[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

This is for the supercharger

So...there is no tune for the SC?? I'm confused here.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by Eagle1oh7

So...there is no tune for the SC?? I'm confused here.

They used the 330 as the base instead of the 328.

[Eagle1oh7]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

They used the 330 as the base instead of the 328.

Ok, now it makes sense.

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Congrats, but i posted about the power class byte like 2 years ago.

You can disable the check or change the byte. I usually just change the byte.

Correct, actually 2 years and month since I did my first flash with the PowerClass Byte swap. April 17, 2015. There has been a bunch of information posted since then with you and Terraphantm really digging into the logic and storage locattions.

You have also been very open and sharing with that information.

Any tuner missing this has been asleep at the wheel. I'm a complete novice and I found it.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by rjahl

Correct, actually 2 years and month since I did my first flash with the PowerClass Byte swap. April 17, 2015. There has been a bunch of information posted since then with you and Terraphantm really digging into the logic and storage locattions.

You have also been very open and sharing with that information.

Any tuner missing this has been asleep at the wheel. I'm a complete novice and I found it.

You guys have to think about the fact that he owns a business that makes supercharger kits and tunes for many vehicles other than a 328i. If he spent all his time on the 328 they would never make any money because hardly anyone bought it.

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

You guys have to think about the fact that he owns a business that makes supercharger kits and tunes for many vehicles other than a 328i. If he spent all his time on the 328 they would never make any money because hardly anyone bought it.

I only partially agree you on this. At some point you need to provide a real R&D budget into your services. These companies charge $400-$600 per pop on a tune. Once it's developed, each tune is nearly cost free. If you sell 50 tunes for a given car you've grossed $20,000 or more.

Now factor the similarities between DMEs and the number of cars that learning curve and R&D covers.

Frankly, I don't see a really interested professional missing this one.

Don't get me wrong, I think some Tuners work very hard for their money and provide excellent services. Perhaps there are times when a specific tuner has invested less time into a platform than their charges suggest.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I only partially agree you on this. At some point you need to provide a real R&D budget into your services. These companies charge $400-$600 per pop on a tune. Once it's developed, each tune is nearly cost free. If you sell 50 tunes for a given car you've grossed $20,000 or more.

Now factor the similarities between DMEs and the number of cars that learning curve and R&D covers.

Frankly, I don't see a really interested professional missing this one.

Don't get me wrong, I think some Tuners work very hard for their money and provide excellent services. Perhaps there are times when a specific tuner has invested less time into a platform than their charges suggest.

I can understand what your saying. Makes sense too. They problem was they thought the 328 software would work and it was, at least with my car, but not for other people's and thats why I think they are trying this. They are using the euro spec 330 file because it's mafless. So now they have a stable alpha n file and he believes they're shouldn't be any problems with other cars now. Before he said that each 328 software would like different things.

[jonwilli]

Does this new tune allow heel and toe or is your car an auto?

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by jonwilli

Does this new tune allow heel and toe or is your car an auto?

I have a manual and it does allow it. Before this tune, I could not use brake and accelerator at the same time.

[jonwilli]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

I have a manual and it does allow it. Before this tune, I could not use brake and accelerator at the same time.

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

You guys have to think about the fact that he owns a business that makes supercharger kits and tunes for many vehicles other than a 328i. If he spent all his time on the 328 they would never make any money because hardly anyone bought it.

Yes and no. Most of these DMEs are related - figure something out on one, and you've pretty much got it figured out for all of the Siemens DMEs - that's how hass and I got to work together too. I had an interest in the MS45, he had an interest in MSV70 - quickly realized that they were very closely related and that helped us crack open the tricore DMEs too.

ESS even gave you the 335i and 335is as an example of the lockout; it is literally the same code that enforces that. So even if he has an interest in a bunch of cars, it is worth spending the time to understand how the code flows.

[Kubricks]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

I have a manual and it does allow it. Before this tune, I could not use brake and accelerator at the same time.

Interesting to know!
Does you current tune use MAF or Alpha-N?

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by Kubricks

Interesting to know!
Does you current tune use MAF or Alpha-N?

Alpha n

[hassmaschine]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

I have a manual and it does allow it. Before this tune, I could not use brake and accelerator at the same time.

Gee i wonder where ESS got this idea from.

FWIW, been running alpha-n for several months and the car is running perfectly.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Gee i wonder where ESS got this idea from.

FWIW, been running alpha-n for several months and the car is running perfectly.

Well it's good to know that mine will stay running good then. Haha

I've told them about the little issues I've had and I'm pretty sure people have told them about the major issues they've had. So they probably started working on it then

[jonwilli]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

Well it's good to know that mine will stay running good then. Haha

I've told them about the little issues I've had and I'm pretty sure people have told them about the major issues they've had. So they probably started working on it then

Do you have any dynos (or plan on) of the car in its current state of tune? It sounds a lot more promising that most of the other ESS N52 reviews I've seen. From your butt what would you compare your cars power to? Stock 335i, E46 M3...

[hugyourewoks]

I'll trust Terraphantm and hassmaschine with their pages of information (and that is only on this forum) over a tuning shop that occasionally looks at N52 or 51 and their respective DMEs. The enthusiast will find the needed info for any project. I'm not bashing shops, just reiterating the need to search on your own before committing to a particular product, tune, etc; however, if you have the money, do what you want!

[hassmaschine]

Originally Posted by Cdutch513

Well it's good to know that mine will stay running good then. Haha

I've told them about the little issues I've had and I'm pretty sure people have told them about the major issues they've had. So they probably started working on it then

yeah, it should continue to run well. hot days, cold days, A/C on, etc. It's funny because when I finally removed the MAF (technically it will still use it as long as it's present), I could hardly tell a difference except it seems to be a bit sharper and maybe the ass dyno feels a bit more pull at high RPM. It basically confirmed my theory that the engine was designed with out it, and it was likely added for emissions purposes only. The big thing IMO is the IAT will likely never fail, and even if it did replacements are cheap.

Did ESS get you a real euro IAT or are you still running with the clipped MAF wires? the euro IAT plugs right in, you don't need to modify anything to use it.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

yeah, it should continue to run well. hot days, cold days, A/C on, etc. It's funny because when I finally removed the MAF (technically it will still use it as long as it's present), I could hardly tell a difference except it seems to be a bit sharper and maybe the ass dyno feels a bit more pull at high RPM. It basically confirmed my theory that the engine was designed with out it, and it was likely added for emissions purposes only. The big thing IMO is the IAT will likely never fail, and even if it did replacements are cheap.

Did ESS get you a real euro IAT or are you still running with the clipped MAF wires? the euro IAT plugs right in, you don't need to modify anything to use it.

I have the clipped maf wires. You have to cut them and splice in more wire anyway, due to the new location of the maf, so they just didn't extend the one wire.

[Cdutch513]

Originally Posted by jonwilli

Do you have any dynos (or plan on) of the car in its current state of tune? It sounds a lot more promising that most of the other ESS N52 reviews I've seen. From your butt what would you compare your cars power to? Stock 335i, E46 M3...

Honestly I haven't driven one of those cars but I raced a e46 M3 with some mods, in Mexico, before the new tune and we were neck and neck until about 110. We started at 60.

[Cdutch513]

Here is dyno

[CobraMarty]

276rwHP/232rwTQ

Is that at 6psi?

Glad the hear that your car is running better with the new tune.