E90Fleet..what's the N51 all about?

dmichael · 03-26-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by voltron1011

No, you live in one of the 7 SULEV states, so you will be getting the N51... There's really no discernible difference between the two engines.. They'll both drive identically.

I live in MA, one of the 7 SULEV states I believe, and I got an N52 (VA33) in my 328i sedan, I ordered my car but did not specify any engine type. Just wondering why engines are allocated randomly?

SULEV has longer warranties on certain emmissions related parts, I think I remember reading, 80k miles, no time limits, Covers things like cat converters (both of them).

voltron1011 · 03-26-2008, 12:00 PM

All also recently read that you want to avoid SULEV engines if you plan on keeping your car for a long time... Reason is because the SULEV has different fuel pumps, senders, and sensors (one piece design) that will cost an 'arm and a leg' if they ever go bad...

Lassaxi · 03-26-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by voltron1011

All also recently read that you want to avoid SULEV engines if you plan on keeping your car for a long time... Reason is because the SULEV has different fuel pumps, senders, and sensors (one piece design) that will cost an 'arm and a leg' if they ever go bad...

Compared to what? The cheapo fuel pumps, senders and sensors that come with the N52? If your fuel pump goes after warranty, it's not exactly going to be cheap either way.

stugotz · 04-01-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1WickedE90

Not necessarily true. If you order your car, you can specify to your CA whether you want SULEV or ULEV. If you don't, you will get either a N51 or N52KP.

I was pretty specific when I ordered mine. I told my CA that I wanted my E90 built in Germany and with an N52KP engine (ULEV). He just clicked off the selections on his ordering screen and said, "No problem, done."

The N51 will have a few less ponies, due to the extra emission control parts - doubtful that the "butt" dyno could feel it.

yea, you're right. i made sure i requested the non-sulev engine as well. VIN # checks out already on the productions site.

hasrice · 04-02-2009, 12:50 AM

Sometimes I just wish I spent the extra 10g's and got the 335 and be done with it. n52/1's get no love.

STE92VE · 04-02-2009, 07:27 AM

Well, glad to see this thread is still alive. I'm happy to report that our new E90 will have the N52. Even though I am quite satisfied with the N51, but given the fact that the E90 will have Step and xDrive, I'm overjoyed that the N52 will be under the hood. I didn't request it since I'm in a CARB state and was just resigned to the fact that I would be getting another N51.

LEDZEP · 04-02-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

Well, glad to see this thread is still alive. I'm happy to report that our new E90 will have the N52. Even though I am quite satisfied with the N51, but given the fact that the E90 will have Step and xDrive, I'm overjoyed that the N52 will be under the hood. I didn't request it since I'm in a CARB state and was just resigned to the fact that I would be getting another N51.

Wow, was odd to see this thread surface. E90Fleet has been gone for over a year...

And yes Steve, we know you live in a CARB state... you can't go two blocks without passing a bagel shop.

STE92VE · 04-02-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Wow, was odd to see this thread surface. E90Fleet has been gone for over a year...

And yes Steve, we know you live in a CARB state... you can't go two blocks without passing a bagel shop.

Glad to see you haven't lost your edge either....

ejazbmw · 04-02-2009, 02:42 PM

ahh the good times when E90post was actually useful lol

canucklion · 04-02-2009, 02:44 PM

nice to see LED is still active

bsamoul · 04-02-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

ahh the good times when E90post was actually useful lol

+1

STE92VE · 04-02-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ejazbmw

ahh the good times when E90post was actually useful lol

+1

Hardly recognize the place any more....

STE92VE · 04-02-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

nice to see LED is still active

Yeah, we roll him out from time to time when the weather permits....

JackMac · 04-02-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

Well, glad to see this thread is still alive. I'm happy to report that our new E90 will have the N52. Even though I am quite satisfied with the N51, but given the fact that the E90 will have Step and xDrive, I'm overjoyed that the N52 will be under the hood. I didn't request it since I'm in a CARB state and was just resigned to the fact that I would be getting another N51.

Sure you get the N52, but BMW keeps the clown nose and ash tray at the factory this time.

We know what they kept there last time >cough< springs >cough<

STE92VE · 04-02-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JackMac

Sure you get the N52, but BMW keeps the clown nose and ash tray at the factory this time. (We know what they kept there last time

)

Don't know about the clown nose....on vehicles w/o ZPP, the rearview mirror dimmer would still be a knob to adjust manually.

JackMac · 04-02-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

nice to see LED is still active

He pops up every Spring, just need to water regularly.

Great thread by the way. We all miss E90Fleet...

demosthenes · 04-03-2009, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by STE92VE

Well, glad to see this thread is still alive. I'm happy to report that our new E90 will have the N52. Even though I am quite satisfied with the N51, but given the fact that the E90 will have Step and xDrive, I'm overjoyed that the N52 will be under the hood. I didn't request it since I'm in a CARB state and was just resigned to the fact that I would be getting another N51.

It will be interesting to see if you notice any differences you can attribute to the engines between your old E92 with N51 and 6MT and the new E90 with N52 and 6AT. The tranny and gear ratio differences might make it hard to determine if the engines perform differently. Could you report back to us and let us know? Thanks.

stressdoc · 04-03-2009, 08:51 AM

Good memories...

SteveMD · 04-03-2009, 10:30 AM

What happened to Fleet? Anyone know?

JackMac · 04-03-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMD

What happened to Fleet? Anyone know?

Stats show: Last Activity: 08-19-2008 04:35 PM

You can try a PM, it may get to his email.

SteveMD · 04-03-2009, 10:43 AM

He was trying to get a job with BMW. Maybe he got it and is forbidden from posting. Maybe e is posting under another ID??

neilyo · 07-18-2012, 07:52 PM

Hey Guys,

Coming off from S4, I have 2011 328i xDrive Auto. Is this N52 or N51? Is there any chip mods for this model.

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STE92VE STEVIL Empire 213 Rep 6,297 Posts Drives: Fast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	Well, glad to see this thread is still alive. I'm happy to report that our new E90 will have the N52. Even though I am quite satisfied with the N51, but given the fact that the E90 will have Step and xDrive, I'm overjoyed that the N52 will be under the hood. I didn't request it since I'm in a CARB state and was just resigned to the fact that I would be getting another N51. __________________ 2007 E92 328i 6MT-Space Gray/Black Dakota/Gray Poplar w/heated seats-PCD 4/27/07 (SOLD) 2009 E90 328i xDrive 6AT-Space Gray/Oyster Dakota/Dark Burl Walnut w/ZPP,ZCW,Xenons-ED 4/17/09 - Redelivery 5/30/09 (SOLD) 2014 E84 xDrive28i 8AT-Alpine White/Black Nevada/Silver Matte w/ZMV,ZLP,494 - DD 3/14/14 (SOLD)
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