Official N/A Dyno thread -

benzo23 · 03-24-2014, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Username: plasma23
Car/Engine: 330i/N53B30OP
Transmission:
Mods:BMW Performance Exhaust, BMW Performance Intake, Reflash
Dyno type: Dynodynamics
Peak numbers:
Graph:

You mean to say this ones making almost 330hp at the crank give or take?

Mike. · 03-24-2014, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

You mean to say this ones making almost 330hp at the crank give or take?

this cant all be from the N53 motor...can it?
EDIT- reread, that is at the crank 284

TheSt|G · 03-24-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

You mean to say this ones making almost 330hp at the crank give or take?

Since when does BHP stand for WHP?

benzo23 · 03-24-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Since when does BHP stand for WHP?

You're right, it was just a quick glance. I didnt analyze the whole thing

TheSt|G · 03-24-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by benzo23

You're right, it was just a quick glance. I didnt analyze the whole thing

There are dynos out there that can calculate drivetrain loss from the spindown, though I always found it to be a bit of a useless figure as what gets to the wheels is what is really important.

benzo23 · 03-24-2014, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

There are dynos out there that can calculate drivetrain loss from the spindown, though I always found it to be a bit of a useless figure as what gets to the wheels is what is really important.

Exactly and most graphs I see/read are all whp, that why this one threw me off.

Mike. · 03-26-2014, 02:31 PM

"So after I was the only 130i was a driver on the dyno today, I thought I'd share the result time with the rest of you, is for one or the other certainly interesting. Bin as far very happy with the result, considering that my 130s has now down 103,000 km and the 3 liter suction engine just like to spread downwards. irritate Only does me the power and torque kink at about 1500 rev / min, what can that be? Here the measurement:"

Mike. · 03-26-2014, 03:08 PM

thats it im going in and finding out. Wish me luck gents I went undercover!!!

haha! I just looked how it translated

so my name translates to microphone in german...

Taskmaster · 03-26-2014, 04:40 PM

LOL! Awesome work, I signed up too!

Mike. · 03-26-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

LOL! Awesome work, I signed up too!

So basically their gas thats eqiv. to our 93 is 98 octane. Thats what their tunes are tuned for. That is the big difference. Plus thet stress the Performance intake, very interesting.

Ps- talk in english over there, they can understand it haha

andrey_gta · 03-27-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Well,this is exciting - 250whp - Can someone read German?
http://www.1erforum.de/bmw-130i/leis...0i-167083.html

Interesting, a Dynojet hmm
I dont think 258 refers to WHP, it may be an estimate based off WHP data

Also

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

http://www.zroadster.com/forum/index....86655/page-10

Username: dwz8
Car/Engine: Z4 3.0si/N52B30OP
Transmission: Manual
Mods:
Dyno type:
Peak numbers:
Graph:

Thanks for findign this one, i lost track of this find. Very applicable to 330i/325i and z4 guys. 224 WHP - called Radleistung

andrey_gta · 03-28-2014, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Username: BimmerZealot
Car/Engine: Z4 3.0si/N52B30OP
Transmission: Manual
Mods: Stock with carbon removal vs RPI scoops
Dyno type: DynoDynamics
Peak numbers: 202.8whp (before) 208whp (after)
Graph:

Look at the peak past 6k rpm, it actually slopes up! I now may have motivation to do scoops

Taskmaster · 03-28-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Look at the peak past 6k rpm, it actually slopes up! I now may have motivation to do scoops

I know, I saw that too. There is no doubt they work, just how effective they are...

Appreciate you looking at the updates though.

andrey_gta · 03-28-2014, 02:05 PM

No prob, this is a good thread to notice patterns.
I've seen some of these, but never saved to PC, on the Baby BMW forums, 1er .de and in the z4's case the german Z forum.

Have you skimmed the bimmerforums.co.uk or the e90 .de forums? I recall that the e90 .de forum was slim on n52 discussion, infact 1er-forum.de was better for n52

andrey_gta · 03-28-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

I usally check on here, recently it has been 1er DE and I just scratched the surface of the Babybmw forums, and I wasn't aware of Bimmerforums though.The problem is the language barrier, which isn't a problem at home - but I do the majority of my searching at work (I get bored) and we are stuck using IE with no plugins. Meaning, no in browser translation support.

If you do run across any, you know the drill.

Do what I do for 90% of my finds. Google image search of keywords.
https://support.google.com/websearch...r/136861?hl=en

Use the exclude symbol: -e90post.com:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=n52+d...sm=93&ie=UTF-8
Images:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=n52+d...w=1920&bih=936

RazRokz.! · 04-02-2014, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

http://www.zroadster.com/forum/index....86655/page-12

Username: dwz8
Car/Engine: Z4 3.0/N52B30
Transmission: Manual
Mods: Stock vs Tune
Dyno type:
Peak numbers: 206whp (before) 226whp (after)
Graph:

I wonder if this is the SI or non-SI Z4? I'm getting AA to tune my wife's Z4 soon. Wondering if it's safe to expect these kind of gains.

andrey_gta · 04-02-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RazRokz.!

I wonder if this is the SI or non-SI Z4? I'm getting AA to tune my wife's Z4 soon. Wondering if it's safe to expect these kind of gains.

Those if I recall are the euro SI's being tuned. or Euro 3.0i's with the disa manifold from factory, just software crippled.

For you. If your Z4 is a USA 3.0i than a manifold swap & tune will result in what the US 325i's get from the manifold & tune.
3.0sI will get what tuned 330i's get, another 10-15 whp & Tq increases

Euro cars are abit diff, the 3.0i's with factory disa may be able to match the tuned euro 3.0si's

KingofKingz · 04-09-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by andrey_gta

Have you skimmed the bimmerforums.co.uk or the e90 .de forums? I recall that the e90 .de forum was slim on n52 discussion, infact 1er-forum.de was better for n52

1er-forum.de will be better, because the series 1 was never equiped with the N53 engine, but we have lots of N52s over there in the e90-forum.de, unfortunately noone got near the 300 mark.
And if you need any help in terms of translation just contact me

driverman · 04-26-2014, 12:56 PM

Many thanks to everyone, especially TheAxiom, for this thread.

It's great to see measurements of performance gains so we can make informed decisions.

Thanks again!

jc5988 · 05-09-2014, 07:02 PM

User name: jc5988
Car/Engine: 328i/N51
Transmission: Manual
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak numbers: 220whp/197wtq

Green: Stock Tune + PI
Red : ESS Tune + PI
Blue : ESS Tune + PI + PE w/ AFE Mid Pipe

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Taskmaster · 05-09-2014, 07:19 PM

Absolutely impressive - Record for an N51 I believe. Would really put this over the top, thanks for sharing!

David0ff · 05-14-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jc5988

User name: jc5988
Car/Engine: 328i/N51
Transmission: Manual
Dyno type: Dynojet
Peak numbers: 220whp/197wtq

Green: Stock Tune + PI
Blue : ESS Tune + PI
Red : ESS Tune + PI + PE w/ AFE Mid Pipe

Attachment 1024845

so exhaust mode crippled you
were you tuned for exhaust?

thx

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andrey_gta Brigadier General 298 Rep 4,040 Posts Drives: 130i coupé ;) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bimmerpost iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i [10.00]	No prob, this is a good thread to notice patterns. I've seen some of these, but never saved to PC, on the Baby BMW forums, 1er .de and in the z4's case the german Z forum. Have you skimmed the bimmerforums.co.uk or the e90 .de forums? I recall that the e90 .de forum was slim on n52 discussion, infact 1er-forum.de was better for n52 __________________ 128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, 3.73 diff, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE In-progress: //M front arm, M3 rack, e36M lip Wishlist: Coils, n55 mnts, headers, LSD, e60 finn diff "The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
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driverman Captain 38 Rep 715 Posts Drives: 2008 328i 6MT - SOLD Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA iTrader: (0)	Many thanks to everyone, especially TheAxiom, for this thread. It's great to see measurements of performance gains so we can make informed decisions. Thanks again!
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jc5988 Captain 91 Rep 611 Posts Drives: 2010 328i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	User name: jc5988 Car/Engine: 328i/N51 Transmission: Manual Dyno type: Dynojet Peak numbers: 220whp/197wtq Green: Stock Tune + PI Red : ESS Tune + PI Blue : ESS Tune + PI + PE w/ AFE Mid Pipe __________________ N51- PI - PE - ESS Tuned - SSK - CDV Delete - AFE Header - B12 - Mfactory LSD Last edited by jc5988; 05-14-2014 at 12:52 PM..
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Taskmaster Banned 2465 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	Absolutely impressive - Record for an N51 I believe. Would really put this over the top, thanks for sharing!
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