Uninstalling Cobb AP

O HELLA BMW · 06-22-2011, 05:04 PM

Here's my shadow codes after I uninstalled my cobb

Current Shadow Fault Codes

2DC5:
2DC5 Torque requirement via CAN controller area network, plausibility
Error will not cause a warning light
Error is not currently present
Test conditions have been completed

Freeze Frame Information*

Odometer 77168kms 47949miles
Engine speed 1,344.00 rpm
torque interference via CAN 128.00 -
voltage Kl. 87 11.78 V
status motor control 2.00 0-n

Event 2*
Odometer 77216kms 47979miles
Engine speed 1,312.00 rpm
torque interference via CAN 128.00 -
voltage Kl. 87 11.88 V
status motor control 2.00 0-n

Event 3*
Odometer 77920kms 48417miles
Engine speed 1,408.00 rpm
torque interference via CAN 128.00 -
voltage Kl. 87 11.68 V
status motor control 2.00 0-n

Glowin · 06-22-2011, 09:06 PM

Wierd. The 2DC5 code has only been mentioned on this forum a handful of times, and in two cases, Shiv pointed out that it's not tune related necessarily, as you can see that it's thrown at idle-like RPM's.

Have you contacted Cobb to get their response?

bkrM3 · 06-23-2011, 06:21 AM

I just did a full uninstall of mine and will scan today or tomorrow. So far only two people have weighed in on post-uninstall codes/shadow codes. I'll let you know what happens with mine as soon as I find out. I have a 6MT, not sure if that makes a difference... I'm not suuuuuper worried but I'd rather be safe than sorry since it's going in for misfires (that, btw, are totally not related to Cobb. BMW software is asshole).

etichi · 06-23-2011, 08:49 AM

COBB states to drive around for 2 days after an un-install. Do think these codes may clear with time?

TunedM2C · 06-23-2011, 10:56 AM

^ Seriously?

COBB Tuning · 06-23-2011, 12:23 PM

Immediately after un-installing, there should be no codes. It's always a good idea to make sure you are on the latest firmware as this may fix this issue. To check your firmware, got to AccessPORT on the Main Menu, then About. The latest release is 1.6.3.2-2007 and you can update your AccessPORT using AP Manager. If you are seeing codes after an un-install and are on the latest firmware, please let us know! We'll happily work with you to test some changes to make this won't continue to happen.

- Ian

mithiral67 · 06-23-2011, 12:33 PM

So I understand, the AP should be clearing all codes, not just drive train?

COBB Tuning · 06-23-2011, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithiral67

So I understand, the AP should be clearing all codes, not just drive train?

It should be, yes. When the install or un-install process takes place, the ECU is reset which clears engine and all module codes.

- Ian

onebadmofo · 06-23-2011, 01:22 PM

I had to clear a code yesterday right after uninstalling COBB. The guy drove over specifically to check if there any codes after uninstalling it and there was a single code for DME (don't remember exactly, something minor) and about 4-6 for the DSC module.
I'm using INPA and it doesn't explain the codes, just the codes themselves.

Bleep · 06-23-2011, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadmofo

I had to clear a code yesterday right after uninstalling COBB. The guy drove over specifically to check if there any codes after uninstalling it and there was a single code for DME (don't remember exactly, something minor) and about 4-6 for the DSC module.
I'm using INPA and it doesn't explain the codes, just the codes themselves.

To clarify the DME code was P2F71: "e-box fan control".

krypt0 · 06-24-2011, 12:48 AM

I just found out I was using the older Firmware v1.6.3.2-1405, and not the latest. I just updated to the latest version 1.6.3.2-2007, and I'm pretty confident no codes will be lingering around after AP uninstall this time...

bkrM3 · 06-24-2011, 01:41 PM

Just to contribute my experience - I just had my car scanned. I have had the Cobb installed since the major firmware update that added 2007 support (I think it was released in February or March, 2011 but didn't look it up) and have not updated the firmware since then. I did a complete uninstall for the first time about a week and a half ago.

My car is a 6MT.

My uninstall was totally clean, BT showed no codes or shadow codes.

COBB Tuning · 06-24-2011, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krypt0

I just found out I was using the older Firmware v1.6.3.2-1405, and not the latest. I just updated to the latest version 1.6.3.2-2007, and I'm pretty confident no codes will be lingering around after AP uninstall this time...

Let me know how your next un-install turns out!

Ian

Bleep · 06-24-2011, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning

Immediately after un-installing, there should be no codes. It's always a good idea to make sure you are on the latest firmware as this may fix this issue. To check your firmware, got to AccessPORT on the Main Menu, then About. The latest release is 1.6.3.2-2007 and you can update your AccessPORT using AP Manager. If you are seeing codes after an un-install and are on the latest firmware, please let us know! We'll happily work with you to test some changes to make this won't continue to happen.

- Ian

Just checked the firmware I used when I uninstalled and was left with the above codes - 1.6.3.2-1830. Were there any code clearing related firmware updates since then?

hp jnkey · 07-01-2011, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBB Tuning

Let me know how your next un-install turns out!

Ian

Uninstalled the tune yesterday. Looks like all systems are OK.
Took about 10 minutes.
Can't wait to get the car back from the dealer so I can reinstall the tune.
Just isn't the same car.

BobS · 07-01-2011, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hp jnkey

I bought a used BT Scan tool with 2 empty Vin's , but I need to figure out how to use it.
Any tips?

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/

They have info on the website or a support call in number. Give it a whirl.

AaronLBeltran · 07-28-2011, 11:32 AM

For the people who had an old firmware version and had problems with codes showing up, have you had any codes show up after installing the latest firmware?

lunchbox · 01-05-2013, 03:14 PM

Has there been an updated version to this thread. Did the recent firmware resolve the shadow code issue?

06-22-2011, 05:04 PM	#23
O HELLA BMW I <3 My E93 180 Rep 3,259 Posts Drives: 12” 335is vert Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: PA iTrader: (21)	Here's my shadow codes after I uninstalled my cobb Current Shadow Fault Codes 2DC5: 2DC5 Torque requirement via CAN controller area network, plausibility Error will not cause a warning light Error is not currently present Test conditions have been completed Freeze Frame Information* Odometer 77168kms 47949miles Engine speed 1,344.00 rpm torque interference via CAN 128.00 - voltage Kl. 87 11.78 V status motor control 2.00 0-n Event 2* Odometer 77216kms 47979miles Engine speed 1,312.00 rpm torque interference via CAN 128.00 - voltage Kl. 87 11.88 V status motor control 2.00 0-n Event 3* Odometer 77920kms 48417miles Engine speed 1,408.00 rpm torque interference via CAN 128.00 - voltage Kl. 87 11.68 V status motor control 2.00 0-n __________________ Bagged and Wrapped E93 335i
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06-22-2011, 09:06 PM	#24
Glowin Captain 73 Rep 978 Posts Drives: X3 35 & 335i now - M2/M4 next? Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	Wierd. The 2DC5 code has only been mentioned on this forum a handful of times, and in two cases, Shiv pointed out that it's not tune related necessarily, as you can see that it's thrown at idle-like RPM's. Have you contacted Cobb to get their response?
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06-23-2011, 06:21 AM	#25
bkrM3 Major 73 Rep 1,388 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Main Line iTrader: (9) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [9.50]	I just did a full uninstall of mine and will scan today or tomorrow. So far only two people have weighed in on post-uninstall codes/shadow codes. I'll let you know what happens with mine as soon as I find out. I have a 6MT, not sure if that makes a difference... I'm not suuuuuper worried but I'd rather be safe than sorry since it's going in for misfires (that, btw, are totally not related to Cobb. BMW software is asshole). __________________ E90 M3 Space/Fox/6MT E92 335i BSM/Saddle/6MT - Sold
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06-23-2011, 08:49 AM	#26
etichi Slow,fast,slow, then you die. 12 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 335i 07,AA short shifter, COBB Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orlando iTrader: (1)	COBB states to drive around for 2 days after an un-install. Do think these codes may clear with time?
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06-23-2011, 10:56 AM	#27
TunedM2C Brigadier General 829 Rep 4,190 Posts Drives: 2016 LBB M2 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth iTrader: (2)	^ Seriously?
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06-23-2011, 12:23 PM	#28
COBB Tuning Major 233 Rep 1,051 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	Immediately after un-installing, there should be no codes. It's always a good idea to make sure you are on the latest firmware as this may fix this issue. To check your firmware, got to AccessPORT on the Main Menu, then About. The latest release is 1.6.3.2-2007 and you can update your AccessPORT using AP Manager. If you are seeing codes after an un-install and are on the latest firmware, please let us know! We'll happily work with you to test some changes to make this won't continue to happen. - Ian Last edited by COBB Tuning; 06-23-2011 at 12:29 PM..
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mithiral67 That guy 117 Rep 5,740 Posts Drives: 2015 Cayman GTS Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (4) Garage List 2015 Porsche Cayman ... [0.00]	So I understand, the AP should be clearing all codes, not just drive train?
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06-23-2011, 01:22 PM	#31
onebadmofo Colonel 346 Rep 2,396 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Central NJ iTrader: (14)	I had to clear a code yesterday right after uninstalling COBB. The guy drove over specifically to check if there any codes after uninstalling it and there was a single code for DME (don't remember exactly, something minor) and about 4-6 for the DSC module. I'm using INPA and it doesn't explain the codes, just the codes themselves.
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06-24-2011, 12:48 AM	#33
krypt0 Your Text Here 5 Rep 153 Posts Drives: E90 335i, B9S4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	I just found out I was using the older Firmware v1.6.3.2-1405, and not the latest. I just updated to the latest version 1.6.3.2-2007, and I'm pretty confident no codes will be lingering around after AP uninstall this time...
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06-24-2011, 01:41 PM	#34
bkrM3 Major 73 Rep 1,388 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Main Line iTrader: (9) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [9.50]	Just to contribute my experience - I just had my car scanned. I have had the Cobb installed since the major firmware update that added 2007 support (I think it was released in February or March, 2011 but didn't look it up) and have not updated the firmware since then. I did a complete uninstall for the first time about a week and a half ago. My car is a 6MT. My uninstall was totally clean, BT showed no codes or shadow codes. __________________ E90 M3 Space/Fox/6MT E92 335i BSM/Saddle/6MT - Sold
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07-28-2011, 11:32 AM	#39
AaronLBeltran Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 225 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NoVA iTrader: (0)	For the people who had an old firmware version and had problems with codes showing up, have you had any codes show up after installing the latest firmware?
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01-05-2013, 03:14 PM	#40
lunchbox Private 7 Rep 66 Posts Drives: 335i X drive Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: MA - USA - EARTH iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW X3 335 [0.00] 2013 335xi [0.00]	Has there been an updated version to this thread. Did the recent firmware resolve the shadow code issue?
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