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      08-18-2014, 05:56 AM   #1
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FS: RB Turbo & BMW OEM turbo install hardware

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that I'm supporting Rob Beck with the distribution of RB turbochargers and associated RB Turbo hardware within Australia.

I can supply a brand new set of RB turbochargers and a complete BMW OEM turbo install kit to you or directly to your workshop if preferred.

The turbos are available for $4,149 and the install kit will cost $319.

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The first two pics are a comparison of a new'ish OEM TD03 turbocharger and a mint condition TD04 "hybrid" from RB Turbo with a TD04-15T compressor wheel and TD04L exhaust wheel.

N.B. whist there is no core charge associated with the purchase of the RBs, you will be required to send me your old OEM turbos once your mechanic has installed the RBs. This process keeps your car on the road whilst awaiting the arrival of your turbos and negates the hassles associated with the shipment of your cores to and from Rob in the US.

Rob has recently purchased a state-of-the-art VSR (Vibration Sorting Rig) to allow precision balancing of the CHRA/cartridge. Whilst RB's are known for their durability the new VSR balancing procedure will further increase the reliability of RB's within high boost applications.

I have also attached pic of a balancing report illustrating the end result of a VSR balanced cartridge on 3 consecutive runs from 20K to 170K rpm and the VSR itself.

Cheers,

Justin.

P.S. all amounts are in AUD with no GST component included.
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      09-15-2014, 06:16 AM   #2
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Are you also offering some packages with installation etc?
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YAY im going to wait for teh super Rbs
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      09-16-2014, 01:25 AM   #5
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Haha for a second I thought install was $279.

Good deal - may consider it when my stock turbos go..
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      09-16-2014, 07:11 AM   #6
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Are you also offering some packages with installation etc?
Hey mate,

I can recommend a workshop within Melbourne for installation, they have experience with fitment of RB turbochargers.

I can also supply you with engine oil/OEM filter and OEM coolant (or any other serviceable items you require) but the labour component of the turbo install is set by the workshop.

However if by chance two Melbourne based customers were upgrading to RB's around the same time, I "might" be able to twist their arm to offer a discount over their normal labour rate.

Cheers,

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YAY im going to wait for teh super Rbs
I probably should be posting this in my other thread, but as you have expressed interest in Super RB's here ya go...

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The above pic (from right to left) illustrates the comparative size of the exhaust turbines on BMW OEM TD03/stock turbos (TD03L wheel), RB's (TD04L wheel), Super RB's (TD04HL wheel).

Also here is little bit of info from the 135i owner in the US who has the prototype set of Super RB's installed...

Anyways, here is a quick update on the car. The meth issue ended up taking me most of the day and was resolved once I pulled the kit, cleaned everything, and then made some adjustments for a better line route. First pull with 100% meth I hit about 26lbs and my jaw dropped!

I think that with my current fueling, the car is going to be in the 25lbs mid tapering to 21lbs once things are all worked out. If I can upgrade the HPFP I do not see any reason we wont see 28-30 up top!!!

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Haha for a second I thought install was $279.

Good deal - may consider it when my stock turbos go..
Cool, no problem.
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@JD75 can you please tell me abit more about the super rbs? how will they fit? do i have to move or change anything? im currently running vrsf cdps. do i have to replace them with something else? and are they priced similarly to the original rbs? can you also estimate a release date?

thanks for your response
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      09-17-2014, 04:42 AM   #10
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RB's are unreal, cant wait for super RB's. 10 sec car will be fun.
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      09-17-2014, 08:21 AM   #11
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@JD75 can you please tell me abit more about the super rbs? how will they fit? do i have to move or change anything? im currently running vrsf cdps. do i have to replace them with something else? and are they priced similarly to the original rbs? can you also estimate a release date?

thanks for your response
The Super RB's are essentially RB's on steroids, with modern turbocharger tech to boot.

The exhaust housing has been further modified to accommodate the somewhat larger 9 blade (modern aero) TD04HL turbine wheel, and the induction neck or snout on the compressor housing has been re-sleeved to allow for the use of the 19T billet compressor wheel. The re-sleeve will allow Rob to use as much as a 22T or 23T wheel size should he feel the 19T is undersized for the TD04HL turbine.

The Super RB's are direct bolt up, just like regular RB's. The catless downpipes you have will be fine providing they are a true 3" DP.

According to Rob "ballpark pricing" for "Super's" (my term not Rob's ) will be $4,250 USD, with RB's staying at their current price of $3,000 USD.

As far as a release date goes Rob is staying pretty tight lipped about that, other than saying... "That said it will be every bit of 60 days before they are set to general availability." It will all depend upon how the prototype sets perform in the hands of the US testers. As I mentioned he may feel that the 19T comp wheel is not ideally suited to the large TD04HL turbine, which would require further machining of the comp housing/snout for the larger 21T wheel, then additional testing and so forth.

One thing to note guys is that Super RB's are going to flow a lot more air, with that comes increased demands on the fueling system to maintain safe AFR's. To reap the benefits of Super's over regular RB's you will need as a minimum a LPFP upgrade and a Meth' injection system that is working very well, to overcome the flow limitations of the standard HPFP. If you want to run a high percentage of E85 or 100% E85 for that matter you will need to upgrade the HPFP too. Lastly the 6 speed manual transmission guys will most likely require an upgraded clutch/flywheel and as for the Steptronic/DCT guys, well I'm not sure how the box will handle the extra power/torque the Super's will be capable of producing.

Cheers,

JD.

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Any News Regarding Super Rbs?
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DCT guys, well I'm not sure how the box will handle the extra power/torque the Super's will be capable of producing.

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That made me sad
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too much power makes me sad too
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Any News Regarding Super Rbs?
Unfortunately not, sorry mate I have nothing new to report at this stage.

Rob has become super tight lipped about the prototype testing that has been going on. I believe he has been absolutely hammered by enquiries from around the globe regarding the Super RBs and it has taken away from the hours he has in a day to manufacture his standard upgraded turbos.

I suspect he would like all the hoopla to die away until he has a finished saleable turbocharger, that way he can also focus on meeting the demands of his current customers as apposed to spending countless hours fielding email enquiries and phone calls about a product that has not yet been finalised.

Trust me guys as soon as I have some info that is exciting and not considered to be confidential I will be the first to share.

Cheers,

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How much power do RB turbos add compared to stock??
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How much power do RB turbos add compared to stock??
http://www.burgertuning.com/jb4_pnp_...nce_tuner.html

google mayne
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I said RB turbos....NOT jb4
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How much power do RB turbos add compared to stock??
10-12% increase
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      10-19-2014, 07:20 AM   #20
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How much power do RB turbos add compared to stock??
With proper tuning you should see around a 50rwkW delta with RBs over stock turbos, more if you tune for "kill mode" with RBs.

However the peak power figure doesn't tell the whole story, as they hold power to redline far better than OEM turbos and are also capable of significantly more midrange torque if tuned accordingly.

Attached is a pre & post dyno overlay of a RB customer from Melbourne. Whilst the results are very good indeed, given that he is running E60 he has left a few kilowatts on the table as boost taper between 4,500rpm and 6,000rpm could be less aggressive.

Cheers,

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yeah shows u in that link
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yeah shows u in that link
+1 I don't think he bothered to look. Seems to me he read "JB4" on the link and just commented!
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