E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > 380wph evo vs my car



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-09-2013, 08:19 AM   #1
oma3710
Major
oma3710's Avatar
195
Rep
1,282
Posts

Drives: ?
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Simpsonville, SC

iTrader: (1)

Exclamation 380wph evo vs my car

Today after work this guy wants to run me. He has an 07 evo FBO with cams running 24lbs. He doesnt have meth and is on the stock turbo. The guy showed me the dyno 380whp. I was wondering with my mods running e85 map 5. Where do I stand? He wants to put $80 on it.
__________________
__________________
SOLD! X5 35i sdrive- JB4
SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3.5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart dual bov~
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
dsm25psi
Private First Class
6
Rep
124
Posts

Drives: 335I, IS300, E30
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte,NC

iTrader: (1)

lol evo x on stock turbo will not make 380awhp on the dyno.
__________________
135i with mods.
Evo 8 804hp GONE
supra sold
evo's sold
335i sold
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:38 AM   #3
jdbretz
Captain
jdbretz's Avatar
50
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: '18 X5d, '12 M3 ZCP, '12 F30
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FL Panhandle

iTrader: (10)

Does he want to race from a dig or rolling? I think it would probably be close from a roll with you coming out ahead. From a dig I don't think you stand a chance.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:39 AM   #4
oma3710
Major
oma3710's Avatar
195
Rep
1,282
Posts

Drives: ?
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Simpsonville, SC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdbretz View Post
Does he want to race from a dig or rolling? I think it would probably be close from a roll with you coming out ahead. From a dig I don't think you stand a chance.

40 roll.
__________________
__________________
SOLD! X5 35i sdrive- JB4
SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3.5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart dual bov~
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:41 AM   #5
BEAR-AvHistory
2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convt
BEAR-AvHistory's Avatar
United_States
3121
Rep
5,264
Posts

Drives: 2020 Z4 M40i - 2022 M4C Convrt
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Raleigh, NC - OIB, NC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Be interesting because for money people lie about the level of their mods.
__________________
Kevin
Dravit Gray, Black Leather, Moonlight Roof, Red Calipers

2022 M4C - 2020 Z4 M40i - 2023 FORD Expedition XLT Max 4X4 400BHP - 2009 V-Star - 1998 Ranger 4X4 5MT - 1965 Cobra (R) 5MT - 2023 Jeep Wrangler Sport S 6MT
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:44 AM   #6
jdbretz
Captain
jdbretz's Avatar
50
Rep
923
Posts

Drives: '18 X5d, '12 M3 ZCP, '12 F30
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: FL Panhandle

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory View Post
Be interesting because for money people lie about the level of their mods.
+1 That dyno sheet could easily be an old one or from another car. I would just race for fun and see what happens. Let us know the outcome either way.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 08:54 AM   #7
Hierlevelz
Captain
75
Rep
916
Posts

Drives: 11 AW E9X M
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: ENYC

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsm25psi View Post
lol evo x on stock turbo will not make 380awhp on the dyno.
It will make 350 ask me how I know. But if he has an FPRed stock framed turbo hell be over 400awhp.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:04 AM   #8
SfValley335i
Colonel
Afghanistan
164
Rep
2,409
Posts

Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: City of Angels

iTrader: (8)

Race and record it. Heck even meet him at the gas station and have him pump 93 into his car while you get e85. I hope your a decent driver if your car is manual....
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:09 AM   #9
ksalih
Lieutenant
ksalih's Avatar
United_States
71
Rep
510
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2 LCI
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Gilbert, AZ

iTrader: (1)

You'd prob make over 400 to the wheels with e85 and your mods. I've gone up against an evo with similar mods to you and took him from a roll. His mods were unknown. I'd say you have him with e85
__________________
'2018 F87 M2 LCI | LBB | GC Camber Plates | Ohlins R&T 90/190N/mm | 18x10 et33 square 275/35 | MPe | Poly Transmission Mounts | Recaro Sportster CS
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:09 AM   #10
dsm25psi
Private First Class
6
Rep
124
Posts

Drives: 335I, IS300, E30
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Charlotte,NC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hierlevelz View Post
It will make 350 ask me how I know. But if he has an FPRed stock framed turbo hell be over 400awhp.
it will make 350 but with tons of boltons and running 26+psi. My evo x made 410awhp with fpblack, cams and full boltons.
__________________
135i with mods.
Evo 8 804hp GONE
supra sold
evo's sold
335i sold
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:23 AM   #11
Dave W.
Lieutenant
5
Rep
538
Posts

Drives: Porsche 951, 1992 Eagle Talon
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (0)

Are you sure it's an X?
The EVO X officially came out in 2008.
If he bought a 9 in 2007 you have something to worry about.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:28 AM   #12
oma3710
Major
oma3710's Avatar
195
Rep
1,282
Posts

Drives: ?
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Simpsonville, SC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave W. View Post
Are you sure it's an X?
The EVO X officially came out in 2008.
If he bought a 9 in 2007 you have something to worry about.
Whats the difference btw the two?
__________________
__________________
SOLD! X5 35i sdrive- JB4
SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3.5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart dual bov~
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:29 AM   #13
oma3710
Major
oma3710's Avatar
195
Rep
1,282
Posts

Drives: ?
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Simpsonville, SC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SfValley335i View Post
Race and record it. Heck even meet him at the gas station and have him pump 93 into his car while you get e85. I hope your a decent driver if your car is manual....
I plan on having someone record it. And I'm automatic. Im a pretty good driver.
__________________
__________________
SOLD! X5 35i sdrive- JB4
SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3.5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart dual bov~
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:34 AM   #14
RnmEvo9
Banned
247
Rep
1,827
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pembroke Pines, FL

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by oma3710 View Post
Whats the difference btw the two?
Different body styles, engines, potential etc. I had an Evo9 making a bit over 400awhp and walked away from every single 335i from a roll. From a dig, it really wasn't fair at all, but N54's have come a long away from back then and so you should have a decent shot at beating him from a roll if he is being truthful.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:38 AM   #15
oma3710
Major
oma3710's Avatar
195
Rep
1,282
Posts

Drives: ?
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Simpsonville, SC

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by RnmEvo9 View Post
Different body styles, engines, potential etc. I had an Evo9 making a bit over 400awhp and walked away from every single 335i from a roll. From a dig, it really wasn't fair at all, but N54's have come a long away from back then and so you should have a decent shot at beating him from a roll if he is being truthful.
I misunderstood him he has an 03 evo and 07 sti. The sti is stock so not running that one.
__________________
__________________
SOLD! X5 35i sdrive- JB4
SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3.5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart dual bov~
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:38 AM   #16
Ænema
Captain
14
Rep
961
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Arizona Bay

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by oma3710 View Post
Whats the difference btw the two?
There is a larger/cheaper aftermarket available to the 4g63(evo IX and older) than the 4B11(evo x) so odds are if it's an evo IX it may be more heavily modified.

Either way, just run him for fun and see what happens.
__________________
"I'm not surprised you get along well with all the other neighbours. If you put fifty children with Down's syndrome in a room there is going to be a lot of hugging." David Thorne
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 09:42 AM   #17
demontwinz
Lieutenant
18
Rep
456
Posts

Drives: 335i e92
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

my friend has an evo .. i think 09 with 600 hp for the track

he also has a FBO 135i with LSD, suspension upgrades and he finds it slow.

he's kinda crazy tho
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 10:32 AM   #18
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
United_States
3441
Rep
79,212
Posts

Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com

iTrader: (37)

You will win with E85 for sure if you can drive, assuming it was an evo 8.

I've had my fair share of runs with the Evo 8 9 and 10 from Full bolt on stock turbo to FP Red Black and setups making 500-600WHP.

I specifically remember running an Evo 8, full bolt on, with cams and i outran him.

On the 40 roll he will get the jump, so you will be playing catch up. Dont be late on the 40 roll or it will take you till 120 to catch up.

After about 120 those cars on stock turbo just cant breathe. If he's lying about this turbo and any other part of his setup you may have a problem.

If its an Evo 9 the turbo is a bit better. This will make it a pretty close race. I wouldn't bet anything on it. One mess up at the roll being late and you will be playing catch up.

If the race is 40-140 you might edge him out if its an evo 9.

My setup at the time was 390-400WHP with methanol. All I had was an intake. No downpipes, No intercooler, stock exhaust.

The methanol helped me on the top end more then a pump gas car. I was probably running 18 PSI tapering to 15 by redline.

He showed you the dyno, was it a mustang dyno or dynojet?

Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 01-09-2013 at 10:39 AM..
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 10:45 AM   #19
Sick335
Major
United_States
88
Rep
1,174
Posts

Drives: 335i / X6M
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Woodland Hills, CA

iTrader: (2)

"Smoke him"
Dom Toretto
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 11:04 AM   #20
Projekt_BooGie
Average Car Exceeding Expectations (ACEE)
Projekt_BooGie's Avatar
United_States
357
Rep
4,806
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i e92
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Home random floods and Cajun Navy

iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2007 e92  [7.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sick335 View Post
"Smoke him"
Dom Toretto
This is a good question...my little bro wants to race me. He have a evo 8 with evo 9 and fmic, exhaust, cams, intake, and tune I think. I'm not sure about dp. But I think he was doing 350 to the wheels. I always wanted to know how I would match up. Both cars are standards, and I'm a little better driver, so hopefully that'll give me the edge.
__________________

too much to list...just know its wide and bagged
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 11:05 AM   #21
ChuckD05
NeedsMoarBoost
United_States
42
Rep
528
Posts

Drives: 08 135i / 06 e90 325xi
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
i have a video on youtube of me running a evo with a stock ix turbo (i think, may of been the 8) with cams tuned on e85 and i walked him pretty good, terrible video but ill post in a second... he said he put down 405whp too, not sure what dyno or how it read but he had no reason to lie bc he was a cool dude not some dueche and just wanted to see whos was quicker because mutual friends would always start sh;t about it , lol... we had a line of cars following so it was satisfying

i was fbo 6m 135i now i have a 335 tho


__________________
08 135i 6m - 12.1@120.2 2.0 60ft - JB4/Meth - SOLD
09 335i e92 Mtech - RB FBO
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2013, 11:34 AM   #22
bigdnno98
Real Car Enthusiast
bigdnno98's Avatar
Germany
287
Rep
2,076
Posts

Drives: 340xi
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Germany

iTrader: (8)

You should beat it but one thing I've learned is most Evo owners lie about mods. It's really annoying.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:50 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST