New LSD Option for our 335d?

GreekboyD · 03-01-2014, 06:23 AM

There is a forum member in that topic who can give MFactory his 335d differential for as long as they need it. Looks like another LSD option might be coming our way:

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaknown

"Trying to contact you Stephen, should be able to loan you a 335d diff for as long as you need it."

iaknown · 03-05-2014, 12:23 PM

Yup, that's me. I am sending Stephen my spare diff this week so MFactory can develop a lsd for our cars. So we should have another option in a few months....and if I am correct it will be a complete drop in package.

GreekboyD · 03-05-2014, 01:44 PM

Good stuff man! Keep this thread updated if you don't mind.

iaknown · 03-05-2014, 09:07 PM

Will do.

dixy2k · 03-06-2014, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaknown

Yup, that's me. I am sending Stephen my spare diff this week so MFactory can develop a lsd for our cars. So we should have another option in a few months....and if I am correct it will be a complete drop in package.

complete drop in? as in no welding required?

MFactory · 03-06-2014, 09:09 AM

Yes, complete drop in (LSD + Final Drive), so no machining etc required

taibanl · 03-06-2014, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFactory

Yes, complete drop in (LSD + Final Drive), so no machining etc required

Certainly interesting, though I know your competitor kept the OEM final drive due to its robustness. Can you comment?

MFactory · 03-06-2014, 12:40 PM

By competitor, if you mean Wavetrac, they use the oem final drive because they don't have the in-house capability to make a new ring gear + pinion (infact, they don't have any in-house capability to make any of their LSD's either. For them to get a final drive made, it would cost them far more than the $600-700 they are selling their "install kit" for)

If you mean Quaife, they already have their own final drives available, but are expensive because they can only make "billet" components which is very inefficient.

The reason why we are able to make and offer our products at lower cost is because all of our products are "forged". Initial expenses (i.e tooling) is high, but once that's out of the way, the "per piece" cost is low.

crazyinp · 03-06-2014, 02:54 PM

subscribed

can't wait to see what you can offer

Nushibo · 03-07-2014, 02:32 AM

Waiting patiently...

Puerto Rican 335d · 03-07-2014, 05:32 AM

Oh hell Mfactory Im now interested also and to be honest I was one for staying away from this issue, PLEASE send more info so that I can see your product and have it available for my mechanic to view and judge it, he has been in the racing industry here in Puerto Rico and is a well known BMW mechanic in the island. Gracias!!!

Puerto Rican 335d · 03-07-2014, 05:36 AM

BTW i sent him your link so he can see you guys

iaknown · 01-21-2015, 09:44 AM

Just a heads up guys......Mfactory finally has the diffs for our cars done. Mine is currently on its way

So now we all have another option and the price is better than the competition as far as a ready-to-go diff is concerned. I will try to get Mfactory to chime in here on this.

MFactory · 01-21-2015, 10:00 AM

Yup, it's been a long time coming, but the 335d fitments are finally ready (actually, the LSD has been ready for a while now; we just had to get the machining of the ring gear/spacer sorted)

We have a core in stock for anyone who wants one (first-come-first-served). However, as this isn't a sales thread, I can't post pricing up, so you'll need to view our sales threads in the vendor section, or send me a PM

Crawler · 01-21-2015, 11:51 AM

MFactory,

Thanks for bringing this to us. I hate traction control!!! So to be clear, you don't even bother cutting the OEM ring gear off of the stock diff from the customer? You just install your own forged/machined ring gear onto your LSD and install it into the customers "pumpkin"? Am I correct to assume you've beat the crap out of both your crown gears and LSD's during development. I plan on keeping this car for 15+ more years. Do your diff units allow the use of OEM differential lubricant and what is your recommended service interval?

Thanks again. As you are only an hour up the road, convenient drop off and pick up is a big plus vs shipping across the country.

Cheers,

J

MFactory · 01-21-2015, 12:24 PM

We decided not to make the 2.81 Ring & Pinions yet, as we need to make a large quantity of them but there hasn't been (so far) a large enough market to justify this. At the moment, we only made the 3.08 and 2.56 Ring & Pinions.

For the 335d, we have to machine the oem cores like everyone else. For the LSD, we have no doubt they can hold up to any abuse you can throw at them.

No special fluid is required for a Helical LSD; just the oem recommended fluid and service interval.

TorqueAddict · 01-21-2015, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFactory

We decided not to make the 2.81 Ring & Pinions yet, as we need to make a large quantity of them but there hasn't been (so far) a large enough market to justify this. At the moment, we only made the 3.08 and 2.56 Ring & Pinions.

Well, if you can initiate a group buy, i am pretty sure lots of guys here would show interest. (Me being one of them)

MFactory · 01-21-2015, 12:51 PM

We have the designs all ready for them, but want to see how the DCT R&P's go first as we are in a similar situation (over 30+ interested, but only 5 from the list actually handed over money when they were ready). With the 3.08's, those aren't an issue.

Besides, for the time being, we do have machined oem R&P's in stock.

Puerto Rican 335d · 01-21-2015, 01:01 PM

Mfactory never got info about you but still in the game whats the price range and BTW send more info to me so i can discuss this,Also you have or plan to have for the 335i's there are way to many on the island and i got a rep for you on this

iaknown · 01-21-2015, 01:10 PM

I was relayed the following

:

Price is $2349.95 inc shipping (+$100 to Canada) and refundable core fee ($500 refundable after we receive the old core back).

TorqueAddict · 01-21-2015, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iaknown

I was relayed the following

:

Price is $2349.95 inc shipping (+$100 to Canada) and refundable core fee ($500 refundable after we receive the old core back).

ya man, but the hassle involved in shipping cores back and forth is lot. (Shipping fee + Downtime). It would be so convenient if we can have a full drop in LSD.

iaknown · 01-21-2015, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorqueAddict

ya man, but the hassle involved in shipping cores back and forth is lot. Shipping fee + Downtime). It would be so convenient if we can have a full drop in LSD.

No downtime. This is a full drop-in LSD. You buy one ready to go and send yours back after the installation. Not sure what other options there are....

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iaknown Banned 425 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 335D Join Date: May 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Yup, that's me. I am sending Stephen my spare diff this week so MFactory can develop a lsd for our cars. So we should have another option in a few months....and if I am correct it will be a complete drop in package.
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GreekboyD Brigadier General 411 Rep 3,049 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335d [8.00]	Good stuff man! Keep this thread updated if you don't mind.
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iaknown Banned 425 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 335D Join Date: May 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Will do.
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03-06-2014, 09:09 AM	#28
MFactory Major 581 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Dimas, CA iTrader: (2)	Yes, complete drop in (LSD + Final Drive), so no machining etc required
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03-06-2014, 12:40 PM	#30
MFactory Major 581 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Dimas, CA iTrader: (2)	By competitor, if you mean Wavetrac, they use the oem final drive because they don't have the in-house capability to make a new ring gear + pinion (infact, they don't have any in-house capability to make any of their LSD's either. For them to get a final drive made, it would cost them far more than the $600-700 they are selling their "install kit" for) If you mean Quaife, they already have their own final drives available, but are expensive because they can only make "billet" components which is very inefficient. The reason why we are able to make and offer our products at lower cost is because all of our products are "forged". Initial expenses (i.e tooling) is high, but once that's out of the way, the "per piece" cost is low. Last edited by MFactory; 03-06-2014 at 12:45 PM..
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crazyinp Major 297 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (5) Garage List 2022 BMW X5e [0.00] 2023 BMW X5M [0.00]	subscribed can't wait to see what you can offer
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03-07-2014, 02:32 AM	#32
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03-07-2014, 05:32 AM	#33
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Oh hell Mfactory Im now interested also and to be honest I was one for staying away from this issue, PLEASE send more info so that I can see your product and have it available for my mechanic to view and judge it, he has been in the racing industry here in Puerto Rico and is a well known BMW mechanic in the island. Gracias!!! __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	BTW i sent him your link so he can see you guys __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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01-21-2015, 09:44 AM	#35
iaknown Banned 425 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 335D Join Date: May 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Just a heads up guys......Mfactory finally has the diffs for our cars done. Mine is currently on its way So now we all have another option and the price is better than the competition as far as a ready-to-go diff is concerned. I will try to get Mfactory to chime in here on this.
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01-21-2015, 10:00 AM	#36
MFactory Major 581 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Dimas, CA iTrader: (2)	Yup, it's been a long time coming, but the 335d fitments are finally ready (actually, the LSD has been ready for a while now; we just had to get the machining of the ring gear/spacer sorted) We have a core in stock for anyone who wants one (first-come-first-served). However, as this isn't a sales thread, I can't post pricing up, so you'll need to view our sales threads in the vendor section, or send me a PM
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01-21-2015, 11:51 AM	#37
Crawler Private 3 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Sandy Eggo CA iTrader: (0)	Options are good MFactory, Thanks for bringing this to us. I hate traction control!!! So to be clear, you don't even bother cutting the OEM ring gear off of the stock diff from the customer? You just install your own forged/machined ring gear onto your LSD and install it into the customers "pumpkin"? Am I correct to assume you've beat the crap out of both your crown gears and LSD's during development. I plan on keeping this car for 15+ more years. Do your diff units allow the use of OEM differential lubricant and what is your recommended service interval? Thanks again. As you are only an hour up the road, convenient drop off and pick up is a big plus vs shipping across the country. Cheers, J
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01-21-2015, 12:24 PM	#38
MFactory Major 581 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Dimas, CA iTrader: (2)	We decided not to make the 2.81 Ring & Pinions yet, as we need to make a large quantity of them but there hasn't been (so far) a large enough market to justify this. At the moment, we only made the 3.08 and 2.56 Ring & Pinions. For the 335d, we have to machine the oem cores like everyone else. For the LSD, we have no doubt they can hold up to any abuse you can throw at them. No special fluid is required for a Helical LSD; just the oem recommended fluid and service interval.
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01-21-2015, 12:51 PM	#40
MFactory Major 581 Rep 1,421 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: San Dimas, CA iTrader: (2)	We have the designs all ready for them, but want to see how the DCT R&P's go first as we are in a similar situation (over 30+ interested, but only 5 from the list actually handed over money when they were ready). With the 3.08's, those aren't an issue. Besides, for the time being, we do have machined oem R&P's in stock.
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01-21-2015, 01:01 PM	#41
Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Mfactory never got info about you but still in the game whats the price range and BTW send more info to me so i can discuss this,Also you have or plan to have for the 335i's there are way to many on the island and i got a rep for you on this __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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01-21-2015, 01:10 PM	#42
iaknown Banned 425 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 335D Join Date: May 2013 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	I was relayed the following : Price is $2349.95 inc shipping (+$100 to Canada) and refundable core fee ($500 refundable after we receive the old core back).
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