All COBB Tuning AccessPORT Flash for N54 335i Discussion Here

mixxer · 01-08-2011, 08:56 AM

Its about time someone stepped up to plate, kudos -cant wait for xi stuff.

PMW · 01-08-2011, 09:43 AM

This is awesome. I had a Cobb Tuned Subaru Legacy GT Auto and Legacy spec.B 6MT before getting the 335xi. I cannot wait until this is out for the 07 ECU and xi. By the way, (I have no affiliation) anyone in No. VA Mach V is an awesome, very professional, and knowledgeable tuning shop with and AWD dyno. I took my Subarus there. They just sold their Mini shop car and got a 335i. Their facebook page says they have the BMW accessports in stock. They specialized in Subaru and Mimi but seem to be moving hard into BMW. I have seen a lot of posts of BMW's on the dyno plus the new shop car.

cyman83 · 01-08-2011, 09:58 AM

does this work on 07?

**335i** · 01-08-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cyman83

does this work on 07?

as i know not yet

tscdennab · 01-08-2011, 10:04 AM

Question for Cobb on EU N54 cars: are they not supported or you didn't yet try to see if it works ?

**335i** · 01-08-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

Question for Cobb on EU N54 cars: are they not supported or you didn't yet try to see if it works ?

check this:

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Originally Posted by Danny@COBB

No eta at the moment, but it is being worked on! (maybe even AS I'm typing this...ya development and engineering team!)

I don't know when the EDM market will be covered. I'm assuming with this press release, some tuners/end-users will probably get in contact with us and we can add them to our field testers? This is all speculation on my end...

G.I.Joe · 01-08-2011, 10:33 AM

Well if Cobb need private testers in the EU, just let us know.... I for one have less patience than a wasp on EPO.....

Features like speed delimiter, DP fix etc. are also important. I have the BMS fixes, but would love to be able to code, change map and analyse/modify from the OBD connector.

Well, anyway, my Quiafe LSD is being installed Tuesday, so at least I'll have that to look forward to while waiting anxiously.....

enrita · 01-08-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SennaZ

I assume you guys could have come out with a 'piggy' if you had wanted - just curious what engine parameters your specific system seems to manage better with the flash approach [did you do any competitive product comparisons?]. Offhand, the Cobb platform seems to produce a bit more power than the other flashes, why? Obviously you're not going to reveal any proprietary stuff, but just asking in a general sense.

THey are running more boost than other stage 1 flashes.

SennaZ · 01-08-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

THey are running more boost than other stage 1 flashes.

Yeah, I noticed that, but I suppose my question is: why, how?... or is it just a matter of seeing how far you can push the envelope?

COBB Tuning · 01-08-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rosskie

U have a place in oregon somewhere??

Yes, in Portland called COBB Tuning Surgeline. The shop's website is at http://cobbtuningsurgeline.com

Tim Bailey is the head tuner and Dustin Harris is the lead tech. You cannot go wrong with these guys!

Gary

COBB Tuning · 01-08-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SennaZ

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Originally Posted by enrita

THey are running more boost than other stage 1 flashes.

Yeah, I noticed that, but I suppose my question is: why, how?... or is it just a matter of seeing how far you can push the envelope?

We can't answer that question as we don't know what tables and algorithms the other solutions have discovered. All that we can comment on is that with the control that we have of ecu parameters and with our understanding of the ECU logic, we are very comfortable with the stability and safety of these Stage1 Off-The-Shelf maps.

Gary

COBB Tuning · 01-08-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by slowSwede

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Originally Posted by **335i**

as they said at the moment they dont support eu ecus, if you want to wait just wait or get another tune (giac or ess and etc similar)

I'd prefer to wait but still have an estimate from Cobb. Waiting blindly is not my cup of tea. I know Cobb has a lot on their table, but not recieving some sort of clue as to when they plan to support eu ecu's is perhaps not the best way to keep an impatient sucker like me happy.

We certainly understand your position, but at the same time, providing you an ETA that we don't have a lot of confidence in due to the number of unknowns will cause even more frustration on the community if we miss it.

We're just not close enough at this time to provide estimates.

Thanks,

Gary

Rob@Cobb · 01-08-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SennaZ

Yeah, I noticed that, but I suppose my question is: why, how?... or is it just a matter of seeing how far you can push the envelope?

We have control of the ECU, pushing the power to a level we still feel is conservative. It's likely we will add more power as we continue to develop the platform. I have pushed my stock car pretty hard on 93 octane making a good bit more tq and hp than out current stage 1, but it's not as consistent given the, what seems to be, over active knock control.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SennaZ

I assume you guys could have come out with a 'piggy' if you had wanted - just curious what engine parameters your specific system seems to manage better with the flash approach [did you do any competitive product comparisons?]. Offhand, the Cobb platform seems to produce a bit more power than the other flashes, why? Obviously you're not going to reveal any proprietary stuff, but just asking in a general sense.

We have had a chance to sample some of the competition products and how they work. From the one flash product I have dyno'ed first hand, they seem to be super conservative in the lower RPM torque, but still push the power up high. I don't think this nameless flash I have tested is given enough credit, as far as power goes, in this market.

Hope that helps,
Rob

bigup · 01-08-2011, 01:25 PM

This may have been asked before -- does 'USDM' cover Canadian models, or are our cars totally different up here?

roninsoldier83 · 01-08-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by PMW

This is awesome. I had a Cobb Tuned Subaru Legacy GT Auto and Legacy spec.B 6MT before getting the 335xi. I cannot wait until this is out for the 07 ECU and xi. By the way, (I have no affiliation) anyone in No. VA Mach V is an awesome, very professional, and knowledgeable tuning shop with and AWD dyno. I took my Subarus there. They just sold their Mini shop car and got a 335i. Their facebook page says they have the BMW accessports in stock. They specialized in Subaru and Mimi but seem to be moving hard into BMW. I have seen a lot of posts of BMW's on the dyno plus the new shop car.

+1000

Also a former Subaru guy ('04 WRX & '06 STI) that converted to a 335xi 6MT, and is patiently waiting for the release of the AP for the '07 xi.

Infamous · 01-08-2011, 02:47 PM

does this tune have any automatic compensation procede-style regarding bad gas, elevation / other variables or even additional mods like downpipes or intercoolers or does that have to be written in with a stage 1.5 / stage 2 kind of thing?

does it require an external power source while flashing?

i have friends in the Z car / subie communities running cobb and i like the product; might even win me over soon but i'm very curious

cyman83 · 01-08-2011, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Infamous

does this tune have any automatic compensation procede-style regarding bad gas, elevation / other variables or even additional mods like downpipes or intercoolers or does that have to be written in with a stage 1.5 / stage 2 kind of thing?

does it require an external power source while flashing?

i have friends in the Z car / subie communities running cobb and i like the product; might even win me over soon but i'm very curious

what is different from 07 and 08 that this doesnt work on?

kjrulz · 01-08-2011, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by clemsonkev

so, in summary......

JB3 = _75___ HP gain (avg with no other mods)

Vishnu latest = __75__ HP gain (avg with no other mods)

COBB = __75__ HP gain (avg with no other mods)

corrected

stressdoc · 01-08-2011, 05:37 PM

Please be civil. E90post is a happy place ...

packinDSS · 01-08-2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

Please be civil. E90post is a happy place ...

There is a revolution going on since Cobb's release......with all the JB vs Proceed BS we all endured.....this doesn't seem nearly as bad as I thought it would be.

Christian. · 01-08-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTUNER

I am in when that happens. I had a lot of fun with the speed3 once atr was out.

Harry

Good to see you sir. I am hoping you can contribute to the BMW community as you did to the MS community.

Take care,
Christian.

nukezero · 01-08-2011, 06:13 PM

I have a question!

1. Is this flash detectable by the dealers when you take it in for service?!?!

2. What happens if you have the Cobb flash installed, then when you're driving your HPFP fails or your injectors fail, you get a check engine light or HALF-ENGINE light...
When the dealers scan your car for codes, will they see that someone tampered with the DME ??

If so, can we un-flash the car while we are waiting for the tow truck? Will the DME allow an un-flash with a check-engine light?

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nukezero Major 343 Rep 1,465 Posts Drives: BMW 3 series Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Irvine iTrader: (8)	I have a question! 1. Is this flash detectable by the dealers when you take it in for service?!?! 2. What happens if you have the Cobb flash installed, then when you're driving your HPFP fails or your injectors fail, you get a check engine light or HALF-ENGINE light... When the dealers scan your car for codes, will they see that someone tampered with the DME ?? If so, can we un-flash the car while we are waiting for the tow truck? Will the DME allow an un-flash with a check-engine light?
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