Vargas Turbo upgrades updated

tcw · 09-20-2012, 09:53 AM

Do you plan on partnering up with any of the tuning options available to have something specific available for stage 3?

dicostal · 09-20-2012, 09:54 AM

What is the Target WHP for stage II?
I am assuming that 550 HP figures are at the crank, so are we talking about 470WHP with Meth or Race gas?

I hope GIAC can be used with these!!!

Would we need supporting internals to handle this power or the stock clutch and Manual Transmission can handle these numbers?

thank you

ChuckD05 · 09-20-2012, 10:04 AM

I am pretty sure these will be good for 30-50whp over stock turbos and hopefully be able to hold boost much better in the higher RPMS so the avg HP will be the significant improvement over OEM

jpsimon · 09-20-2012, 10:22 AM

The stage 3 will work with any competent tune since they plan on using the stock or forge actuators.

BobS · 09-20-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

The stage 3 will work with any competent tune since they plan on using the stock or forge actuators.

True, although getting a custom map to work with these will be easier for some tunes than others

King mode · 09-20-2012, 10:41 AM

Cobb please

farbmw · 09-20-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BobS

True, although getting a custom map to work with these will be easier for some tunes than others

If everything goes as planned, we will soon have all our questions answered soon!

mister_jp · 09-20-2012, 11:35 AM

i'm really interested in the stage 3 !!! please pm me with more information when you gona have news !

i have 2 * 335 stock turbo waiting to be core for my upgrade !!

we could do a trade stock turbo vs stage 3

farb · 09-20-2012, 12:01 PM

Sounds good..can we see some dyno results for stage 1 and 2?

tcw · 09-20-2012, 01:05 PM

How about the 21psi boost limit?

Zebra99 · 09-20-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tcw

How about the 21psi boost limit?

Reflash the DME like Vishnu did....
Or is that when they switched it out for an N20 DME.

Either way, there is already a solution to this.

jpsimon · 09-20-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

Reflash the DME like Vishnu did....
Or is that when they switched it out for an N20 DME.

Either way, there is already a solution to this.

You just need a different sensor, not a whole new DME, to run higher boost. The reflash on the other hand is mainly to remove the fuel ceiling. Both will be necessary to really push the stage 3 the way it should be pushed.

tcw · 09-20-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebra99

Reflash the DME like Vishnu did....
Or is that when they switched it out for an N20 DME.

Either way, there is already a solution to this.

They use an AEM MAP sensor, but I don't know how they integrated it with the procede or if they would be willing to sell something that would work outside of their single turbo kit.

Tuesday · 09-20-2012, 01:50 PM

Every time I consider selling the 335 a thread like this pops up. Looks like I should hold onto it a while longer - N54 tuning is getting exciting!!

BostonBeemah · 09-20-2012, 01:54 PM

is there going to a be an option for the 1ers??? Im in the market for a turbo upgrade and these are gonna be number 1 on my list if they're available..

Ænema · 09-20-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tcw

They use an AEM MAP sensor, but I don't know how they integrated it with the procede or if they would be willing to sell something that would work outside of their single turbo kit.

Using an aftermarket MAP sensor isn't' an issue with Cobb or PROcede, Cobb has a table that functions as a MAP scaler that allows you to adjust for aftermarket sensors and i'm assuming PROcede works the same way using a different input.

Ænema · 09-20-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonBeemah

is there going to a be an option for the 1ers??? Im in the market for a turbo upgrade and these are gonna be number 1 on my list if they're available..

There are 2 135i stage 2 beta testers AFAIK. ChuckD on here and Rader1 on the other site.

Dmacc · 09-20-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonBeemah

is there going to a be an option for the 1ers??? Im in the market for a turbo upgrade and these are gonna be number 1 on my list if they're available..

These turbos should all fit just fine, stage 3 though I'm not too sure about just yet

Evil///M · 09-20-2012, 02:15 PM

I emailed Tony a week ago inquiring about a kit. Still waiting for a reply.

Dave W. · 09-20-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil///M

I emailed Tony a week ago inquiring about a kit. Still waiting for a reply.

I think he said they're just installing the first prototype Stage 1 on the shop car this week.

vereak82 · 09-20-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil///M

I emailed Tony a week ago inquiring about a kit. Still waiting for a reply.

I did also on BB I'm sure the details and cost and such is on hold until testing is complete.

King mode · 09-20-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by A4rings

And you are basing this off what?

Logic

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