the weather and way too many cars on it on the weekends.

If anyone really wants a driver's road that is decently close to Denver, drive up to Lyons via I-25/hwy 7 and then take the Peak to Peak hwy 72/119 down to Central City. Golden Gate Canyon is another good one, and so is is the back way up to Mt. Evans/Echo Lake over Squaw Pass (my personal favorite).

JasonCSU · 06-08-2010, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by raceyBMW

Apparently my parents were up in RMNP and said they saw a group of Bimmers roll through, lol, they were wondering if I was in there or not. They told me it even snowed on them, did it snow on you guys? Trail Ridge Road is not, and never has been a driver's road, its really for sight seeing only. Its just always too beat up from the weather and way too many cars on it on the weekends.

If anyone really wants a driver's road that is decently close to Denver, drive up to Lyons via I-25/hwy 7 and then take the Peak to Peak hwy 72/119 down to Central City. Golden Gate Canyon is another good one, and so is is the back way up to Mt. Evans/Echo Lake over Squaw Pass (my personal favorite).

It didn't snow on us, but it did dump quite a bit of small hail that piled up looking like it had snowed in various spots. It's definitely not a drivers road with all the tourists passing over it, but it does have some incredible views.

I have driven hwy 7 and 72 before which was a lot of fun. I'll have to check out the other routes sometime.

16M4 · 06-08-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer This

Just admit it that you drive like Miss Daisy!

I can't deny the fact

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Originally Posted by Bimmer This

Matt told me that he thought drive was too long. Exactly how many miles do you think the total drive was?

Total from the gas station by my house back to my house, I spend a little over 300 miles...326 or so.

forza1976 · 06-08-2010, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer This

Matt told me that he thought drive was too long. Exactly how many miles do you think the total drive was?

Probably cuz I was so hung over and I wanted to

mattsfeir · 06-08-2010, 02:43 PM

I enjoyed the drive and will do it again.

I don't think the parking lot issues and group separation were the club's fault and I don't really have a solution on how they could be fixed next time without making the rules too strict. It would take a lot of the fun out of it if someone was there telling everyone what group they should be in and then determining the order of that group. Plus all the cars may have overwhelmed the existing process, too many E9X's.

Most people (myself included) were very eager to get out on the road and didn't want to get stuck behind a slow driver or get left behind w/o knowing the way.

The sand on the road was a bummer, but no way to avoid that, most lightly traveled mtn roads are the same in the spring. With sticky tires and high speeds you have to keep your distance.

The speeds were faster than expected, but I was comfortable with that.

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16M4 Colonel 131 Rep 2,978 Posts Drives: 2016 SO M4 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Broomfiled, CO iTrader: (5)	Craig, I do like to go fast, but I have my limit where/when I can go fast. I am too much of a grandpa and can't go fast like I used to
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raceyBMW king of the hills 92 Rep 2,915 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 w/ESS55, 2001 540i/6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arvada, CO iTrader: (1) Garage List 2001 BMW 540i/6 [8.17] 1994 530i [9.00] 2007 335i Coupe [8.37]	Yeah, well my paint is not OEM on my hood....or my bumper....or my front drivers fender....or my rear drivers side fender.... The aftermarket paint just hasn't held up to my style of driving very well. I figure one of these days I will get it repainted or get and m-tech bumper.
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JasonCSU Colonel 702 Rep 2,548 Posts Drives: '08 135i, '88 325is Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1988 BMW 325is [0.00] 2008 BMW 135i [0.00]	Sorry to hear about the accident in the parking lot. I didn't even realize it happened until now. My friend and I were commenting on how leaving the parking lots was a complete clusterf*ck. Hopefully next time, we can leave in an orderly fashion and actually give people a chance to get out of their parking spots. I know the groups were supposed to leave in 5 minute intervals, but it seemed to be one mass exodus each time. Which group were people driving careless? I was in the A group each time until Fraser and didn't see anything that was out of control. All the passing I saw was in designated zones. After Fraser, I followed Gary, the organizer, and a Z3 over Trail Ridge Road which was an adventure unto itself. I had a bit of debris kicked up onto my car as well a few times. Hopefully there are no serious paint chips, but I should really just get a clear bra. __________________ Delivered in Munich, broken in on the Nurburgring.
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Bimmer This Major General 99 Rep 6,473 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Westminster iTrader: (3)	Matt told me that he thought drive was too long. Exactly how many miles do you think the total drive was?
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raceyBMW king of the hills 92 Rep 2,915 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 w/ESS55, 2001 540i/6 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arvada, CO iTrader: (1) Garage List 2001 BMW 540i/6 [8.17] 1994 530i [9.00] 2007 335i Coupe [8.37]	It was about 350miles for me RT from my condo near Centennial airport and back...YMMV. BTW, that's even shorter than normal, because normally they take 287 up to Laramie, and then some other roads back down to Walden.
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mattsfeir Lieutenant 37 Rep 458 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CO iTrader: (2)	I enjoyed the drive and will do it again. I don't think the parking lot issues and group separation were the club's fault and I don't really have a solution on how they could be fixed next time without making the rules too strict. It would take a lot of the fun out of it if someone was there telling everyone what group they should be in and then determining the order of that group. Plus all the cars may have overwhelmed the existing process, too many E9X's. Most people (myself included) were very eager to get out on the road and didn't want to get stuck behind a slow driver or get left behind w/o knowing the way. The sand on the road was a bummer, but no way to avoid that, most lightly traveled mtn roads are the same in the spring. With sticky tires and high speeds you have to keep your distance. The speeds were faster than expected, but I was comfortable with that.
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