Is this creaking noise normal?

Purplehayes · 10-12-2013, 10:07 PM

Did a search and didn't find anything so here goes. I have a 2011 335d that I just picked up as a CPO car with 29k miles. When the car is cold or when it is loaded down with 4 people or even a new tank of fuel, the car makes this god awful creaking noise which seem to come from the entire left side of the interior cabin. I have seen posts about a parcel shelf issue but I don't know if that is what I am dealing with. The car came from the local BMW dealer here with an extended warranty. Thank you in advance for any help with this

Jon

335dFan · 10-13-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Purplehayes

Did a search and didn't find anything so here goes. I have a 2011 335d that I just picked up as a CPO car with 29k miles. When the car is cold or when it is loaded down with 4 people or even a new tank of fuel, the car makes this god awful creaking noise which seem to come from the entire left side of the interior cabin. I have seen posts about a parcel shelf issue but I don't know if that is what I am dealing with. The car came from the local BMW dealer here with an extended warranty. Thank you in advance for any help with this

Jon

More detail would help. Does it creak when everybody gets in the car but it isn't moving? Creak when driving down a very smooth road? When does it creak? Without any other info someone on this forum might suggest a poltergeist.

kbsilver · 10-13-2013, 08:37 AM

Short answer is this is NOT normal.

Purplehayes · 10-13-2013, 10:16 PM

To be more specific, the creaking occures when transiting a driveway or speed bump. If the road is not smooth it will be making noise. I agree, this not normal. I will be taking it back to the dealer but I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this. I just hope this wasn't somehow a wrecked vehicle. Wouldn't think it would qualify as a CPO car if it had...

335dFan · 10-13-2013, 10:36 PM

Not an expert in these things, but sounds like some shot bushings somewhere.

chenry · 10-13-2013, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kbsilver

Short answer is this is NOT normal.

This

F32Fleet · 10-14-2013, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Purplehayes

To be more specific, the creaking occures when transiting a driveway or speed bump. If the road is not smooth it will be making noise. I agree, this not normal. I will be taking it back to the dealer but I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this. I just hope this wasn't somehow a wrecked vehicle. Wouldn't think it would qualify as a CPO car if it had...

For years I complained about a creaking coming from the right side of the rear parcel shelf and they could never locate it. It would USUALLY only happen when I transitioned over a tall speed bump or entered/exited a parking garages which had a dip/bump when turning onto a street.

One AM years ago I hear a loud crack/snap. It was really cold that day and the dealer didn't find anything which snapped.

AzureHaze · 10-14-2013, 10:17 AM

Another one of these issues? Well I'm not surprised...

gruppeM3 · 10-14-2013, 11:39 AM

I was just talking to my wife about this exact issue, this past weekend. It seems like it is the rubber seals that go around the doors. I noticed this started happening after it rained one morning. It sounds terrible. Like I'm driving an old ass car!

Purplehayes · 10-14-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AzureHaze

Another one of these issues? Well I'm not surprised...

Sorry, I'm new to this car. Could you elaborate and explain? Is this a common issue?

AzureHaze · 10-14-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Purplehayes

Sorry, I'm new to this car. Could you elaborate and explain? Is this a common issue?

No need to apologize friend. A simple search on the forum will reveal that creaking and squeaking noises in our cars are very common and it's a sad fact that we just have to suck it up. Maybe it could be the rubber door seal because I had that issue in the past and the stealership shockingly fixed it.

N8N · 10-14-2013, 01:57 PM

If it's the rubber door seals try cleaning them well & then treating them with some "gummi pflege" - unfortunately it seems that the Einszett product (all that you can buy now) is inferior to the product sold by the BMW dealer for this purpose and guess which one is significantly more expensive...

if you think it's the seals though I'd run it by the dealer maybe they will do it for you if you are under warranty

Brad335d · 10-14-2013, 02:54 PM

I have the same issue. What exactly is the fix for the parcel shelf repair?

I just do like the old NAPA commercial and turn the radio on and then its no longer a bother.

joe_planet · 10-14-2013, 03:15 PM

I fixed a very annoying squeak in the car. At first I thought it was coming from the seat, but alas it was in the door. More specifically it was the wood trim inserted into the door panel. The screws inside the trim are floating and can squeak as the car moves. I put a glob of silicone into the screw landing and then put the screw back in. Then I put the trim where it was previously and no more squeaks. I took it in to the dealership for this problem and they didn't fix it. Apparently I'm a better mechanic than their techs

335dFan · 10-14-2013, 03:25 PM

Another of the few advantages of old age---hearing loss. Don't hear the squeaks so much and/or can't sort them out from all the other ambient noises. Having said that, I do hear a slight drone between 40-55 mph that started after I did all the upgrade work earlier this year. Now I've even got used to that.

Purplehayes · 10-14-2013, 05:51 PM

Very good. Appreciate all the help on this guys. The door seals sure seems like a good place to start. I will call the dealer tomorrow and have them take a look. I was worried it might be something sinister like a previously damaged car. I hope it is a simple fix. I love this car, good to know there is a a great site like this for support. I will certainly get better acquainted with the search button. Thanks again!

joe_planet · 10-14-2013, 06:02 PM

There are no noises that are acceptable on a car of this supposed build quality.

Timujin · 10-15-2013, 10:38 PM

I bought my car used and it did this. The dealer lubed the door seals with some kind of lube stick and it's been good since. It was very concerning. The sales guy told me it was normal. They sell a lot of used BMWs and he was correct.

Brad335d · 10-15-2013, 11:05 PM

At least we don't have the wind noise of E92s, when the window seals get old and dry out the windows don't seal well at the top.

gruppeM3 · 10-22-2013, 02:24 PM

So I took my car in for this annoying noise. Also the SES light. The service advisor said that there is nothing they can do about it. I'm kinda pissed. How can they not do nothing about it? My car just hit 40,000 miles. This is ridiculous! I already contacted BMW NA. Just waiting for a response. Although I don't think I will get anywhere with them.

Pierre Louis · 10-22-2013, 03:31 PM

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So I took my car in for this annoying noise. Also the SES light. The service advisor said that there is nothing they can do about it. I'm kinda pissed. How can they not do nothing about it? My car just hit 40,000 miles. This is ridiculous! I already contacted BMW NA. Just waiting for a response. Although I don't think I will get anywhere with them.

Gee, my SA went out of his way to find a noise, even brought the mechanic into the car and I drove it. The second service call they found it. It was a pocket clip for a name badge that was buzzing: not even part of the car!

gruppeM3 · 10-22-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre Louis

Gee, my SA went out of his way to find a noise, even brought the mechanic into the car and I drove it. The second service call they found it. It was a pocket clip for a name badge that was buzzing: not even part of the car!

Well they did agree with me that it was the seals. But they said that I'm shit out of luck

10-12-2013, 10:07 PM	#1
Purplehayes New Member 1 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland OR iTrader: (0)	Is this creaking noise normal? Did a search and didn't find anything so here goes. I have a 2011 335d that I just picked up as a CPO car with 29k miles. When the car is cold or when it is loaded down with 4 people or even a new tank of fuel, the car makes this god awful creaking noise which seem to come from the entire left side of the interior cabin. I have seen posts about a parcel shelf issue but I don't know if that is what I am dealing with. The car came from the local BMW dealer here with an extended warranty. Thank you in advance for any help with this Jon
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kbsilver Captain 142 Rep 634 Posts Drives: 340GT & '22 eDrive40 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (0)	Short answer is this is NOT normal.
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10-13-2013, 10:16 PM	#4
Purplehayes New Member 1 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland OR iTrader: (0)	To be more specific, the creaking occures when transiting a driveway or speed bump. If the road is not smooth it will be making noise. I agree, this not normal. I will be taking it back to the dealer but I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this. I just hope this wasn't somehow a wrecked vehicle. Wouldn't think it would qualify as a CPO car if it had...
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10-14-2013, 11:39 AM	#9
gruppeM3 Private First Class 16 Rep 151 Posts Drives: E46 M3, 335d M-Sport, 4.8is Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I was just talking to my wife about this exact issue, this past weekend. It seems like it is the rubber seals that go around the doors. I noticed this started happening after it rained one morning. It sounds terrible. Like I'm driving an old ass car!
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10-14-2013, 01:57 PM	#12
N8N Lieutenant Colonel 170 Rep 1,843 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Berwyn Heights, MD iTrader: (2)	If it's the rubber door seals try cleaning them well & then treating them with some "gummi pflege" - unfortunately it seems that the Einszett product (all that you can buy now) is inferior to the product sold by the BMW dealer for this purpose and guess which one is significantly more expensive... if you think it's the seals though I'd run it by the dealer maybe they will do it for you if you are under warranty
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Brad335d Oil Burner 26 Rep 231 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Volvo XC60 T6 AWD [0.00] 2011 BMW 335d [0.00] 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 [0.00]	I have the same issue. What exactly is the fix for the parcel shelf repair? I just do like the old NAPA commercial and turn the radio on and then its no longer a bother. __________________ '11 BMW 335d Sport -JBD '07 Shelby GT500 -Not Stock
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joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	I fixed a very annoying squeak in the car. At first I thought it was coming from the seat, but alas it was in the door. More specifically it was the wood trim inserted into the door panel. The screws inside the trim are floating and can squeak as the car moves. I put a glob of silicone into the screw landing and then put the screw back in. Then I put the trim where it was previously and no more squeaks. I took it in to the dealership for this problem and they didn't fix it. Apparently I'm a better mechanic than their techs
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335dFan Jumping Jack Flash 321 Rep 1,692 Posts Drives: 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: California (east of Sacramento) iTrader: (0) Garage List 2021 BMW X3 M40i [0.00] 2017 Toyota Prius [0.00]	Another of the few advantages of old age---hearing loss. Don't hear the squeaks so much and/or can't sort them out from all the other ambient noises. Having said that, I do hear a slight drone between 40-55 mph that started after I did all the upgrade work earlier this year. Now I've even got used to that. __________________ 2021 X3 M40i: M Sport Differential, Adaptive M Suspension. Previous BMWs: 1971 BMW 2002, 1973 BMW R75/5, and 2011 BMW 335d Previous Other Vehicles: '67 Cougar, '70 911e, '86 Jetta Diesel, '05 and '12 Foresters, et al.
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10-14-2013, 05:51 PM	#16
Purplehayes New Member 1 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland OR iTrader: (0)	Very good. Appreciate all the help on this guys. The door seals sure seems like a good place to start. I will call the dealer tomorrow and have them take a look. I was worried it might be something sinister like a previously damaged car. I hope it is a simple fix. I love this car, good to know there is a a great site like this for support. I will certainly get better acquainted with the search button. Thanks again!
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joe_planet Captain 41 Rep 800 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: DFW iTrader: (1)	There are no noises that are acceptable on a car of this supposed build quality.
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Timujin Major 352 Rep 1,005 Posts Drives: GMC Sierra Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California iTrader: (9) Garage List 2010 BMW M3 [0.00]	I bought my car used and it did this. The dealer lubed the door seals with some kind of lube stick and it's been good since. It was very concerning. The sales guy told me it was normal. They sell a lot of used BMWs and he was correct. __________________ We grow food to feed the animals so we can eat the animals
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Brad335d Oil Burner 26 Rep 231 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2014 Volvo XC60 T6 AWD [0.00] 2011 BMW 335d [0.00] 2007 Ford Shelby GT500 [0.00]	At least we don't have the wind noise of E92s, when the window seals get old and dry out the windows don't seal well at the top. __________________ '11 BMW 335d Sport -JBD '07 Shelby GT500 -Not Stock
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gruppeM3 Private First Class 16 Rep 151 Posts Drives: E46 M3, 335d M-Sport, 4.8is Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	So I took my car in for this annoying noise. Also the SES light. The service advisor said that there is nothing they can do about it. I'm kinda pissed. How can they not do nothing about it? My car just hit 40,000 miles. This is ridiculous! I already contacted BMW NA. Just waiting for a response. Although I don't think I will get anywhere with them.
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