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05-05-2006, 11:44 PM | #89 | |
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Like I said before, I'm not saying there isn't an issue with the intake. What I am saying is that it is now impossible to see what the true difference is because the condition of the car has changed from one dyno to the next. |
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05-05-2006, 11:57 PM | #90 |
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i really still dont get why everyone cannot simply agree on things sometimes, the dyno results are clearly stated with the intake, and on anohter thread someone dynoed a stock 325 in manual with about 200HP to the wheels....i dont think having an auto would drop your hp that much...
and anyways, you guys sound childish and stubborn when you think too hard and start excuses like the world didnt move fast enough at that moment so the dyno didnt properly record the HP... .i know there are variables on dyno's (temp,pressure, and air) but cmon dont be so stubborn, IM TELLING YOU THIS THING IS A PIECE OF SHIT, HE LOST HP NO REASON TO ARGUE FURTHER!
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05-06-2006, 12:14 AM | #92 | |
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05-06-2006, 12:18 AM | #93 |
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"assumption is the mother of all fuck ups...."
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05-06-2006, 12:24 AM | #94 |
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and the mother of all fuck ups, is fajita...........
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05-06-2006, 12:26 AM | #97 |
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matsarge, not trying to get scientific here einstein but i beleive i incorporated common variables, such as, (temp, pressure, and air circulation)
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05-06-2006, 12:38 AM | #99 | |
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05-06-2006, 01:03 AM | #100 | |
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05-06-2006, 01:57 AM | #101 | |
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As long as you, mr.einstein, live in a place called earth, where dyno is only place for regular drivers to get power measurement out of, thats all we got. Since that is all we got, that is valid comparison. Stop arguing over a... what was your term? "Null" point. As long as conditions are *similar on the two different dyno days, its good enough.
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05-06-2006, 02:06 AM | #102 | |
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If I want to be able to tell I would have to put the original intake back on and re-run a dyno with it to get a new baseline then run a dyno with the new intake to see the true difference between them. BTW, it's easy to sound smart when you are. Last edited by Carnage; 05-06-2006 at 06:46 AM.. |
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05-06-2006, 05:31 AM | #103 |
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Agreed. Sorry to say, but any high school student who's had the scientific method drilled into their skull will tell you that we cannot reliably conclude anything with the data we have now. I'm not saying we should have hunter go and waste all his money on dynos to appease us, but there are simply too many variables unaccounted for to make any real conclusions. I mean come on, using Guess' manual car's dyno numbers? You can't compare the two. Automatics always lose more power than a manual due to the torque converter. Besides that and all the other environmental variables, nobody seems to even be able to properly dyno a steptronic BMW. Like matsarge said, he'll need to run two dynos back to back with the two different intakes now that he's got the catback.
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05-06-2006, 06:45 AM | #104 | |
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05-06-2006, 11:56 AM | #105 | |
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I have to chime in and back up Matsarge here. He did not come acorss as a smartass, and I don't think it's cool to label him as such.
In any scientific experient, if you want to test the effect(s) of one factor, you have to have a controlled environment where everything else other than the factor you're looking at is constant. And Matsarge's suggestion is the best way to see if the Fujita intake is of any good: by running back to back dyno with hunter's new catback w/ and w/o the intake. Quote:
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05-06-2006, 02:27 PM | #106 |
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matsarge.......you are absolutely correct. Once the control factor has been changed.....all is lost!
i do teach 3rd grade science........and the kids understand it perfectly!
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05-06-2006, 03:14 PM | #108 | ||
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I never said its accurate result, nor disagree with controlling the environment. I just said DEAL WITH IT. OF COURSE, when a variable is changed in an environment, result will be DIFFERENT. but we can't keep everything at the same, since we don't have some sort of dyno dome where we can keep all the control variables the same. What we can do is to keep things very "similar" and at least try to see some close-enough results. goddamn. some people just don't understand. As long as following conditions are similar, we can pretty say the difference is minimal(again, not accurate nor perfect) for at least what we have right now in year two thousand fucking six: -Outside temperature -Humid -Engine bay temperature -CEL check -minimal mileage difference on the car -gas used - same power fans @ same power - same dyno facility This is tuning world, and this is how we most likely do it. If you disagree, and want to keep up with your scientific theories and controlled environment crap, take it to NASA or something. this is not a place for you. Quote:
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05-06-2006, 03:20 PM | #109 | |
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