Does Zaino correct swirls, or paint imperfections or just covers it like a make up?

CrimsonIvy35i · 10-26-2010, 03:48 PM

Im looking in to buying a zaino kit, but don't know if it will correct the swirls on the paoint and scratches, as in taking them off completely. Or does it just covers it like makeup. Because I've ready that zaino is applied by hand.

tofu- · 10-26-2010, 05:24 PM

z-5 has some fillers

the polish doesn't cut much, but yes, it will remove very light swirls. better used as a finishing polish though

Krells · 10-28-2010, 09:11 AM

No, you will need to machine polish with something like Menzerna SIP to remove swirls. The Zaino z5/z2 is really a top coat for a well prepped surface.

fisherbln · 10-28-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Krells

No, you will need to machine polish with something like Menzerna SIP to remove swirls. The Zaino z5/z2 is really a top coat for a well prepped surface.

This. Z5 says it will hide swirls but it will only hide very minor ones. Zaino sealants looks best when the paint is prepped with a good polish prior to application.

CrimsonIvy35i · 10-28-2010, 12:22 PM

So basically zaino is just a maintenance wax really

fisherbln · 10-28-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonIvy35i

So basically zaino is just a maintenance wax really

It is a sealant, not an abrasive polish. Only abrasive polishes remove scratches. Waxes do a better job hiding swirls, but don't remove them either. Zaino ZPC (which is available in a couple of the Zaino kits) is a polish and will remove light scratches. If you have heavier scratches (most people do), you'll need a better polish to prep the surface of the paint for the LSP (Last Step Product). To remove scratches in any quantity you'll also need a machine (Random Orbital or Rotary) to apply/work the polish.

The Detailing 101 thread answers a lot of these questions:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9145

pander5 · 10-28-2010, 05:00 PM

I agree with the previous comments. The only product marketed by Zaino to remove swirls and scratches is their ZPC polish and in my experience it's not very aggressive at all. Z2, Z5 and ZCS are sealants and are meant to seal in the efforts of buffing and polishing to remove the paint imperfections first. Zaino also touts Z5 as having some minor "filling" properties but quite honestly I've never experienced that result with it.

I agree with many who have criticized the "labeling" of Zaino sealants as "polishes". Z2Pro and Z5Pro Show Car Polishes are sealants and LSP's only. They are not abrasive or cutting/buffing polishes as we traditionally think of that word. Again, the only Zaino product meant for light cutting is ZPC Fusion and like others, my experience is it is a very light cut polish at best.

tony20009 · 10-28-2010, 05:29 PM

It doesn't actually remove swirls. It will help mollify their appearance to a small extent.

drvai · 10-31-2010, 09:45 AM

Z2 doesn't. Its a pure sealer.

Z5 is supposed to fill some mild imperfections.

TheRox · 11-11-2010, 05:34 PM

zpc doesn't correct much either, i used it one pass...no real difference.

Envious Eric · 11-11-2010, 06:56 PM

zaino = all hype!

anything non-abrasive will do ZERO imperfection removal (swirls and scratches) and if it does, you can be sure its just filling

anything with abrasives will instill marring (clay, compounds more so, mid-level polishes less, and fine polishes less - then you combine with pads to get the right cut/finish). Once you get a fine grade polish, and a fine grade pad - like 85rd and a blue or red pad - with next to zero cut it wont cut the paint, but it will refine it!!

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CrimsonIvy35i Captain 48 Rep 675 Posts Drives: X6 M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central America iTrader: (0)	Does Zaino correct swirls, or paint imperfections or just covers it like a make up? Im looking in to buying a zaino kit, but don't know if it will correct the swirls on the paoint and scratches, as in taking them off completely. Or does it just covers it like makeup. Because I've ready that zaino is applied by hand.
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tofu- Banned 87 Rep 2,854 Posts Drives: 335i Jet Black/Coral Red Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: nyc iTrader: (4)	z-5 has some fillers the polish doesn't cut much, but yes, it will remove very light swirls. better used as a finishing polish though
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Krells Private First Class 2 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	No, you will need to machine polish with something like Menzerna SIP to remove swirls. The Zaino z5/z2 is really a top coat for a well prepped surface.
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CrimsonIvy35i Captain 48 Rep 675 Posts Drives: X6 M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central America iTrader: (0)	So basically zaino is just a maintenance wax really
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pander5 Special Forces - Discretion is superior 31 Rep 1,011 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe Sapphire Black Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tampa, FL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	I agree with the previous comments. The only product marketed by Zaino to remove swirls and scratches is their ZPC polish and in my experience it's not very aggressive at all. Z2, Z5 and ZCS are sealants and are meant to seal in the efforts of buffing and polishing to remove the paint imperfections first. Zaino also touts Z5 as having some minor "filling" properties but quite honestly I've never experienced that result with it. I agree with many who have criticized the "labeling" of Zaino sealants as "polishes". Z2Pro and Z5Pro Show Car Polishes are sealants and LSP's only. They are not abrasive or cutting/buffing polishes as we traditionally think of that word. Again, the only Zaino product meant for light cutting is ZPC Fusion and like others, my experience is it is a very light cut polish at best. __________________ M3 + trailer hitch = oxymoron
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tony20009 Major General 1048 Rep 5,660 Posts Drives: BMW 335i - Coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (0)	It doesn't actually remove swirls. It will help mollify their appearance to a small extent. __________________ Cheers, Tony ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ '07, e92 335i, *Sparkling Graphite, Coral Leather, Aluminum, 6-speed*
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10-31-2010, 09:45 AM	#9
drvai Major 136 Rep 1,274 Posts Drives: E92 M3 AW Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	Z2 doesn't. Its a pure sealer. Z5 is supposed to fill some mild imperfections.
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TheRox Colonel 119 Rep 2,312 Posts Drives: 6mt Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there iTrader: (2)	zpc doesn't correct much either, i used it one pass...no real difference.
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Envious Eric Banned 37 Rep 1,168 Posts Drives: nissan xterra, 335 soon Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: orange county, ca iTrader: (1)	zaino = all hype! anything non-abrasive will do ZERO imperfection removal (swirls and scratches) and if it does, you can be sure its just filling anything with abrasives will instill marring (clay, compounds more so, mid-level polishes less, and fine polishes less - then you combine with pads to get the right cut/finish). Once you get a fine grade polish, and a fine grade pad - like 85rd and a blue or red pad - with next to zero cut it wont cut the paint, but it will refine it!!
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