V2.02.02 dyno w/ BMC filter

ArmyBimmerDude · 12-15-2007, 06:33 PM

Great! Glad I got it.

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:33 PM

u think it might be bcus mine is AT and it downshifted many times

OpenFlash · 12-15-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

u think it might be bcus mine is AT and it downshifted many times

Yep... They didn't know how to dyno it. That's why the operator didn't go full throttle and that's why your results are miserable. They need to fully disable DTC before you get on the rollers. And then the need to start the run, like normal, at 2000-2500 in 4th gear, in DS/Manual mode. The operator can go full throttle (right up to the point of the kickdown switch). The car will stay in gear all the way to 7000rpm.

Get your money back.

Shiv

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:40 PM

ok when do you have the new map available? i'll dyno it again, sigh

OpenFlash · 12-15-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

ok when do you have the new map available? i'll dyno it again, sigh

What new map?

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:43 PM

2.02.03

OpenFlash · 12-15-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

2.02.03

Not for a while. Don't you want to re-dyno the current map properly? I assume you paid for the dyno run. Might as well get it done right.

Shiv

Cookiemonster · 12-15-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

ok when do you have the new map available? i'll dyno it again, sigh

I say no new maps at least til all the first day orders for v2 have been filled!

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:47 PM

i'll wait for the new map (hope it will be the combination of v1.4 and v2) and re-dyno. rather save $80...

OpenFlash · 12-15-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ontopofm

i'll wait for the new map (hope it will be the combination of v1.4 and v2) and re-dyno. rather save $80...

At least get your $80 back. You paid for a service (a proper dyno test) and you didn't get it. I hate it when customers get jacked like this.

radgator1 · 12-15-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Maybe that Hamann pedal is preventing full throttle

Seriously though, just the fact the dyno operator started the run at nearly 4000rpm tells me that someone doesn't know what they are doing. Go somewhere else. That run is a joke.

Shiv

Actually, that is a good point. Pedal sets with long screws can make it so the car can't go WOT. If you have an aftermarket pedal set you need to cut the excess screw on the accelerator pedal in most cases. Not sure if that is what is causing this problem but it would be funny if it was

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:56 PM

i dont know if they will re-dyno for free of charge. i hate to drive back there (45 min distance) and fight over the dyno numbers. but thanks shiv. we'll see what the numbers be like with the upcoming map

ontopofm · 12-15-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by radgator1

Actually, that is a good point. Pedal sets with long screws can make it so the car can't go WOT. If you have an aftermarket pedal set you need to cut the excess screw on the accelerator pedal in most cases. Not sure if that is what is causing this problem but it would be funny if it was

i'm gonna run outside to check on the pedals to see if it is the screws that caused it...i'll be damned if it is

haha, yeah right...the screws barely go past the rubber pedal

ArmyBimmerDude · 12-16-2007, 09:34 AM

I wanted to bump this thread up instead of making a new one because of the BMC air filter. Ontopofm is absolutely right, the responsiveness of the car is so much better now, its the best $80 I coulda spent for the car. When I take off in 1st, you can just feel its so much easier.

Go to the vendor section and buy the filder. You wont regret it.

ontopofm · 12-16-2007, 12:36 PM

here are my datalogs from last night, i thought i pulled all the way to redline on 3rd gear on run 3 but it's not appeared to be so. shiv, what do these say about my car? something wrong with the car or the dyno operator didn't do it properly? i'm at 92% across the board on 91 octane

e.n335 · 12-16-2007, 01:01 PM

You have too less boost, except in the last chart. Before we talk about boost leaks let's talk about the OEM diverter valves. Can they be the problem ?

rideelement247 · 12-16-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

You have too less boost, except in the last chart. Before we talk about boost leaks let's talk about the OEM diverter valves. Can they be the problem ?

+1

I was wondering why it looked like he was only at 11 or 12 psi.

FORGE DV'S FTW!!!

Btw, when are the forge DVs coming out?

e.n335 · 12-16-2007, 01:24 PM

Comparison: This is sflgator's boost curve:

I think I need diverter valves as well

In fact I ordered them already.

rideelement247 · 12-16-2007, 01:28 PM

Has Forge released them yet? Will they fit with a Stage 2 MSDS intake?

e.n335 · 12-16-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rideelement247

Has Forge released them yet? Will they fit with a Stage 2 MSDS intake?

No, nothing is released. They just know to send a pair of them when they are ready. No idea about the intake. I bought an ITG filter from Vishnu. Car feels good with the filter.

midlife · 12-16-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Get your money back.

Shiv

bump

hotrod182 · 12-16-2007, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

I wanted to bump this thread up instead of making a new one because of the BMC air filter. Ontopofm is absolutely right, the responsiveness of the car is so much better now, its the best $80 I coulda spent for the car. When I take off in 1st, you can just feel its so much easier.

Go to the vendor section and buy the filder. You wont regret it.

So looking at the 2 lines of the first dyno, the only difference is the air filter? While the improvment in peak HP is nice, does it really kill your low end as the dyno depicts. And the times it dips below the stock air filter dyno in other areas? You would think it would be a consistant overall improvement. It looks like the stock airfilter dyno is way ahead till 4500rpm or so (90% of our driving!). Just dyno inconsistancies?

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ontopofm Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,548 Posts Drives: stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (4)	here are my datalogs from last night, i thought i pulled all the way to redline on 3rd gear on run 3 but it's not appeared to be so. shiv, what do these say about my car? something wrong with the car or the dyno operator didn't do it properly? i'm at 92% across the board on 91 octane Attached Images
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