[335d Rocco]

I'm just watching Watchdog Test House on BBC1 and some inspectors have turned up at a tyre garage in Birmingham, the guy sells part worn tyres and the inspectors have visually inspected 30 tyres and 7 have been classed as defective/dangerous.

All this guys tyres come from abroad...........why oh why do people cut corners n the very things that keep them on the road, I'll never understand it

[335d Rocco]

Wow 35% of tyres were defective which were checked at 4 garages

[DMH-01]

Originally Posted by Uk 330d

why oh why do people cut corners n the very things that keep them on the road, I'll never understand it

Majority don't see the bigger picture and just see a car as a mode of transport to get them from A to B as cheap as possible.

[Icekube]

id rather buy part worn premium tyres, than brand new budgets...

same goes with buying anything second hand, you need to a. know what your buying b. be sure its actually fit for purpose before using it.

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Icekube

id rather buy part worn premium tyres, than brand new budgets...

I wouldn't, if I had to go down the budget tyre or premium part worn route, then I'd choose the budget tyres and then drive accordingly. Part worn aren't worth the risk imo, especially after watching the programme this morning.

[HacKage]

I currently have 2 sets of part worns on mines at the moment, and I am honestly very happy with them.

The fronts were just cheap no names that had 6mm tread on them, both for £80 fitted. The second pair I had fitted just 2 weeks ago from the same place, a pair of ContiSportContact 3s with 5mm tread on both, again for £80 fitted. The other alternative was to pay £300 for 2 tyres twice over, a big difference!

I know that tyre are very important, but the place I goto has all the tyres laid out, YOU choose which ones you want and they will fit them. The only thing I can see wrong with them is 1 tyre in each pair has small damage on the tyre rim protector which should have no bearing on the safety of the tyre itself.

Previously I have been victim of some terrible part worns (slashed sidewall and glued back together) but just like most places, it's good to find a garage or tyre supplier that are decent and don't try and shaft you.

[Digitalize]

A lot of scaremongering basically.

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

A lot of scaremongering basically.

I don't really see a rate 35% of tested tyres as being defective/dangerous tyres from 4 garages as being scaremongering, but each to their own.

[Icekube]

Originally Posted by Uk 330d

I don't really see a rate 35% of tested tyres as being defective/dangerous tyres from 4 garages as being scaremongering, but each to their own.

if you have a pair of eyes, its pretty easy to see if a tyre is fit for purpose.

if your scared of having part worns on your car, you should be changing your tyres every 100 miles.......


Also, how do you know what is being quantified as "defective/dangerous" the media ALWAYS makes shit up to grab head lines. for all we know, tyres that have abit of edge wear (every tyre ever fitted to a BMW??) is marked as defective by their "Experts" (and i use that word very lightly)

[HacKage]

This is from an Auto Express article on it

It also stipulates labelling and traceability: repairs to the rubber should carry the name and registration number of the garage that did the work. These were missing on all of our repaired tyres. Part-worns must also be ink stamped ‘part worn’ on the sidewall to show the tyre has been checked and meets all of these legal requirements. Only one of our 50 tyres bore that seal of approval – and if our sample is representative of the tyres sold across the UK, that’s a mere two per cent of the entire part-worn tyre stock.

This to them means that a tyre is unsafe. Have any of you had a puncture repair and saw the garage mark the tyre with their details?! They then went on to say that half of the tyres they tested were bought from eBay. As above, its a load of scaremongering.

[Icekube]

Originally Posted by HacKage

This is from an Auto Express article on it



This to them means that a tyre is unsafe. Have any of you had a puncture repair and saw the garage mark the tyre with their details?! They then went on to say that half of the tyres they tested were bought from eBay. As above, its a load of scaremongering.

lol, remove all the tyres that had perfectly acceptable puncture repairs from that 35% headline figure, and I wonder how many you would be left with. probably about 3 :P


but OH NO, it was on the TV, and in Colour no less, it must be true, they would never lie to me

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Icekube

if you have a pair of eyes, its pretty easy to see if a tyre is fit for purpose.

if your scared of having part worns on your car, you should be changing your tyres every 100 miles.......


Also, how do you know what is being quantified as "defective/dangerous" the media ALWAYS makes shit up to grab head lines. for all we know, tyres that have abit of edge wear (every tyre ever fitted to a BMW??) is marked as defective by their "Experts" (and i use that word very lightly)

Yep, have a pair of eyes thanks, why would I change my tyres every 100 miles?? I know what my tyres have been through since the moment they went onto my car, so I have no worries about the condition of my tyres.

Out of shape tyres with chunks missing out of the rim/lip of the tyre and tyres that have a hole in but a patch on the inside, shoddyily repaired punctures, punctured tyres repaired right on the edge of the wall of the tyre are clear signs of defective/dangerous tyres, and that's just some examples. And actually watching the inspectors go into these places with a camera crew and show examples of the tyres is hardly making it up now is it???

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Icekube

lol, remove all the tyres that had perfectly acceptable puncture repairs from that 35% headline figure, and I wonder how many you would be left with. probably about 3 :P


but OH NO, it was on the TV, and in Colour no less, it must be true, they would never lie to me

You obviously haven't seen the programme but obviously you know better

[Icekube]

Originally Posted by Uk 330d

Out of shape tyres with chunks missing out of the rim/lip of the tyre and tyres that have a hole in but a patch on the inside, shoddyily repaired punctures, punctured tyres repaired right on the edge of the wall of the tyre are clear signs of defective/dangerous tyres, and that's just some examples. And actually watching the inspectors go into these places with a camera crew and show examples of the tyres is hardly making it up now is it???

and all of those things would easily be picked up by simply looking at the tyre with aforementioned eyes.... its scaremongering pure and simple.

TV footage, surely you can see its obvious they would just cherry pick the "worst" footage out of no-doubt hundreds of hours of recordings, why would they include footage of inspectors turning up and finding nothing but a reputable garage?

That's not good TV.
That doesn't get their point across that parn-worn tyres are evil...

[E92Dan]

Its only the same risk that you would take when buying a second hand car. Just do your home work and im sure you will be fine

[335d Rocco]

What sort of percentage of people will check the part worn tyres before they are fitted to their car?? 50/50 at best maybe, the 50% that dont are the dangerous ones then, they are the ones who could injure you

[Icekube]

Originally Posted by Uk 330d

What sort of percentage of people will check the part worn tyres before they are fitted to their car?? 50/50 at best maybe, the 50% that dont are the dangerous ones then, they are the ones who could injure you

that's pretty stupid logic though, lets ban all part worns because some people might fit tyres there are not fit for purpose because they are incapable of spending 5mins looking at what they are buying.

by that thinking we should ban the sale of second hand cars, because some of them might be un-roadworthy.

[Russbmw]

IMO, everyone gets their knickers in a twist over part worn tyres, but when they're buying a second hand car, not many people take every wheel off the car to closely inspect the tyres.

Personally, I don't have an issue with part worns. Anything that is dangerous, is going to stick out like dogs balls to a relatively sensible person.

So assuming any bulges, rips, or other visible damage is non-existent, the only other issue you're likely to have is the tyre not sealing properly on the wheel because it's already been fitted - but even that is slim possiblity really, as the bead only usually gets fed up if the tyre has been on and off a few times.

Watchdog and the sort (Cowboy Builders is another one) tend to focus on numpites that have no common sense and seek to blame others for their stupidity in most cases, or take a small shard of a fact and inflate it for dramatisation and scaremongering.

If you buy part worn tyres, you need to at least know what you're looking at. If you haven't got a clue, then you shouldn't be considering them. It's like trying to blame the local leisure complex because you jumped in a swimming pool without knowing how to swim.

[335d Rocco]

Originally Posted by Icekube

that's pretty stupid logic though, lets ban all part worns because some people might fit tyres there are not fit for purpose because they are incapable of spending 5mins looking at what they are buying.

by that thinking we should ban the sale of second hand cars, because some of them might be un-roadworthy.

Thats pretty stupid logic too, a car has to have a mot cert to be on the road, a part worn tyre just has to have a stamp on the Inside to say its a part worn, which is hardly ever done.

[335d Rocco]

Also, where have I said part worn tyres should be banned???

[E92Dan]

An MOT only tells you that a car passed on that day, it could easily fail a few days later

[Kerr]

Not a fan of part worn tyre as I've seen too many issues with them. Even when the people are adamant they were fine.

You have to ask the question why so many people take perfectly good tyres off so regular to sell. If it's not good enough for their car, why is it good enough for your car?

Years ago part worn tyres were cheap. You'd only pay £20-30 per tyre. Now the prices are that steep there isn't that much saving, on percentage of tyre wear left, over buying new tyres.