[JDane07]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

AA stage 2 or stage 3 tune?

Stage II. Pedro at AA is currently looking at my tune to see if anything needs to be updated.


And no stock baseline unfortunately :/

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by JDane07

Stage II. Pedro at AA is currently looking at my tune to see if anything needs to be updated.


And no stock baseline unfortunately :/

how many times does the CEL gong while you drive?

[JDane07]

Originally Posted by Emozoo

how many times does the CEL gong while you drive?

Never? It's the offroad tune.
Now is that the same thing as stage III?

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by JDane07

Never? It's the offroad tune.
Now is that the same thing as stage III?

Ahh, if it's the offroad tune, then it's the Stage 3/header tune.

[JDane07]

Ahh damn. Well they're still looking at my ECU, seeing if there's anything they can adjust.

[631twentyeighteye]

I thought the numbers seemed about right for an auto.

[JDane07]

Do you guys think a dynojet would read much higher? And which dyno would you say is more accurate? I'm honestly not concerned with numbers all that much, just curious.

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by JDane07

Do you guys think a dynojet would read much higher? And which dyno would you say is more accurate? I'm honestly not concerned with numbers all that much, just curious.

an n51 with AA tune put down 220/207 on a mustang dynojet. I put down a little more than that with my n52: 3 stage, catless headers, AA tune and an injen intake at 223/207.

Both of our's are 6MT's which a little less drivetrain loss. I think you're in the correct ballpark. every dyno reads differently regardless of brand, so there's no sense in comparing them. Dyno's are best used before and after mods are installed to see if you are generating any difference.

Dynojet's typically read 10-15% higher than mustang dyno's.

[hassmaschine]

Yeah, what really matters is the delta, thats why getting a baseline is a good idea.

[Taskmaster]

So...any follow up dyno of that racecar?

[nycbr]

posts #208 and #209 makes an interesting comparison of the N51 to the N52 - I guess that small difference in the compression ratio does not make that much of a difference

[InControl]

Originally Posted by nycbr

posts #208 and #209 makes an interesting comparison of the N51 to the N52 - I guess that small difference in the compression ratio does not make that much of a difference

the n51 dyno is w/o header. I think the n52 (see posts 208 and 209) would crank out an extra 20whp if tested on the same dyno and conditions.

[hassmaschine]

I'd like to see that 250whp AA dyno. I'm interested in the VE shift towards 7500rpm.

[b-man]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Well, if it were a dynojet, I'd expect something in the 230whp range or so, with both being similar in power. The N51 and 52 should be about equal when it's all said and done, I can't imagine a small drop in compression changing power by a lot.

I want to agree since I own a n51 but I'd like to see a better comparison.

Not the right thread for this, but I wonder if n51 can handle higher boosts from the ess sc since it has a lower compression. But then again, the change in boost will be minimal

[nycbr]

Originally Posted by InControl

the n51 dyno is w/o header. I think the n52 (see posts 208 and 209) would crank out an extra 20whp if tested on the same dyno and conditions.

I think it was the same dyno on the same day,and the N52 had headers. So if the N51 had headers it would have at least equaled the N52.

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by nycbr

I think it was the same dyno on the same day,and the N52 had headers. So if the N51 had headers it would have at least equaled the N52.

he's right the n52 had more mods including headers. The N51 doesn't.

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by Emozoo

he's right the n52 had more mods including headers. The N51 doesn't.

Headers as in, stock header design(collectors) but with the catalysts cut out. They're the mapleridge headers/the design turner(i think?) used on their racecar. It can't be equated to AA or supersprints equal lengths.

That being said, for the price they provided gains across the range, peak being just shy of 10HP if i recall(dyno's on 1 series board).

same dyno, same day, Same tuner, same transmission. The difference is Chrisar's car MAY have had custom dyno tuning done as his car was owned by VAC previously. Correct me if i'm wrong on that one.

edit: managed to find a picture of mine. They're ceramic coated as well.


edit again: also had an Injen intake versus his stock intake. I've since dropped the injen and put my stock box back on. I'm planning on getting another dyno at the same dyno i used for all my other pulls(other than the one above).

[Blindside_137]

My local shop just did a 128 with AA headers and tune, magnaflow exhaust, and 3 stage intake manifold.

Holy crap, I want.

[631twentyeighteye]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

That's the AA tuned 128i race car. Any other details? Did you dyno yours?

I'm on my phone and zooming in, it's gets blurry quick. 245whp?

Looks to be right about that. Very impressive, I've contacted AA about a custom tune in the spring

[hassmaschine]

Looks like 250whp is definitely doable.

So, who's going to be first to do cams?

[justpete]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Looks like 250whp is definitely doable.

So, who's going to be first to do cams?

Working on it...

[Victor328i]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

That's the AA tuned 128i race car. Any other details? Did you dyno yours?

I'm on my phone and zooming in, it's gets blurry quick. 245whp?

I think it's 246.87...ran a filter on it to sharpen it up