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      09-05-2012, 01:27 PM   #1
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Stretched Toyo TR-1 - Pics?

So I have 255/30 Toyo TR-1 on a 10" wheel right now.
I was recommended a 235/30 for that same wheel.

I want to see if anyone has a photo of the stretch with a 235/30 TR-1 on a 10" wide wheel?
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T1R 235.30 is a rare tire, they are crap for stretching in the fitment world. Known for its $ price tag and grippy performance aspects. Which is why no one uses them for aesthetics. They work on for minor aggressive fit with -2 camber due to their rounded side wall and narrow section widths so its applicable for some setups.

235.30 on a 10 will gap, leaving you a wide fender/tire gap unless you run -4 more camber with an aggressive drop (more than normal) to make it look good. Keep in mind the only reason we go wide/poke is to use a widest possible tire while stretching to avoid the fenders as needed. I would run a 245.30 where as i would run a 225.35 in the past.

heres some 235.30 on a 10 for you, it worked for my buddy's setup cause hes on -3.8 on stiff spring rates. Those quarters represents the gap, filling in that gap with extra contact patch/tire while still maintaining adequate stretch to clear would be goal.
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T1R 235.30 is a rare tire, they are crap for stretching in the fitment world. Known for its $ price tag and grippy performance aspects. Which is why no one uses them for aesthetics. They work on for minor aggressive fit with -2 camber due to their rounded side wall and narrow section widths so its applicable for some setups.

235.30 on a 10 will gap, leaving you a wide fender/tire gap unless you run -4 more camber with an aggressive drop (more than normal) to make it look good. Keep in mind the only reason we go wide/poke is to use a widest possible tire while stretching to avoid the fenders as needed. I would run a 245.30 where as i would run a 225.35 in the past.

heres some 235.30 on a 10 for you, it worked for my buddy's setup cause hes on -3.8 on stiff spring rates. Those quarters represents the gap, filling in that gap with extra contact patch/tire while still maintaining adequate stretch to clear would be goal.
Thanks for the reply Tee! I knew you'd know what'sup.

So, ideally, you're saying ditch the Toyos in favor of what?
I needa buy all 4 new tires anyway, so that's not a problem.

You're saying if I went with Toyos, to go with a 245/30?
But with other brands a 235/30?
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Run anything else but a falkens/toyos. Any of these brands will stretch nicely wide while run truer section widths..generals/kumho/achilles/federals/handcocks/yoko. Ive used and known others that ran those brands and have success with them. yoko iirc makes a 245.30 and i forget rear specs youre running?

Keep in mind all of those tire brand ive listed above are proven. They do the job for a bargain price. NEVER had a bead pop no side wall bubble/blisters. You can mix and match need it be in the future. But yoko s drive makes 245.30 and 275.30 to match. The stretch/match ratio would be very close too.


edit the photo above is a 18x10 on a 235.30 which is even more rare.
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Run anything else but a falkens/toyos. Any of these brands will stretch nicely wide while run truer section widths..generals/kumho/achilles/federals/handcocks/yoko. Ive used and known others that ran those brands and have success with them. yoko iirc makes a 245.30 and i forget rear specs youre running?

Keep in mind all of those tire brand ive listed above are proven. They do the job for a bargain price. NEVER had a bead pop no side wall bubble/blisters. You can mix and match need it be in the future. But yoko s drive makes 245.30 and 275.30 to match. The stretch/match ratio would be very close too.


edit the photo above is a 18x10 on a 235.30 which is even more rare.
Ok, cool.

You recommended
F: 19x10" with a 235/30
R: 19x12 with a 265/30

Price really isn't an issue as far as tires. I only drive the car in the summer anyway.
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What was your offset and final camber again? ive talked to at least 5 guys going 12's so im all confused lol
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What was your offset and final camber again? ive talked to at least 5 guys going 12's so im all confused lol
Haha I totally understand. You're the stance guru on here.

F: 19x10 +12 with a 235/30
R: 19x12 +35 with a 265/30

Also, why haven't I seen your car on like StanceNation an stuff?
It's the only REAL stanced e92 I've seen. They'd eat it up.
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ah ok run a 245.30 a 265.30 with roll, 275.30 shaved @ -2.5 all around. (12mm poke f/r)

Whips n chocolate ask me to do a feature for them but im lazy or lost desire for internet props perse. Armands red wbk mr2 was a product of my vision and i live thru his fame. That autocon parking alot was the closest to a photoshoot ive came across and i didnt even know that guy at the time lol. He added me on fb and sent me the pix (very nice of him). I just get my attention fix from driving around and feeling great helping you guys here thru pm's.

Just keep in mind whips n chocolate/stanceworks go for quality and stance nation and others just go for quantity. They just take anything thats low with some stretch, where camber/stretch/front/rear drop match rake is non existent.
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ah ok run a 245.30 a 265.30 with roll, 275.30 shaved @ -2.5 all around. (12mm poke f/r)

Whips n chocolate ask me to do a feature for them but im lazy or lost desire for internet props perse. Armands red wbk mr2 was a product of my vision and i live thru his fame. That autocon parking alot was the closest to a photoshoot ive came across and i didnt even know that guy at the time lol. He added me on fb and sent me the pix (very nice of him). I just get my attention fix from driving around and feeling great helping you guys here thru pm's.

Just keep in mind whips n chocolate/stanceworks go for quality and stance nation and others just go for quantity. They just take anything thats low with some stretch, where camber/stretch/front/rear drop match rake is non existent.
Ok, thanks man. Much appreciated.

Totally understand. You have an amazing car though man - Absolutely beautiful. When I get back out to LA this winter I'll hit you up and maybe snap some pics. Hopefully I'll have my setup almost complete.

Yeah, I meant StanceWorks. They're features are always better quality cars.

Thanks again man, you're the best.
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T1R 235.30 is a rare tire, they are crap for stretching in the fitment world. Known for its $ price tag and grippy performance aspects. Which is why no one uses them for aesthetics.


If you plan on going into fitment, you'll go through a lot of tires. That being said, I wouldn't recommend buying expensive sticky tires since they'll get used up fairly quickly. A lot of the time it's trial and error since different brands fit differently.
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