Meth,.. So easy, cheap... Why don't more people run it?

Josh1a1h · 11-20-2011, 06:20 AM

SOOOOO.... Who has it here in the UK???

After a JB4 tune, it is the best power to price ratio! Why dont more of us do it?

It is a simple install as well as removal for warranty repairs and not other mods are needed other than JB4 and induction!*

Others as we have seen have had great power results with no other mods!

We already have a JB4 which is meth ready...*

Easy, fairly quick install...

Where do we find meth here in the uk???

I am very tempted!

phil200tdi · 11-20-2011, 07:14 AM

Have you spoken to your insurance co?

You can buy premixed meth from devils own uk.

Im keen to do this cos of the cleaning effect and to reduce IAT's... Plus 480bhp wouldn't hurt!

idnan · 11-20-2011, 07:23 AM

I'm keen on it as well since my Evolution Racewerks chargepipe already has a meth bung tapped into it.

I'm interested in a trunk mount kit since I have no space for the pump in the enginebay with my oil catch can and forge diverter valves.

Maybe we should form a group buy with Neil??

Josh1a1h · 11-20-2011, 09:11 AM

thanks for the feedback guys

i would only run it on the track bud...

Evolution Racewerks chargepipe sounds like a decent investment if it makes the installation of the meth easier.

I was considering using the washer fluid bottle because it keeps all the wiring, meth lines in the engine bay... and you can still use meth to clean the windshield supposedly...???

acerboo · 11-20-2011, 09:58 AM

sorry but what is meth im totally in the dark

phil200tdi · 11-20-2011, 12:33 PM

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596761

neil@JuicedUpTuning · 11-20-2011, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idnan

I'm keen on it as well since my Evolution Racewerks chargepipe already has a meth bung tapped into it.

I'm interested in a trunk mount kit since I have no space for the pump in the engine bay with my oil catch can and forge diverter valves.

Maybe we should form a group buy with Neil??

If there enough interest then we can look into a group buy

Quote:

Originally Posted by acerboo

sorry but what is meth im totally in the dark

Its what allows the N54 engine to reach the 500whp figures achieved in the US and the world over. For JB4 users only Cooling Mist and BMS FSB kit is supported due to the protection features these kits offer and their integration with the JB4 Meth controller.

Juiced Up does not recommend standalone Meth kits...

Methanol injection is intended for more experienced enthusiasts only.

Methanol/Alcohol/Water injection, commonly referred to as "meth", allows you to make tremendous amounts of power on pump gas. The effect is similar to running 104 octane all the time, with additional cooling benefits allowing for more power than you could ever make on race gas alone.

We offer two unique styles of methanol kits. Our traditional "trunk mount" kits utilize the industry leading CM integrated tanks which locate the methanol pump in the tank simplifying install and removal. For those looking for a simpler and quicker install our engine bay mount (WW kit) utilizes your windshield wiper reservoir as a methanol tank. Since most windshield wiper fluids are up to 40% methanol the tank easily accommodates 50% ratio and higher methanol mixtures which both clean your windows and maximize engine output. And when fluid runs low you're low washer fluid light will remind you it's time to fill up. Our WW kit can be installed and removed in less than 20 minutes making it ideal for newer or leased vehicles.

Regardless of which install method you choose we've selected the 220psi methanol pump for its superior atomization and flow characteristics relative to less expensive 160psi pumps. This kit also features a high speed solenoid for precise control and a CM10 super atomizing injection nozzle perfectly sized for the 380-440whp range.

All kits integrate with the JB4 tuning system using the included FSB controller which allows for precise methanol solenoid mapping based on boost, throttle position, RPM, air intake temperature, advance, and other data elements available to the JB4 through its CANbus system. In addition the FSB feeds back an independent signal with pump loading and flow information allowing for safe and smooth progressive boost mapping. If the tank runs empty or flow drops for any reason the JB4 will safely back down performance to avoid knock. In addition methanol can be activated or disabled from the drivers seat and displayed in dash using your steering wheel control menu.

If you're using one of our older kits and want to upgrade to JB4/FSB integration you can purchase the FSB controller ala-cart. We also strongly suggest a solenoid with the FSB which is also available ala-cart.

The kits include everything needed for install except for a methanol bung. Depending on the model year of the vehicle you can add on one of our meth mount elbows, a new charge pipe with a methanol bung preinstalled, or if you're on a budget you can simply drill and tap your OEM chargepipe for the 1/8" NPT injection nozzle.

phil200tdi · 11-20-2011, 12:58 PM

Rough cost estimate in the uk Neil?

doughboy · 11-20-2011, 01:55 PM

love it...

you're all going mad!

neil@JuicedUpTuning · 11-20-2011, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil200tdi

Rough cost estimate in the uk Neil?

Will need to get the latest pricing from BMS on the kits...

Price will depend on what people are after...Cooling Mist, BMS WW, etc etc

Before I look into prices start lets get a list of interested people and what kit(s) are required...

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

Neil

idnan · 11-20-2011, 03:34 PM

1) Basic Coolingmist kit with 1/1.5 gallon tank (price dependant)
2)
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5)

neil@JuicedUpTuning · 11-20-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh1a1h

i would only run it on the track bud...

Josh are you convincing us or yourself?

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboy

love it...

you're all going mad!

So your in then Mike

Josh1a1h · 11-20-2011, 05:25 PM

haha doing my best to convince myself.

Im not in a complete rush... i need to do some reading first, but i would be quite tempted depending on price...

all i know is i will want a WW Kit.. need to read up on the other bits like cooling mist etc...

Mastermixlee · 11-20-2011, 05:38 PM

2)Mastermixlee - WW kit :-)
3)
4)
5)

neil@JuicedUpTuning · 11-21-2011, 03:48 PM

Just to tidy the list up....

1) Josh1a1h
2) Idnan
3) Mastermixlee
4)
5)

Nigelo · 11-22-2011, 05:30 AM

Oh bollox, resist resist resist

need intercooler and dci's first before I go for meth though.

Want to do me a special dci/intercooler deal?

neil@JuicedUpTuning · 11-22-2011, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigelo

Oh bollox, resist resist resist

need intercooler and dci's first before I go for meth though.

Want to do me a special dci/intercooler deal?

No problem both in stock

Nigelo · 11-22-2011, 06:01 AM

Well, hit me up with a price pm!

When payday comes, Ill pop my order in!

Quote:

Originally Posted by neil@JuicedUpTuning

No problem both in stock

Mastermixlee · 11-22-2011, 09:13 AM

Neil can you do a deal for the intercooler, WW meth kit and charge pipe for the meth nozzle to screw into?

Vtec Abuser · 11-22-2011, 10:13 AM

If you're running Meth a FMIC isn't generally needed. Only if you want belt and braces type thing..

Mastermixlee · 11-22-2011, 10:38 AM

I was under the impression that meth works better in conjuction with the intercooler? Plus I wouldnt be using the meth 100% of the time, I was looking to use 100% water during normal use then add the meth mix when spirited driving is planned ;-)

Nigelo · 11-22-2011, 10:40 AM

Yeah, just looking to have options as to what map I use daily.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vtec Abuser

If you're running Meth a FMIC isn't generally needed. Only if you want belt and braces type thing..

11-20-2011, 06:20 AM	#1
Josh1a1h Banned 170 Rep 3,828 Posts Drives: AzuriteBlack 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central North to West London iTrader: (2)	Meth,.. So easy, cheap... Why don't more people run it? SOOOOO.... Who has it here in the UK??? After a JB4 tune, it is the best power to price ratio! Why dont more of us do it? It is a simple install as well as removal for warranty repairs and not other mods are needed other than JB4 and induction!* Others as we have seen have had great power results with no other mods! We already have a JB4 which is meth ready...* Easy, fairly quick install... Where do we find meth here in the uk??? I am very tempted!
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	Have you spoken to your insurance co? You can buy premixed meth from devils own uk. Im keen to do this cos of the cleaning effect and to reduce IAT's... Plus 480bhp wouldn't hurt! __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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idnan Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,518 Posts Drives: Alpine White 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (9)	I'm keen on it as well since my Evolution Racewerks chargepipe already has a meth bung tapped into it. I'm interested in a trunk mount kit since I have no space for the pump in the enginebay with my oil catch can and forge diverter valves. Maybe we should form a group buy with Neil??
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Josh1a1h Banned 170 Rep 3,828 Posts Drives: AzuriteBlack 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central North to West London iTrader: (2)	thanks for the feedback guys i would only run it on the track bud... Evolution Racewerks chargepipe sounds like a decent investment if it makes the installation of the meth easier. I was considering using the washer fluid bottle because it keeps all the wiring, meth lines in the engine bay... and you can still use meth to clean the windshield supposedly...???
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11-20-2011, 09:58 AM	#5
acerboo Brigadier General 179 Rep 3,923 Posts Drives: e92 335d lci Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: kent iTrader: (2)	sorry but what is meth im totally in the dark
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596761 __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	Rough cost estimate in the uk Neil? __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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11-20-2011, 03:34 PM	#11
idnan Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,518 Posts Drives: Alpine White 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (9)	1) Basic Coolingmist kit with 1/1.5 gallon tank (price dependant) 2) 3) 4) 5)
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Josh1a1h Banned 170 Rep 3,828 Posts Drives: AzuriteBlack 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central North to West London iTrader: (2)	haha doing my best to convince myself. Im not in a complete rush... i need to do some reading first, but i would be quite tempted depending on price... all i know is i will want a WW Kit.. need to read up on the other bits like cooling mist etc...
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Nigelo Lieutenant 30 Rep 540 Posts Drives: E92 335i se Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Northern Ireland iTrader: (1)	Oh bollox, resist resist resist need intercooler and dci's first before I go for meth though. Want to do me a special dci/intercooler deal?
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Mastermixlee Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 335i e92 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	I want METH! :-P Neil can you do a deal for the intercooler, WW meth kit and charge pipe for the meth nozzle to screw into?
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Vtec Abuser First Lieutenant 35 Rep 367 Posts Drives: 2012 135i DCT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Every-bloody-where.. iTrader: (0)	If you're running Meth a FMIC isn't generally needed. Only if you want belt and braces type thing..
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11-22-2011, 10:38 AM	#21
Mastermixlee Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 203 Posts Drives: 335i e92 Join Date: May 2011 Location: London iTrader: (0)	meth I was under the impression that meth works better in conjuction with the intercooler? Plus I wouldnt be using the meth 100% of the time, I was looking to use 100% water during normal use then add the meth mix when spirited driving is planned ;-)
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