[mikem]

Carl doesn`t need common sense he`s a driving "god"

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

0-60 is pretty much irrelevant 'coming out of a bend' - since the 0-60 time factors in 1st gear performance and in your example I very much doubt that you used first.

The better measure here would be in gear acceleration which is generally stronger for diesels.

Given that the type r and cooper s are both considerably slower than my 330i I'm not surprised you overtook some.

Plus they were probably being driven by people with common sense.

mate they were well up for it thankyou

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by mikem

Carl doesn`t need common sense he`s a driving "god"

thankyou mike

[stormin norman]

Carl
you really love numbers. Here's a few more..
Buy Autocar mag this week and read the 0-100-0 times of all cars on test.
To calm the bulge in your pants read why they chose a B3 to represent the 3 series in the saloon car section. Then continue and see that the 335i stock stuffed the 335d in accelaration and stopping.
..But the b3 was king!
M3 was not available but having read many reviews i think the b3 is the better bet providing you can live with an auto.

Now go to bed like daddy has been telling you and if you are still thinking numbers count some sheep.

[dxb335d]

half a second to 60 the MANUAL 335i beat the auto 335d!!

[1stKnight]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

half a second to 60 the MANUAL 335i beat the auto 335d!!

Aye, shows how strong the diesel is eh?

The Auto 335i is only slightly quicker than the Auto 335d according to BMW's official figures: 5.7 vs 6.1 and 5.5 for the Manual 335i.

Many tests have achieved quicker times than these from the various cars but the differences overall are about the same between them.

Auto boxes are far superior to previous generations and the difference between Manual and Auto is becoming very close indeed.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by 1stKnight

Aye, shows how strong the diesel is eh?

The Auto 335i is only slightly quicker than the Auto 335d according to BMW's official figures: 5.7 vs 6.1 and 5.5 for the Manual 335i.

Many tests have achieved quicker times than these from the various cars but the differences overall are about the same between them.

Auto boxes are far superior to previous generations and the difference between Manual and Auto is becoming very close indeed.

Shame that there is no manual 335d

[330cdsport]

Anyone fancy scanning the AutoCar 0-100-0 article and posting it..... pretty please

[mikem]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Shame that there is no manual 335d

I think it would be a pig to drive. The clutch would be heavier than the manual M3 clutch and you`d constantly be running out of revs. Even my manual DMS`d 325d was a pain in the backside, quick diesels are much more suited to the slow slushboxes.

[330cdsport]

Originally Posted by mikem

I think it would be a pig to drive. The clutch would be heavier than the manual M3 clutch and you`d constantly be running out of revs. Even my manual DMS`d 325d was a pain in the backside, quick diesels are much more suited to the slow slushboxes.

I assume you are joking, as I think that is rubbish!

Auto boxes are horrible when it comes to driver involvement.

[mikem]

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

I assume you are joking, as I think that is rubbish!

Auto boxes are horrible when it comes to driver involvement.

Then buy a petrol.

[330cdsport]

Originally Posted by mikem

Then buy a petrol.

I would - only I just like the mid-range punch in a diesel too much.

Every time I have test drove a petrol (even very fast ones) I always felt there was something lacking.
I supposed my brain is a bit jellied now with all the diesel fumes abuse over the years

[mikem]

The M3 is the first non derv I`ve driven since 2003 (apart from a very, very gutless E90 320i courtesy car)

[Insider]

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Anyone fancy scanning the AutoCar 0-100-0 article and posting it..... pretty please

+1

[NFS]

Originally Posted by mikem

I think it would be a pig to drive. The clutch would be heavier than the manual M3 clutch and you`d constantly be running out of revs. Even my manual DMS`d 325d was a pain in the backside, quick diesels are much more suited to the slow slushboxes.

Why would the clutch be heavy ? ... the one in my 330i is lovely.

I do tend to agree that a manual is less of a joy in a deisel though, since the torque delivery is so flat there isn't such a need for rapid downshifting - which I think is a bit of a shame.

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Auto boxes are horrible when it comes to driver involvement.

I sort of agree ... I could live with an auto in my car, but only if I had a rorty little manual petrol engined car to chuck around as well.

Originally Posted by mikem

Then buy a petrol.

I did !

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Every time I have test drove a petrol (even very fast ones) I always felt there was something lacking.
I supposed my brain is a bit jellied now with all the diesel fumes abuse over the years

Diesel fumes are particularly bad for the brain. I think this is why diesel drivers buy caravans ... no-one would decide to tow a large box behind their car at anti socially low speeds unless they were mentally impaired.

[Evil Diesel]

The new Cayman diesel being demonstrated by NFS off on his hols ....

[NFS]

Originally Posted by Evil Diesel

The new Cayman diesel being demonstrated by NFS off on his hols ....

That isn't me ... I would rather french kiss a skunk than tow a caravan.

[booforty]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

That isn't me ... I would rather french kiss a skunk than tow a caravan.

So would I... I love skunk...

[NFS]

Originally Posted by beauforty

So would I... I love skunk...

Not 'skunk' ... 'a skunk'

Or is that what you meant

[red355]

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Anyone fancy scanning the AutoCar 0-100-0 article and posting it..... pretty please

the bit about the 335D & i is very short, I lent it out i can scan once I retrive it.

basically these are the numbers
measure--335!---335D--alpina B3--997 GT3
0-30-----2.18---2.26---2.08 ----1.59
0-60 ----5.33---5.84-- -4.78-----3.87
0-100----12.49--13.77--11.30----8.82
100-0----4.73---4.78---4.55 ----4.07
total-----17.22--18.55--15.85---12.89

so my plan is to I'm gonna save up next 18 months or so for a low miles 997GT3 (+ PCCB?) and keep the 335D/MINI. rather than get the year old 997s2 next spring.

well I can dream can't I?

[330cdsport]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Diesel fumes are particularly bad for the brain. I think this is why diesel drivers buy caravans ... no-one would decide to tow a large box behind their car at anti socially low speeds unless they were mentally impaired.

I bloody hate caravans with a passion - and the dickheads who dawdle along at 30 mph with a line of traffic behind them - without a care in the world.

Also annoys me when some of the following cars sit there close to the rear of the caravan and wont pass - and then flash lights and close the gap when you try to move up the queue. :mad: :mad:

OK - Rant over

Originally Posted by red355

the bit about the 335D & i is very short, I lent it out i can scan once I retrive it.

basically these are the numbers
measure--335!---335D--alpina B3--997 GT3
0-30-----2.18---2.26---2.08 ----1.59
0-60 ----5.33---5.84-- -4.78-----3.87
0-100----12.49--13.77--11.30----8.82
100-0----4.73---4.78---4.55 ----4.07
total-----17.22--18.55--15.85---12.89

so my plan is to I'm gonna save up next 18 months or so for a low miles 997GT3 (+ PCCB?) and keep the 335D/MINI. rather than get the year old 997s2 next spring.

well I can dream can't I?

Cheers Red

[squeezebm]

B3: for me