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GM stops Chevy Volt production
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03-08-2012, 01:46 PM | #45 |
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03-08-2012, 07:45 PM | #47 |
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The volt has only been on sale in all 50 states for a couple months. Original launch was in CA, MI, and DC. I believe they added Texas, NY, CT, and maybe one or two more later. This might have had an impact on sales.
HOV lane privileges in CA apply to the volt in 2012, so I'm guessing this will help sales. The prius no longer qualifies for HOV stickers in CA. Last edited by asus389; 03-08-2012 at 08:08 PM.. |
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03-08-2012, 08:23 PM | #48 | |
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And one more thing, the $7,500 tax credit applies to any plug-in hybrid vehicle, just not the Volt. |
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03-08-2012, 10:04 PM | #49 |
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The Volt is failing because the common man/woman can't afford to buy one. Alternate fuel vehicles WILL happen: A. because the price of gas is going to double; B. because the earth contains a finite amount of oil. Like it or not, our grandkids will likely be driving an electric or hydrogen vehicle... probably half the size of the current beasts we currently drive. Heck, if the Leaf were affordable, there would be one in my garage!
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This is not the only car that has very large tax credits. Even the BMW diesels had $4,500 eco credits. |
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03-08-2012, 10:11 PM | #51 | |
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GM sold more Volts last month, than BMW sold 1-series, Z4's, 6-series, or X6's. The fact they sold over a 1,000 units in a month is really good. The car was never made to be a high volume seller like the Cruze, Civic, or Carolla. This technology will take time to advance. Last edited by M3_WC; 03-09-2012 at 02:08 AM.. |
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03-08-2012, 10:17 PM | #52 |
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03-09-2012, 05:02 AM | #53 | |
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The problem with the Leaf is it is a second car for most people, and as a primary car how does it fit into city or suburban life? It has a limited range of maybe 100 miles (probably less) between 8-hour charges. What do you do when the power goes out over night while you’re sleeping thinking your leaf is getting its recharge? And if it’s really meant for a city, most city dwellers don't have a vandalism-fee spot to park it and charge it over night anyway. The Leaf has too many drawbacks to serve as primary transportation. |
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03-10-2012, 10:40 PM | #54 |
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Toyo sells a lot of Priuses to Rachel Maddow fans who don't watch South Park. Otherwise, not so much.
The math isn't any better for Prius buyers than it is for Volt buyers. Making up the price difference between a $25k Prius at 48mpg and a $17k Hyundai at 40mpg will take you about the same amount of time as a Chevy Volt over a Chevy Cruze, and for the average owner that time will be many years longer than they will likely own the car.
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03-11-2012, 08:36 AM | #55 | |
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But for a person in a city or close suburban driving situation (I live in a rural area) the Volt can make sense, if you keep it out of gas mode and the only advantage is really reducing tailpipe emissions (but not emissions from an electric plant). The Volt IMO is a better choice than the Leaf as it can run in electric mode most the time, but has no range limitation. |
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03-12-2012, 03:27 AM | #56 |
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Yes, if you can keep that gas engine off I can see how it could work. Or at least the math gets a lot more complicated.
But it does feel like we're finally headed in the right direction. If we put even HALF of all cars and trucks on the power grid we completely solve the energy crisis and any national security concerns about imported out, and eliminate half the air pollution as icing on the cake. Best part of that plan is, we don't have to change our car-centric lifestyle and move into communes and highrises. We don't even lose performance cars. And for what it's worth, IMO the secret to this plan is convincing women buyers. Men want power. Women want to get the kids to soccer practice. If you convince women to buy electric cars then the economic battle of our age is over. AND we get to keep our toys. :-)
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03-12-2012, 01:08 PM | #57 | |
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I stand by my statement. Sorry, but you're not going to realize a $20k savings in gas in order to justify the Volt. Even the OP did the math and agrees. |
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03-12-2012, 02:28 PM | #58 | |
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And I do agree with using Stabil in the fuel. |
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