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03-20-2011, 08:09 PM | #23 | |
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I thought Terry cracked 122 mph at Famoso? Also your tune-only record was done at Sac. Your 119 mph trap is more like 116 mph.
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03-20-2011, 10:21 PM | #24 | |
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That same day I also ran at 11.87 with a pathetic 1.92 60' time. Trap speed on that one was 120.9 mph (would have been 123.5mph if ran same time in 2010. By far the fastest engine tune only record. Last visit to Famoso, Terry had one high boost run just over 120mph as he forgot to bring his tuning resources for the JB4. But again, I am comparing against 335i BMWs, not lightened 135i BMWs. On my 132.7 mph trap run at Sac, the Vbox read around 129.8 mph I believe. But on the other hand, I put in a new bottle and did a few 133mph Vbox runs. So fully 3mph faster than my run at Sacramento. I think you will find a car that can do a 6.9x 60-130 run is going to be running 130mph traps. Cars that run low 7's (ZR1, Carrera GT, Enzo, are all 600+HP, 130mph trap cars) Hopefully more members can record some Vbox times at their local tracks.
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03-20-2011, 11:18 PM | #26 |
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Okay, here you go.
January 31st, 2009 Sacramento: 12.357 at 116.849 Timeslip 12.4 at 117.4 Vbox April 11th, 2009 Sacramento (tune only record day) high trap 120.916 12.032 at 119.32 Timeslip 12.1 at 119.9 Vbox So the Vbox reads about .5mph to .60 faster than the time slip. (so only a .50mph advantage over Famoso instead of 3.5mph) Now lets look at Sacramento when the traps were optimistic by over 2.5 mph: January 9th, 2010 Sacramento: 11.911 at 124.069 time slip 11.9 at 121.3 Vbox 12.260 at 122.808 time slip 12.3 at 120.0 Vbox (so even in 1000ft+ DA, my 120.3 mph Vbox at Famoso would have been 123mph+ at Sac, instead of 119.2mph!, even on stock DP/Exhaust/Intercooler/Moderate boost/etc) March 13th, 2010 Sacramento 12.316 at 123.727 time slip 12.4 at 121.2 Vbox FYI. The vbox should read a little faster on trap speed since it calculates speed right AT the finish line. The ET is always right on, or a little conservative. Its rarely the 60' or ET is better on the Vbox than the actual timeslip. After the first run and seeing the track/vbox difference, I always know what my timeslip is going to say before I get it from the booth.
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03-20-2011, 11:48 PM | #27 |
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And here are some comparison runs from last weekend at Famoso:
11.967 at 119.01 time slip 12.0 at 120.0 Vbox 11.936 at 118.47 time slip 11.9 at 119.4 Vbox 11.819 at 119.28 Time slip 11.8 at 120.3 Vbox 11.925 at 118.22 time slip 11.9 at 119.2 Vbox So you can see the traps are 1mph less than the Vbox instead of 2.5mph faster (3.5mph net from the timing equipment alone). And then when coming back and running at sea level, my traps immediately went up almost another 2mph on the Vbox)
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2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) Last edited by hotrod182; 03-20-2011 at 11:55 PM.. |
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03-21-2011, 08:07 AM | #28 |
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Wow... thanks man, that is SMOKIN !
What does a stock M3 do in the 1/4 compared to your car? - just as a bench mark.
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03-21-2011, 08:16 AM | #29 | |
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0-60 rating is 4.6-4.8 seconds for a stock M3.
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03-21-2011, 02:15 PM | #31 |
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I am running BMS DCI.
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03-21-2011, 02:20 PM | #32 |
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Hotrod, you ever find any significant difference in power or times with the DCI?
Tune only? And with meth? I'm on the fence right now cause I went back to stock intake and felt nothing on the butt dyno but my testing is not as extensive as you so I figured you already crossed the DCI off the list by now if it was good or bad. |
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03-21-2011, 02:31 PM | #33 | |
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The sound is better with the DCI - meaner....
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03-21-2011, 02:47 PM | #34 | |
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2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) |
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03-21-2011, 03:23 PM | #35 |
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What do you usually break boost at when launching in 2nd...?
I found 2600+rpm launches almost put me in the wall a few times on rfts...
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Just better throttle response if anything going back to stock. Quote:
Reason I dont even like the DCI is everytime i go back to stock for dealer visits its impossible to get the stock intake on because the piping shrinks. So I said screw it and left the stock one on this time around. I also have the scoops and I feel pressurizing the intake box might be beneficial? Its all speculation of course without real data. I dont trust dyno graphs because they arent realistic with an open hood and fans etc. |
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03-21-2011, 06:19 PM | #37 | ||
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03-21-2011, 07:52 PM | #38 |
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Amazing how 15psi falling to 13.5ish with crap ignition traps 119 mph....
Thats pretty much exactly what my cobb stage 1 tune looks like. So safe to say cobb stage 1 should trap 119? Boost is the same, timing is the same. |
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03-21-2011, 08:04 PM | #39 | |
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Yea that was odd I would have expected more ignition on race gas with low boost. |
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03-21-2011, 08:41 PM | #40 | ||
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Also what are you looking for in the ignition timing. Should it go higher than 15 degrees or so? Should it shoot up straight to 15 degrees right after the shift? So what effect do you predict the additional meth nozzle is going to make? Think there will be a improvement? What about power output? Also, instead of a one gear dyno pull, please make about 6 back to back 0-130 runs so we can see how the timing changes. I would love to see some graphs soon! Quote:
Also, interestingly enough, since the track visit. I had all 6 injectors replaced. It seems that timing is smoother. I will try and post the graphs. Trap speed remained unchanged though, if not a tiny bit slower.
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2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) Last edited by hotrod182; 03-21-2011 at 08:46 PM.. |
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03-21-2011, 08:52 PM | #41 |
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I was being sarcastic. Here is why:
1. There is noway you are not maxing out ignition timing at that low of a boost level while using meth and/or race gas. 2. Ignition timing should almost never fall below 10 degrees, especially at that low psi and high octane 3. Last time out on the v5 I ran 18.5psi, meth and race gas and trapped 117-118mph (fbo in negative DA) and my ignition NEVER fell below 10. Either Cali is magic, or your logging feature is inaccurate. 4. You will not find another n54 with your mod list at that boost level along with that shit timing to even come close to 119mph. |
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03-21-2011, 08:56 PM | #42 | |
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same shit different day Hotrod what does your car weigh without you in it in your full race trim.
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03-21-2011, 08:59 PM | #43 | |
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So if my fuel is good, meth injection is working properly, why would my timing be so low? Because I am not CPS offsetting it? Also, are you running stock DPs, Intercooler, Exhaust also?
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2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) |
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