Can't turn on car's bluetooth - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

AudiA4 · 06-10-2005, 01:12 AM

Okay, so I'm trying to set up a bluetooth link between my Treo 650 (after downloading the latest CarKit update from Palm) and I can't figure out why my phone doesn't find the car. At first glance from the "Phone" menu in the car, I thought I had BT on. After carefully reviewing the Phone Manual (it isn't overly clear), I determined that in fact what I was seeing was the designation of the button to turn BT on. Problem? Nothing happens when I push this button.

What I see when I hit the phone button is a screen in which the upper menu says something like "Turn Bluetooth on to make a call." In the lower screen area directly above a middle button is displayed "BT-ON". The right side of the lower screen only displays the "return" key.

Obviously, the display "BT-ON" immediately above a button denotes that this is what you are to depress to turn it on. To support this, it appears in the manual that when BT is on, it should be displayed in the lower screen to the right side, directly adjacent to the "return" key.

I've pushed, prodded and poked this button for 30 minutes, and nothing happens. I've tried it with the car off, car on, radio off, and any number of combinations. And yes, I have the Premium package and yes, this button works under other menus.

Obviously, something is not working and this likely warrants a trip to the dealer. Any advice from anyone? Anyone else experience this problem?

Thanks for your help.

schneur · 06-10-2005, 12:35 PM

have you turned the phone's bluetooth on?

silverado · 06-10-2005, 12:53 PM

AudiA4,

I had a hard time setting up my Treo 650 with the car and I did not find any directions about how to do it (none of the car printed information talked about that). I think you have to put the car in discoverable mode (not called that) from the setup menu for the first time. I'll try to find the right menu for you in about an hour when I'm in my car again and I'll give you some instructions.

schneur · 06-10-2005, 01:07 PM

When i was at the dealership i tried with my treo 650 and no matter what button i pushed it would not find it, It did eventually find it for a few seconds somehow but then when i tried to pair it, it lost it.. i was attempting this in a Non Nav car with premium package, (which has bluetooth) anyone know the instructions for non nav, treo 650 - bluetooth setup...?

silverado · 06-10-2005, 01:15 PM

OK, here are the instructions to put the car in Connectable mode:

1) From the main menu (with the four main options showing), push down on the center button (the i option).
2) Choose Communications Settings
3) Move the selector to the top choice list in this window then choose "Bluetooth"
4) In the second choice list from the top choose "Phone"

Now in the main part of the window you should see: "Bluetooth connectable in this menu"

You are now ready to to start searching for the car from the phone. When you find the car and enter a passoword, just choose any password and make sure you enter the same one on the car and the phone.

Good luck!

BTW, as you can see, the difficulty has nothing to do with the Treo; it's just an obscure menu on the car.

scottz5 · 06-10-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by schneur

When i was at the dealership i tried with my treo 650 and no matter what button i pushed it would not find it, It did eventually find it for a few seconds somehow but then when i tried to pair it, it lost it.. i was attempting this in a Non Nav car with premium package, (which has bluetooth) anyone know the instructions for non nav, treo 650 - bluetooth setup...?

I also need this info for the non navi

AudiA4 · 06-10-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by silverado

OK, here are the instructions to put the car in Connectable mode:

1) From the main menu (with the four main options showing), push down on the center button (the i option).
2) Choose Communications Settings
3) Move the selector to the top choice list in this window then choose "Bluetooth"
4) In the second choice list from the top choose "Phone"

Now in the main part of the window you should see: "Bluetooth connectable in this menu"

You are now ready to to start searching for the car from the phone. When you find the car and enter a passoword, just choose any password and make sure you enter the same one on the car and the phone.

Good luck!

BTW, as you can see, the difficulty has nothing to do with the Treo; it's just an obscure menu on the car.

Wow...thanks for all of the feedback, but let me be clear: I do not have iDrive, but have the Premium package with Bluetooth. When following the instructions from the Phone Manual in the car, there appears to be one button to push to turn BT on, and when I attempt to do this, nothing happens. It's as if the button itself doesn't work (though it does on other screens/situations).

So...unless there's another menu or something I should be turning on first for "discoverable" mode - and I didn't find anything in the manual on this - then something about this mode in my car is not working properly.

silverado · 06-10-2005, 02:43 PM

Oops... didn't realize you didn't have iDrive

On iDrive, there is a phone menu that behaved sort of like what you described and I spent a lot of time there thinking that's where I should do it. This is the place to be AFTER you have paired your phone with the car. BT might be on, but it is not discoverable; it is on to communicate with already paired devices.

I would look for some setup menu that has to do with bluetooth, not the phone menu.

Matsola · 06-15-2005, 08:10 PM

So can the Treo work perfectly well with the BMW?

Matsola · 06-15-2005, 08:12 PM

....so is the Treo 650 completely compatible with the the BMW 330i?

pharding · 06-15-2005, 09:26 PM

Is the Treo on the BMW aaproved list? I do not believe that it is.

jiggax23 · 06-15-2005, 10:45 PM

if u press the button and nothing happens, im thinking bmw didnt activate ur bluetooth setting. thats what happened to me, took it to them, they activated it, and worked perfectly fine

E90Fleet · 06-18-2005, 06:29 AM

Just found out BMW knows about this problem with non-idrive cars, its a small software glitch

Tell your dealer to look at "Service Measure B84 213 05 "

It says dealer must "Encode the complete car with CIP16.1 or later"

AudiA4 · 06-18-2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90Fleet

Just found out BMW knows about this problem with non-idrive cars, its a small software glitch

Tell your dealer to look at "Service Measure B84 213 05 "

It says dealer must "Encode the complete car with CIP16.1 or later"

Wow...thanks so much for the help on this! I guess I can have this serviced alongside my non-functioning A/C (see other post). Sorry for the delay in my response, I've been out for a week on vacation.

E90Fleet · 06-19-2005, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AudiA4

Wow...thanks so much for the help on this! I guess I can have this serviced alongside my non-functioning A/C (see other post). Sorry for the delay in my response, I've been out for a week on vacation.

Keep us updated on both issues

volsfan0911 · 06-19-2005, 10:54 AM

Has anyone here successfully paired the Treo 650 w/ the BMW? Palm says that the BMW kit is not approved and you will have intermittent connections periods, etc. BMW doesn't list it as an approved phone. Currently have a T600 but am considering moving up to both the Bimmer and a 650. If I can't use the 650 w/ a 330i non-IDrive, then that's going to be a problem.

AudiA4 · 06-19-2005, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volsfan0911

Has anyone here successfully paired the Treo 650 w/ the BMW? Palm says that the BMW kit is not approved and you will have intermittent connections periods, etc. BMW doesn't list it as an approved phone. Currently have a T600 but am considering moving up to both the Bimmer and a 650. If I can't use the 650 w/ a 330i non-IDrive, then that's going to be a problem.

Apparently, Palm just released a firmware update for Sprint's Treo 650 which adds full support for BMW bluetooth (there is a recent post on this). I use Cingular, so hopefully they'll follow shortly thereafter.

volsfan0911 · 06-19-2005, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AudiA4

Apparently, Palm just released a firmware update for Sprint's Treo 650 which adds full support for BMW bluetooth (there is a recent post on this). I use Cingular, so hopefully they'll follow shortly thereafter.

Excellent - I'm on Verizon currently (for some reason, Sprint sucks here in N. Jersey - works great everywhere else

) so if they've got the fix in for Sprint - I can either go back to them (moving soon I hope) or wait for Verizon to follow suit and patch up their Treos. Both Sprint & Verizon need to be taken out behind the woodshed anyway for their pathetic lack of BT offerings and support. Puhlease - CDMA generally blows away GSM in reception and service here in the States (in my experience at least) but lag so far behind the GSM guys in features and hardware.

Tor330 · 10-26-2005, 04:43 PM

did you ever get the cingular 650 to work. I can pair but not use the address book.... :mad:

Jon_Hanson · 11-18-2005, 12:22 PM

I took a test drive in a 330 with the Premium Package (Bluetooth included) and initially had some problems getting my unlocked Treo 650 to see the car but eventually they did and paired just fine. My sales advisor even showed me how to use the voice activation to dial phone numbers. The only numbers that will transfer to the car are the speed dial ones; your address book will not transfer.

06-10-2005, 01:12 AM	#1
AudiA4 Private First Class Drives: '06 330i 6M, Sport Join Date: May 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR USA Posts: 127 iTrader: (0)	Can't turn on car's bluetooth Okay, so I'm trying to set up a bluetooth link between my Treo 650 (after downloading the latest CarKit update from Palm) and I can't figure out why my phone doesn't find the car. At first glance from the "Phone" menu in the car, I thought I had BT on. After carefully reviewing the Phone Manual (it isn't overly clear), I determined that in fact what I was seeing was the designation of the button to turn BT on. Problem? Nothing happens when I push this button. What I see when I hit the phone button is a screen in which the upper menu says something like "Turn Bluetooth on to make a call." In the lower screen area directly above a middle button is displayed "BT-ON". The right side of the lower screen only displays the "return" key. Obviously, the display "BT-ON" immediately above a button denotes that this is what you are to depress to turn it on. To support this, it appears in the manual that when BT is on, it should be displayed in the lower screen to the right side, directly adjacent to the "return" key. I've pushed, prodded and poked this button for 30 minutes, and nothing happens. I've tried it with the car off, car on, radio off, and any number of combinations. And yes, I have the Premium package and yes, this button works under other menus. Obviously, something is not working and this likely warrants a trip to the dealer. Any advice from anyone? Anyone else experience this problem? Thanks for your help.

06-15-2005, 09:26 PM	#11
pharding Second Lieutenant Drives: 08 550 Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 291 iTrader: (0)	Is the Treo on the BMW aaproved list? I do not believe that it is. __________________ 08 550i Carbon Black/Black/Dark Poplar, Anthracite Headliner, Sport, Sprt Trans, CWP, Nav, HUD, Logic 7, Sirius, HD Radio, SF RS, CAS, AS, Euro Del 06 330i Silver/Black/Dark Poplar, SP, PP, Nav, Logic 7, Euro Del 04 545i Euro Del - Retired 01 530i Euro Del - Retired

10-26-2005, 04:43 PM	#19
Tor330 New Member Drives: 2006_330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 4 iTrader: (0)	Cingular 650 and E90 - 330i without Idrive did you ever get the cingular 650 to work. I can pair but not use the address book.... :mad:

06-10-2005, 12:35 PM	#2
schneur Member Drives: 325i 2006 Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	have you turned the phone's bluetooth on?

06-10-2005, 12:53 PM	#3
silverado Captain Drives: E90 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	AudiA4, I had a hard time setting up my Treo 650 with the car and I did not find any directions about how to do it (none of the car printed information talked about that). I think you have to put the car in discoverable mode (not called that) from the setup menu for the first time. I'll try to find the right menu for you in about an hour when I'm in my car again and I'll give you some instructions.

06-10-2005, 01:07 PM	#4
schneur Member Drives: 325i 2006 Join Date: May 2005 Location: NY Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	When i was at the dealership i tried with my treo 650 and no matter what button i pushed it would not find it, It did eventually find it for a few seconds somehow but then when i tried to pair it, it lost it.. i was attempting this in a Non Nav car with premium package, (which has bluetooth) anyone know the instructions for non nav, treo 650 - bluetooth setup...?

06-10-2005, 01:15 PM	#5
silverado Captain Drives: E90 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	OK, here are the instructions to put the car in Connectable mode: 1) From the main menu (with the four main options showing), push down on the center button (the i option). 2) Choose Communications Settings 3) Move the selector to the top choice list in this window then choose "Bluetooth" 4) In the second choice list from the top choose "Phone" Now in the main part of the window you should see: "Bluetooth connectable in this menu" You are now ready to to start searching for the car from the phone. When you find the car and enter a passoword, just choose any password and make sure you enter the same one on the car and the phone. Good luck! BTW, as you can see, the difficulty has nothing to do with the Treo; it's just an obscure menu on the car.

06-10-2005, 02:43 PM	#8
silverado Captain Drives: E90 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 589 iTrader: (0)	Oops... didn't realize you didn't have iDrive On iDrive, there is a phone menu that behaved sort of like what you described and I spent a lot of time there thinking that's where I should do it. This is the place to be AFTER you have paired your phone with the car. BT might be on, but it is not discoverable; it is on to communicate with already paired devices. I would look for some setup menu that has to do with bluetooth, not the phone menu.

06-15-2005, 08:10 PM	#9
Matsola Member Drives: e90 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington dc Posts: 9 iTrader: (0)	So can the Treo work perfectly well with the BMW?

06-15-2005, 08:12 PM	#10
Matsola Member Drives: e90 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington dc Posts: 9 iTrader: (0)	....so is the Treo 650 completely compatible with the the BMW 330i?

06-15-2005, 10:45 PM	#12
jiggax23 Second Lieutenant Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: so. california Posts: 169 iTrader: (0)	if u press the button and nothing happens, im thinking bmw didnt activate ur bluetooth setting. thats what happened to me, took it to them, they activated it, and worked perfectly fine

06-18-2005, 06:29 AM	#13
E90Fleet Major General Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 6,515 iTrader: (0)	Just found out BMW knows about this problem with non-idrive cars, its a small software glitch Tell your dealer to look at "Service Measure B84 213 05 " It says dealer must "Encode the complete car with CIP16.1 or later"

06-19-2005, 10:54 AM	#16
volsfan0911 Private Drives: 2004 Accord V-6 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 50 iTrader: (0)	Has anyone here successfully paired the Treo 650 w/ the BMW? Palm says that the BMW kit is not approved and you will have intermittent connections periods, etc. BMW doesn't list it as an approved phone. Currently have a T600 but am considering moving up to both the Bimmer and a 650. If I can't use the 650 w/ a 330i non-IDrive, then that's going to be a problem.

11-18-2005, 12:22 PM	#20
Jon_Hanson Private First Class Drives: Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 98 iTrader: (0) View Jon_Hanson's Garage	I took a test drive in a 330 with the Premium Package (Bluetooth included) and initially had some problems getting my unlocked Treo 650 to see the car but eventually they did and paired just fine. My sales advisor even showed me how to use the voice activation to dial phone numbers. The only numbers that will transfer to the car are the speed dial ones; your address book will not transfer.