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07-14-2006, 06:44 PM | #45 | |
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By the time the DSC goes into full action, aren't you out of control of the vehicle? How would LSD be of greater value when you're dealing with the laws of physics? Wouldn't your back end slide out and then you would lose speed with your correction? Help!!!
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07-14-2006, 08:02 PM | #46 |
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Wouldn't worry about it...check out video
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07-14-2006, 08:15 PM | #47 | |
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During the part where it launches from a standing start, I only saw one tire-burnout mark on the road, specifically the left side. Was there another tire mark on the right side? I wasn't sure, because there was too much smoke in the way... Anyway, if there was only one tire-burnout mark on the road, then it provides additional evidence for the need for an LSD with so much torque on board available at such a low rpm.
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07-14-2006, 08:25 PM | #48 | |
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07-14-2006, 11:46 PM | #50 |
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1wd is better than 0wd i guess
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07-15-2006, 02:48 AM | #51 |
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A Quaife will be my first Mod on my E90 335. Really wish I could order one OEM, along with the M-pack interior. Helps with winter driving too.
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07-15-2006, 02:53 AM | #52 | |
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07-15-2006, 03:52 AM | #53 | |
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Most likely next year they'll have it for the US, along with the manual tranny.
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07-15-2006, 06:23 AM | #55 |
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$1500 for a limited slip? I had no idea they were that affordable - never priced one. Why are people always saying that it cost so much to upgrade to M specs then?
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07-15-2006, 11:00 AM | #56 | |
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07-15-2006, 07:35 PM | #57 | |
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If so, then I should get my eyes checked...
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07-15-2006, 07:48 PM | #58 | |
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Let's say you do all of that stuff anyway, then some guy gets a blower on his V8. Game over |
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07-15-2006, 08:59 PM | #59 | |
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07-15-2006, 09:06 PM | #60 | |
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You're right though, the ESS or AA ones are going to be pricey. |
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07-15-2006, 10:37 PM | #61 |
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from this thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24617
Notice where all the smoke and the skid mark is coming from... yup, the inside tire. What a waste of torque! |
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07-16-2006, 01:30 AM | #63 | |
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All that power with no control. I believe the cars in these 2 video reviews posted so far have DSC partially or totally disabled, because if the DSC were on, it will not allow such tail-out tire-burning antics to occur.
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07-16-2006, 01:52 AM | #64 | |
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Trust us, when you have 300 lb-ft going thru only one axle, an open differential with electronic slip control is a poor substitute for an LSD that is the only way to put all that power down to the ground effectively. Drive your car hard (safely of course, with no traffic around you please) thru some turns with DSC on and then with DSC partially off, then you'll appreciate that even our measly 255hp/220lbft 330i's can do with an LSD. If you don't appreciate it, that means you're not driving it hard enough, and that's fine too. Not everyone enjoys taking a turn at 8-9/10ths. But for the 335i with 300hp/300lbft to not have an LSD is kinda sad. I can't imagine driving it with DSC even partially off. But you can already see the results of that in those 2 video reviews that have been posted elsewhere on this forum. Anytime the driver powers out of a corner you only see one tire mark on the ground (the wheel on the inside corner) and the driver has to counter-steer madly to catch the tail as that tire slips too much.
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07-16-2006, 06:44 AM | #65 | ||
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But the tranny issue is still unknown right? I think the new tranny might be considerable more beefy. If that turns out to be true, I think you will be able to get 80-90% to an M3 for only 50% of the price differential. I think that by the time the M3 hits the streets late next year, we are going to see 335s already "matching" them. Bottom line is you don't want to spend all the cash on an M3 and then get smoked by a "lowly 3 series". It just doesn't sit well. Sure this could happen with any of the past generations. But I think this time, it might be a more common occurence. As a general rule, FI from the factory = cheap modability. Quote:
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07-16-2006, 08:16 AM | #66 | |
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What you say is illustrated in the video clip that was posted on this site, which featured the blue coupe (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24172). On the mountain switchbacks the driver was smoking the inside tire all the time. I do not recall ever seeing the tail end swing around. |
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