Key Memory not available??? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Armen52 · 05-06-2005, 10:27 PM

Hey guys,

So check out this new notice that now appears on the final page at bmwusa.com if you build an E90.

"Note: Advanced Vehicle & Key Memory and Programmable Daytime Running Lights are not available at this time."

What the hell does this mean? Does it mean associating vehicle settings with the key fobs is gone? Is it a glitch that will be fixed on our cars? Is it not there at all for MY2006?

What's going on? Who knows more about this? Any dealer or BMWNA contact to explain?

RichReg · 05-06-2005, 10:39 PM

It was just updated today. I'm guessing that those of us that have ordered the car don't get these items.....

I WANT $$$$ OFF MY CAR!!!!!!!!!

Nathan · 05-06-2005, 10:40 PM

Damn, i just saw that too. Not sure what they mean, because the US Manual shows the key memory functions that are available.

Nathan

Armen52 · 05-06-2005, 10:56 PM

By the way guys I've emailed BMW from the Contact Us page on the site for more clarification on this issue. But I don't expect to hear back from them until Monday.

Could any owners try this out and maybe tell us what's going on?

Nathan · 05-06-2005, 10:57 PM

Man i'm really upset about this. Maybe its a misprint and they meant functions that use the Comfort Access system which isn't available till September.

Cross your fingers.

Nathan

divide · 05-06-2005, 10:59 PM

Well am scheduled to pick up my car tomorrow, and you better believe am going to check this out for myself. It better work as I believe it should. Things like this is why its pays to come to E90post.com. Thanks guys for the heads-up

RichReg · 05-06-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armen52

By the way guys I've emailed BMW from the Contact Us page on the site for more clarification on this issue. But I don't expect to hear back from them until Monday.

Could any owners try this out and maybe tell us what's going on?

Come to think of it...several people have already taken delivery & they didn't mention anything about those items being missing. What gives??

Nathan · 05-06-2005, 11:19 PM

Ok, i just watched 'Smarter' and Advanced Key section, and it talks about the regular key memory features and Comfort Access, so i'm pretty sure they mean Comfort Access is unavailable.

in regards to the daylight running lamps, i know the angel eyes work, i tested it myself a week ago.

Nathan

RichReg · 05-06-2005, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncoutinho

Ok, i just watched 'Smarter' and Advanced Key section, and it talks about the regular key memory features and Comfort Access, so i'm pretty sure they mean Comfort Access is unavailable.

in regards to the daylight running lamps, i know the angel eyes work, i tested it myself a week ago.

Nathan

Alright, so what this means is....Advanced Key Memory consists of certain memory functions that are ONLY available with Comfort Access, which is not available 'til September, right? But there are some Standard Key Memory features, correct?

marcus330i · 05-07-2005, 12:52 AM

Do people on the Lexus forums EVER have these kinds of problems?

Armen52 · 05-07-2005, 01:05 AM

This is really making me reconsider buying an E90 so early guys.

I will wait to hear back from BMWNA or a dealer for clarification on this bizarre comment before I proceed with my order.

spikes111 · 05-07-2005, 01:09 AM

Armen, why not just stop by a dealer tomorrow for clarification?

Armen52 · 05-07-2005, 01:56 AM

As I mentioned in my other thread (which is getting almost no replies

) I will be going to the dealer tomorrow afternoon.

So I will definitely be asking the guy there about it. Problem is, the salespeople are rarely as up to date on things as we are.

edrucker · 05-07-2005, 02:55 AM

I just took delivery yesterday my my SG/Terra/Al 330i (sans sp) and I believe the key memory works. I was playing in the garage last night and I changed some of the settlings - specifically 12/24 hour times. This morning I used the fob on my key ring and it was the 24 hour format. I tried the other fob and it was the correct 12 hour format.

Ewrek · 05-07-2005, 08:21 AM

As soon as someone finds out..pleasepost...really concerned

Nathan · 05-07-2005, 08:40 AM

Ok guys, Edrucker confirmed that the key memory works just fine, which is what I thought they were talking about (Comfort Access).

Can anyone confirm that you can get your day running lamps working?

Nathan

skimo · 05-07-2005, 11:41 AM

Sorry, but what are "day running lamps" ?

thanks
skimo

RichReg · 05-07-2005, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimo

Sorry, but what are "day running lamps" ?

thanks
skimo

They are headlights that run during the day (in low brightness) and shut-off automatically when you turn off the car.

skimo · 05-07-2005, 12:02 PM

ahhhh... i thought they were a standard feature on all US models?

RichReg · 05-07-2005, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skimo

ahhhh... i thought they were a standard feature on all US models?

Apparently BMWUSA.com has been saying otherwise in the past 24 hours.

ziv · 05-07-2005, 03:00 PM

Man, you guys are making everyone nervous :-) RELAX !!! I drove the car on Monday for 350 miles. I had 2 keys. I played with them. All the settings were memorized. DON'T WORRY !!! The daylight running lights were a dealer programmed feature, on the E46. I think that BMWNA meant to say that this feature isn't part of the key memory, which may be true. When picking up the cars through ED, BMW doesn't program daylight running lights and auto door locks because, believe it or not, they are afraid of Americans suing them (since Americans sue for everything). They want Americans to sign a form, when the car arrives at the dealer, that ASKS the dealer to program a bunch of things. THAT'S IT.

That said -- Troy, the other 330i that joined me for the drive in Munich had iDrive and he could actually program several of these things in his car, which I couldn't. So if you have iDrive, you have more control of things you can do, w/o asking the dealer. If you don't have iDrive, you will have to go to the dealer.

Hope this helps.

ciao ---

Ziv.

Armen52 · 05-08-2005, 05:33 AM

So I received a response from BMWNA customer service regarding the message. Here is what they wrote back to me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWNA

Thank you for contacting BMW of North America, LLC regarding the upcoming all-new 3 Series. We appreciate your interest and enthusiasm for our vehicles.

The message that is posted on the website is referring to the personal programmable options on the vehicle. When you take delivery of the vehicle, your salesperson will go over a list of programmable options with you so you can set some of the features of the vehicle according to your personal preference. For example if you want the horn to sound when you lock or unlock the doors, or if you want the headlights to blink and so on. This message is indicating that a few of these options are not available at this time. BMW is currently investigating the issue so that these options can be made available as soon as possible.

I have already replied asking for clarification on the following issues:

1) Whether the fix is retrofittable.
2) If not, what do owners of cars with the missing features get in return.
3) What features are missing exactly?
4) If there is a mailing list or way to stay updated on the matter.

I will post any more news I have as I get it.

05-06-2005, 10:27 PM	#1
Armen52 Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 671 iTrader: (0) View Armen52's Garage	Key Memory not available??? Hey guys, So check out this new notice that now appears on the final page at bmwusa.com if you build an E90. "Note: Advanced Vehicle & Key Memory and Programmable Daytime Running Lights are not available at this time." What the hell does this mean? Does it mean associating vehicle settings with the key fobs is gone? Is it a glitch that will be fixed on our cars? Is it not there at all for MY2006? What's going on? Who knows more about this? Any dealer or BMWNA contact to explain?

05-07-2005, 12:52 AM	#10
marcus330i Captain Drives: 2006 330i 6spd Join Date: May 2005 Location: Point Loma, California Posts: 525 iTrader: (0)	Do people on the Lexus forums EVER have these kinds of problems? __________________ Realtor Mobile: 6spd / Sport / Prem / Navi / ED 3-30-06 73 3.0s/84 528e/90 525i/97 M3 4dr/99 M3 Conv/2001 330i/2004 545i ED/2006 330i ED June 05 You're in control...is there anywhere you want to go ? -------------------------

05-07-2005, 01:09 AM	#12
spikes111 First Lieutenant Drives: 328i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: VA Posts: 342 iTrader: (0)	Armen, why not just stop by a dealer tomorrow for clarification? __________________

05-07-2005, 02:55 AM	#14
edrucker Registered Drives: BMW 330i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	Key Memory I just took delivery yesterday my my SG/Terra/Al 330i (sans sp) and I believe the key memory works. I was playing in the garage last night and I changed some of the settlings - specifically 12/24 hour times. This morning I used the fob on my key ring and it was the 24 hour format. I tried the other fob and it was the correct 12 hour format.

05-06-2005, 10:39 PM	#2
RichReg Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2006 330i Sport & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,820 iTrader: (0)	It was just updated today. I'm guessing that those of us that have ordered the car don't get these items..... I WANT $$$$ OFF MY CAR!!!!!!!!!

05-06-2005, 10:40 PM	#3
Nathan First Lieutenant Drives: 2010 X5 3.0 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Windy City Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Damn, i just saw that too. Not sure what they mean, because the US Manual shows the key memory functions that are available. Nathan

05-06-2005, 10:56 PM	#4
Armen52 Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 671 iTrader: (0) View Armen52's Garage	By the way guys I've emailed BMW from the Contact Us page on the site for more clarification on this issue. But I don't expect to hear back from them until Monday. Could any owners try this out and maybe tell us what's going on?

05-06-2005, 10:57 PM	#5
Nathan First Lieutenant Drives: 2010 X5 3.0 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Windy City Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Man i'm really upset about this. Maybe its a misprint and they meant functions that use the Comfort Access system which isn't available till September. Cross your fingers. Nathan

05-06-2005, 10:59 PM	#6
divide Enlisted Member Drives: E90 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Owings Mills, MD Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	Well am scheduled to pick up my car tomorrow, and you better believe am going to check this out for myself. It better work as I believe it should. Things like this is why its pays to come to E90post.com. Thanks guys for the heads-up

05-06-2005, 11:19 PM	#8
Nathan First Lieutenant Drives: 2010 X5 3.0 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Windy City Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Ok, i just watched 'Smarter' and Advanced Key section, and it talks about the regular key memory features and Comfort Access, so i'm pretty sure they mean Comfort Access is unavailable. in regards to the daylight running lamps, i know the angel eyes work, i tested it myself a week ago. Nathan

05-07-2005, 01:05 AM	#11
Armen52 Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 671 iTrader: (0) View Armen52's Garage	This is really making me reconsider buying an E90 so early guys. I will wait to hear back from BMWNA or a dealer for clarification on this bizarre comment before I proceed with my order.

05-07-2005, 01:56 AM	#13
Armen52 Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 671 iTrader: (0) View Armen52's Garage	As I mentioned in my other thread (which is getting almost no replies ) I will be going to the dealer tomorrow afternoon. So I will definitely be asking the guy there about it. Problem is, the salespeople are rarely as up to date on things as we are.

05-07-2005, 08:21 AM	#15
Ewrek Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA. Posts: 199 iTrader: (0)	As soon as someone finds out..pleasepost...really concerned

05-07-2005, 08:40 AM	#16
Nathan First Lieutenant Drives: 2010 X5 3.0 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Windy City Posts: 370 iTrader: (0)	Ok guys, Edrucker confirmed that the key memory works just fine, which is what I thought they were talking about (Comfort Access). Can anyone confirm that you can get your day running lamps working? Nathan

05-07-2005, 11:41 AM	#17
skimo Lieutenant Drives: 07 335i Dinan II Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin Texas !! Posts: 477 iTrader: (1)	Sorry, but what are "day running lamps" ? thanks skimo

05-07-2005, 12:02 PM	#19
skimo Lieutenant Drives: 07 335i Dinan II Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin Texas !! Posts: 477 iTrader: (1)	ahhhh... i thought they were a standard feature on all US models?

05-07-2005, 03:00 PM	#21
ziv Private First Class Drives: 330i, SG, Sport Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 86 iTrader: (0)	Man, you guys are making everyone nervous :-) RELAX !!! I drove the car on Monday for 350 miles. I had 2 keys. I played with them. All the settings were memorized. DON'T WORRY !!! The daylight running lights were a dealer programmed feature, on the E46. I think that BMWNA meant to say that this feature isn't part of the key memory, which may be true. When picking up the cars through ED, BMW doesn't program daylight running lights and auto door locks because, believe it or not, they are afraid of Americans suing them (since Americans sue for everything). They want Americans to sign a form, when the car arrives at the dealer, that ASKS the dealer to program a bunch of things. THAT'S IT. That said -- Troy, the other 330i that joined me for the drive in Munich had iDrive and he could actually program several of these things in his car, which I couldn't. So if you have iDrive, you have more control of things you can do, w/o asking the dealer. If you don't have iDrive, you will have to go to the dealer. Hope this helps. ciao --- Ziv.