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Battery exploded in my trunk; Please read so this doesn't happen to your E9X.
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12-25-2010, 12:24 PM | #111 | ||
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So BMW imposes stuff you didnt ask for? Consumers asked for better gas mileage, heated seats, comfort access, pdc, nav, better steering feel, better suspension, better handling, more power, ipods, bluetooth etc etc etc. Well Im sorry to say that, for all this stuff that consumers wanted, they had to add modules and such for. Do you think slapping your standard 12v battery and basic alternator that a 1990 Buick had in it would be sufficient? NO! Like I said, why dont you go educate yourself on how the systems work as a whole, then come back and complain. The system is actually very efficient unlike what you say. |
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12-25-2010, 12:30 PM | #112 |
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Common knowledge would be to read your owners manual, or a repair manual before replacing any parts. Its clearly stated in the owners manually for your basic repairs on what to do.
This is out of the 2011 3series manual. Page 244 "Only use vehicle batteries that have been approved for your vehicle by the manu- facturer; otherwise, the vehicle could be dam- aged and systems or functions may not be fully available.< After a battery replacement, have the battery registered on the vehicle by your service center to ensure that all comfort functions are fully available." |
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12-25-2010, 12:39 PM | #113 | |
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12-25-2010, 01:13 PM | #114 | ||
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A good reference, as I said, are the competitors. Do they have to do this too? Let me guess; most can have an operating electrical that works ok and oh miracle, most of them don't have to "register" a new battery. I wonder how they can do this awesome achievement. |
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12-25-2010, 01:20 PM | #115 |
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Porsches are brilliant.
However, not only do you need to register a replacement battery, but you have the option of a completely engineered LI battery option for the paltry fare of $1700! Yes, I loved the simplicity of my old 2002tii. But this is 2010 and auto electrics are waaaay more complex. Because that is what the market demanded. Saintor I like your posts, but I disagree with your comment about Juiced46. He seems very knowledgeable to me about the issue here.
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12-25-2010, 01:27 PM | #116 | |
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Do you have proof that other competitors do or do not have to do something like this? Every manufacturer does things differently. If BMW doesnt do things the way YOU feel, then maybe you should go buy a Nissan |
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12-25-2010, 01:31 PM | #117 |
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This is a really weird story. But I'm sorry it happened
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12-25-2010, 01:53 PM | #118 | |
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12-25-2010, 01:57 PM | #119 | |
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Info from a past thread.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6904395 Quote:
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12-25-2010, 02:04 PM | #120 |
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I already explained the reason for registering the battery in this thread. If you would like a better explanation, im sorry its not going to happen today. Im posting from my phone and trying to spend christmas with my family.
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12-25-2010, 02:19 PM | #121 |
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BMW doesn't manufacture batteries. I guess that we wouldn't have to complain if there were not so many reports of 350$+ quoted by dealers.
On realoem, there is a list of non-AGM batteries with reasonable price. http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...99&hg=61&fg=30 How retail 123$, 136$ and 144$ batteries end up to the 350$ quotes above seem excessive, IMO. |
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12-26-2010, 10:03 AM | #122 | |
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Thank you! Very good info. So I guess BMW is the only one who does this |
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12-26-2010, 10:04 AM | #123 | |
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12-26-2010, 10:28 AM | #124 |
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So...what about using battery chargers? It seems to me these would confound the system. I often use a battery tender if I'm not going to drive the car for a week or so. I noticed when I hooked it up it took quite a while to get to 80% charged which in my opinion is pretty low. I was thinking of using it more, but now I'm not sure.
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12-26-2010, 10:42 AM | #125 |
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Not at all. Considering that changing a battery is a 20-30 minutes job top, 350$ is prohibitive, even with registering the battery (that sounds like a 2 minute process). I wouldn't be surprised if those quotes include a "diagnostic fee", or other kind of BS.
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12-26-2010, 11:18 AM | #126 | |
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It all depends on the car. Most labor time on newer BMW vehicles range from 1.0-1.5hrs of labor. This includes replacing the battery and the registering process which takes longer then 2 mins. There isnt a diagnostic fee, but you still need to use the same diagnostic tools to connect to the vehicle which takes much much longer then 2 mins for the whole process. Replacing the battery may take 20-30mins (depending on vehicle) but registering the battery is another good 20mins or so (also depends on vehicle) |
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12-26-2010, 11:31 AM | #127 |
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Dan Marinucci writes useful pieces for Motor. Here is a link to his explanation of the BMW battery registration process:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1 He indicates that battery registration is necessary for vehicles equipped with the MOST bus system. I gather this is because of the data processing capabilities that this provides, allowing for sophisticated adaptation algorithms, that can be assessed/modified via a ISTA hookup. I would add that it is probably a good idea to get the relevant parts of the electrical system tested (e.g., alternator stuff) when changing battery.
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12-26-2010, 12:00 PM | #128 |
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If registering the new battery is so important, why is there NO INFORMATION about this in the owner's manual under battery replacement??? The only thing the manual stresses is proper disposal of the old battery!!
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12-26-2010, 12:11 PM | #129 | ||
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I already quoted straight out of the manual, but I will do it again. Quote:
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12-26-2010, 01:36 PM | #130 |
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12-26-2010, 03:15 PM | #132 |
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JUICED46: Well, my car is an '09 not a 2011, and THERE IS NOTHING IN MY OWNER'S MANUAL ABOUT THE REQUIREMENT TO DO ANY REGISTRATION!! So I guess what I will do is what I have always done when the time comes to replace my battery-of course by then the warranty will be over and I intend to sell this complex POS with failing fuel pumps! Conversation over.
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