AR Design 4" Catless or ICARBON 4" Catless

BMW_B3AST · 03-26-2011, 03:55 AM

Decided this is going to be my next little mod .... Which should i get..?

AR Design =
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=432100

ICarbon Catless =
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455012

Did a little research but really can't find dyno's for the ar dp's ... So some suggestions would be appreciated.

Also in store for an exhaust a long with the down pipes.... Some suggestons on that..? Price Range is around 2000 +/-!

I like something like this..

http://gthaus.com/ehprice.php?selMak...&Submit=Submit

What do you guy's think...?

Thanks in Advance!
- Allan

Update:

Apart from "CEB" with his comments thanks to everyone for the info i ended up ordring Vishnu DP 3.5". Can't wait, will post new video's once installed.

Juiced46 · 03-26-2011, 08:55 AM

Go with the 3.5" Vishnu DP instead of a 4" AR. The 3.5" is better suited for the turbo on this car.

For exhaust, the Vanguard is a good choice @ that price

BTW- you should have posted this in the Forced induction forum

ceb · 03-26-2011, 09:36 AM

Why do this mod?

Any gains are going to be academic, it is bad for the environment, illegal and you'll have warranty and state emission problems.

Spend the money on a driving course. That'll make you a better, safer (and if it is what you're looking for) a "faster" driver.

A driving school will "add" more horsepower than any of these "lemming" mods. The only downside is that you can't brag about the school like you can about "catless" downpipes, cold air intakes and tunes.

skiernan36 · 03-26-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ceb

Why do this mod?

Any gains are going to be academic, it is bad for the environment, illegal and you'll have warranty and state emission problems.

Spend the money on a driving course. That'll make you a better, safer (and if it is what you're looking for) a "faster" driver.

A driving school will "add" more horsepower than any of these "lemming" mods. The only downside is that you can't brag about the school like you can about "catless" downpipes, cold air intakes and tunes.

you're right about drivers schools, but bad for the environment? get off your high horse. if you were so worried about it you'd be driving an electric car, or riding a bike to work. and illegal? not all states have communist emission testing like MD or VA.

ceb · 03-26-2011, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by skiernan36

you're right about drivers schools, but bad for the environment? get off your high horse. if you were so worried about it you'd be driving an electric car, or riding a bike to work. and illegal? not all states have communist emission testing like MD or VA.

The requirement for catalytic converters is a Federal requirement. A "catless" car emits 200 times more emissions than a catted car, so the OP's car will spew as many fumes as 200 cars. How the hell do you justify that?

Ohhh, but he gets 3 more horsepower.

This has nothing to do with being on a "high horse" but you do have to look at the ramifications of a proposed mod and weigh that against the advantages. Catless DPs down meet the smell test - literally.

grandmoff · 03-26-2011, 10:45 AM

doesn't iCarbon have catted as well for the environmentally conscious? those are the ones I would get if I got DPs.

BOOST3D · 03-26-2011, 11:01 AM

Just ignore ceb and move on with the discussion...

scott135i · 03-26-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BOOST3D

Just ignore ceb and move on with the discussion...

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Proper Motion LLC · 03-26-2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ceb

Why do this mod?

Any gains are going to be academic, it is bad for the environment, illegal and you'll have warranty and state emission problems.

Spend the money on a driving course. That'll make you a better, safer (and if it is what you're looking for) a "faster" driver.

A driving school will "add" more horsepower than any of these "lemming" mods. The only downside is that you can't brag about the school like you can about "catless" downpipes, cold air intakes and tunes.

e92sport · 03-26-2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceb

Why do this mod?

Any gains are going to be academic, it is bad for the environment, illegal and you'll have warranty and state emission problems.

Spend the money on a driving course. That'll make you a better, safer (and if it is what you're looking for) a "faster" driver.

A driving school will "add" more horsepower than any of these "lemming" mods. The only downside is that you can't brag about the school like you can about "catless" downpipes, cold air intakes and tunes.

Lmfao!!!!

forza1976 · 03-26-2011, 06:17 PM

Go with Ar Design. I was at his shop last week and was looking at the N55 Dp's that were being shipped out. Man the welds were amazing and you know the quality you are getting with Andrew and his products!

BMW_B3AST · 03-26-2011, 06:20 PM

thanks for all the suggestions guys! I can push my budget a little a guess and i am considering this:

http://gthaus.com/ehprice.php?selMak...&Submit=Submit

what do you guys think and i wouldn't be getting dp's if i get a full blown exhaust like that!

skim7x · 03-26-2011, 06:20 PM

Ceb speaks truth, but it's not necessarily what the audience on this board gives a shite about... sorry bro... the majority of ppl here don't care about abiding by the law or protecting the environment...

BUT, the people here do:
http://priuschat.com/

check 'em out!

ceb · 03-26-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skim7x

Ceb speaks truth, but it's not necessarily what the audience on this board gives a shite about... sorry bro... the majority of ppl here don't care about abiding by the law or protecting the environment...

BUT, the people here do:
http://priuschat.com/

check 'em out!

Of course. This group would rather spend thousands on useless mods they can brag about.

While I'm not a treehugger, the fact that somebody would spend that money for bragging rights while intentionally harming the rest of us is beyond me.

BcuzAWD · 03-26-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ceb

Of course. This group would rather spend thousands on useless mods they can brag about.

While I'm not a treehugger, the fact that somebody would spend that money for bragging rights while intentionally harming the rest of us is beyond me.

Treehugger you are

Sniz · 03-26-2011, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ceb

Of course. This group would rather spend thousands on useless mods they can brag about.

While I'm not a treehugger, the fact that somebody would spend that money for bragging rights while intentionally harming the rest of us is beyond me.

if you work for the NHTSA, worry about why the average driver sucks balls and causes accidents for no good reason. I would also like you to propose a statewide mandate for senior citizens to be tested to retain their drivers licenses every 3 years. That might actually help something. I would also like a statewide law keeping people from parking their asses in the fast lane and disrupting the flow of traffic.

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on to catless vehicles.

if people here are doing mods for bragging rights, well then you cant help them anyway.

I do mods because of the results I want to achieve and what is necessary to achieve them.

Go visit a local dragstrip for a night, you may have a heartattack at what those *ssh*les are up to.

Bullet · 03-26-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skiernan36

you're right about drivers schools, but bad for the environment? get off your high horse. if you were so worried about it you'd be driving an electric car, or riding a bike to work. and illegal? not all states have communist emission testing like MD or VA.

Seriously, you drive a 335xi man, if we were all really concerned about mother nature wed drive hybrids, or ride a bike. And this part of the fourm is FOR tuning, or "pointless mods" so why post here?

ceb · 03-26-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

if you work for the NHTSA, worry about why the average driver sucks balls and causes accidents for no good reason. I would also like you to propose a statewide mandate for senior citizens to be tested to retain their drivers licenses every 3 years. That might actually help something. I would also like a statewide law keeping people from parking their asses in the fast lane and disrupting the flow of traffic.

==============

on to catless vehicles.

if people here are doing mods for bragging rights, well then you cant help them anyway.

I do mods because of the results I want to achieve and what is necessary to achieve them.

Go visit a local dragstrip for a night, you may have a heartattack at what those *ssh*les are up to.

Who says I work for NHTSA?

The OP has no plan. He's only buying catless DPs because they're "cool."

Knock yourselves out. I'm out of this idiotic thread.

Black Gold · 03-26-2011, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skim7x

Ceb speaks truth, but it's not necessarily what the audience on this board gives a shite about... sorry bro... the majority of ppl here don't care about abiding by the law or protecting the environment...

BUT, the people here do:
http://priuschat.com/

check 'em out!

sorry to go OT, but what a joke ^^^^^^^^^^^

first of all, an electric car may not produce "emissions" itself, but where in the hell do you think electricity comes from, magic unicorns? It comes from coal and natural gas (cue the OH NOES, evil oil and gas companies). So while the prius owner may feel like an environmental badass when driving his car, the emissions do exist, just not on his watch. Not to mention the fact that where these batteries will be disposed of and what the rammifactions of that environmental mess will be has simply been ignored and pushed under the rug.

Get a clue

EDIT : and get off the high horse when talking about "obeying the law". When you never speed, EVER, then come and lecture people about abiding the law. Until then, you are just some guy abiding by the laws you want and ignorning the rest. No different than the rest of us.

Pepe_pr · 03-27-2011, 08:06 AM

Is This Thread Necessary?

CPWINCH · 03-27-2011, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceb

Why do this mod?

Any gains are going to be academic, it is bad for the environment, illegal and you'll have warranty and state emission problems.

Spend the money on a driving course. That'll make you a better, safer (and if it is what you're looking for) a "faster" driver.

A driving school will "add" more horsepower than any of these "lemming" mods. The only downside is that you can't brag about the school like you can about "catless" downpipes, cold air intakes and tunes.

you my friend must have a small penis

shockin330i · 03-27-2011, 03:26 PM

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