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      03-27-2013, 02:27 PM   #1
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BMW 328d @ NYIAS...48mpg

"The last 3-Series with a diesel engine was the 335d, which was an insanely overpowered and remarkably fuel-efficient six-cylinder turbo engine."

BMW is bringing the 328d to the USA and unveiling it at the New York International Auto Show. A bit down on power, 180 horses and 280ftlbs of torque, although diesel 4 bangers don't feel like 4 bangers.

The 8 speed transmission and .26 drag coefficient (compared to our .29) make for 48mpg. Not bad at all!

http://jalopnik.com/2014-bmw-328d-28...s-pe-461114336
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      03-27-2013, 02:39 PM   #2
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Oh, what would I give to have an 8 speed in our cars!
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Passing on this, waiting for the 535d. I understand why the 328(320)d is here, but meh...not excited.
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Our "problem" with this 328d is that we are hopelessly spoiled by the 335d. Unless all we care about is better mileage.
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My Realtor plans on grabbing the 328d Touring when it comes in August.

I am more than happy to wait for a gently loved 535d in a couple of years.

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Oh, what would I give to have an 8 speed in our cars!
No kidding. It would be amazing!!!
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Passing on this, waiting for the 535d. I understand why the 328(320)d is here, but meh...not excited.
I'm there with you. I'll of course test drive the 328d(err..320d) because I may be in the market to jump to VW (Passat TDi??) when the time comes. If the 5-er comes in RWD than I'll have to seriously consider it. If it comes in AWD only then I'll have to pass. I will never own an X-Drive.
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Passing on this, waiting for the 535d. I understand why the 328(320)d is here, but meh...not excited.
That was my original plan, but since 535D is getting 255HP 6cyl engine instead of 313HP I'll pass
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My Realtor plans on grabbing the 328d Touring when it comes in August.

I am more than happy to wait for a gently loved 535d in a couple of years.
I'm right there with you on the 5er later on. Will a JBD work with that new engine?
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Love how they said the 335d was "insanely overpowered."
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I would love for them to stop dicking around and make a 335d in a 6spd manual.
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I would love for them to stop dicking around and make a 335d in a 6spd manual.

The possibility of seeing that combo stateside is virtually nil.
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I would love for them to stop dicking around and make a 335d in a 6spd manual.

The possibility of seeing that combo stateside is virtually nil.
Is it even available in Europe?
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I'm right there with you on the 5er later on. Will a JBD work with that new engine?
That's going to depend on whether or not it's still the M57, I think. My guess, though, is that it won't, and that Terry will probably not take the time to make an alternative for the 328d.
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The silver lining in the 328d news in this is that as long as one can not buy a new 3 Series with a 3.0 diesel, the resale value of E90 diesels should be strong. -Mike
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I'm there with you. I'll of course test drive the 328d(err..320d) because I may be in the market to jump to VW (Passat TDi??) when the time comes. If the 5-er comes in RWD than I'll have to seriously consider it. If it comes in AWD only then I'll have to pass. I will never own an X-Drive.
535d is coming in rwd and X-drive variants. I don't personally go as far as to say I'll "never" own an X-Drive vehicle, but I certainly don't have any interest in one.
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I would love for them to stop dicking around and make a 335d in a 6spd manual.
Never going to happen. The 335d manual does not exist in any country. The cost of the clutch and trans strong enough to be able to take the torque shock of the 335d would add way too much to the cost of the car. Besides the fact that it seems as the 335d will never be built again.

If you want performance, it will be the 335. If you want economy it will be the 328d. The 328d could be built with a manual, but it probably won't be. If you haven't noticed the demand for manuals is continually dropping as is the models that have them.
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Well I guess BMW did improve the DEF refill process.
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Oh, what would I give to have an 8 speed in our cars!
That might be nice for city driving and city mileage, i really like our 6 speed and I think its a perfect match. You really can't gear our car lower on the highway.

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Love how they said the 335d was "insanely overpowered."
Yeah, that line made me smile! I love reading reviews about our car and how there never is a bad thing to say about it. Just how much people love it.

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The silver lining in the 328d news in this is that as long as one can not buy a new 3 Series with a 3.0 diesel, the resale value of E90 diesels should be strong. -Mike
Our resale value is already doing pretty damn good!
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Re:

A bit down on power, 180 horses and 280ftlbs of torque,


Years ago I owned an '85 535i with a complete Zender kit, Bilstein sport kit,
Dinan chip, etc. From the factory, the car had 182 hp and 213 lb ft of torque
and weighed ~3200 lbs. The E28 was smaller than my E90. That car went
like stink!


I hardly feel that the 2.0L will be "down on power" with 25% more than the old
E28 - and 48 MPG to boot!


We'll be picking up a 328d Touring in a couple of years...



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Dzlmoose, that urea location on the 328d should have just been common sense on our cars as well. It's as if the location of it was an afterthought on the 335d and then someone came out with the "awesome" location of it.
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Dzlmoose, that urea location on the 328d should have just been common sense on our cars as well. It's as if the location of it was an afterthought on the 335d and then someone came out with the "awesome" location of it.
Not sure it was an afterthought per se, but very likely a requirement that came late in the design cycle. Sounds like system designs from my distant past.
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