Track tires need advise

bartman32 · 03-30-2008, 04:26 PM

Okay folks. My Toyo T1-S's are now just about gone. I need a new set of tires and don't want to do top dollar anymore. I also don't want to go R Compound yet because I typically change rims and tires about a week or so before and after an event so these tire do get some regular street use. Any suggestions on what I should move to?

Thanks everyone!

2e9x's · 03-30-2008, 09:34 PM

Take a look at the Dunlop Direzza Z1 Star Spec and the new Toyo R1R.

Ray · 03-31-2008, 01:11 AM

Toyo R1R

They are very limited in sizes, but fortunately offer plenty of options in 18" for this car.

ToddPhilly · 04-01-2008, 11:39 AM

See my review of the Dunlop Direzza Z1 from the wheels & tires forum:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=direzza

I highly recommend this tire!

e92phreak · 04-01-2008, 11:45 AM

BTW, until June, Toyo has a rebate on its tires too.

shimshimhada · 04-02-2008, 12:30 AM

Anyone know for sure how the R1R stacks up against the StarSpec?

2e9x's · 04-02-2008, 07:32 AM

I never came across a direct comparison between the R1R and the Z1. However the folks at SCCAForums.com did not seem that impressed with the R1R so I stayed away. It is amazing the amount of time and energy those folks spend on testing tires...

Randy there is a place in Long Beach that sells the R1R ( http://www.performanceplustire.com ) for a decent price. They also carry the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta which is very reasonably priced and is getting great reviews. I ALMOST went with those but ultimately was swayed by the performance of the Z1 Star Specs...

bartman32 · 04-02-2008, 10:04 AM

Thanks Randy but I'm leaning toward the Dunlop especially since Toyo doesn't make a R1R that is the same size I'm current running on the track. 225/45/17. Just how loud are the dulops? I read that it's really annoying. Your thoughts?

sg335 · 04-02-2008, 11:52 PM

Falken RT615

shimshimhada · 04-02-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sg335

Falken RT615

RT615s get a little greasy for track duty.

2e9x's · 04-03-2008, 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartman32

Thanks Randy but I'm leaning toward the Dunlop especially since Toyo doesn't make a R1R that is the same size I'm current running on the track. 225/45/17. Just how loud are the dulops? I read that it's really annoying. Your thoughts?

They go on tomorrow...I stalled to try to do some testing with my GTech Pro before installation but work has been too hectic and I can't find a place to do the lateral g testing legally and safely.

When I spoke with Gary at the Tire Rack he told me to expect noise levels to be approximately the same as the RFT's. We spent quite a lot of time talking about this issue since I once put Dunlop FM-901's on my WRX wagon and the noise from those was unbearable. Gary told me that the Z1 was nowhere near that and should be ok. I'll let you know tomorrow...

2e9x's · 04-03-2008, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

RT615s get a little greasy for track duty.

True enough but on the plus side in the size Randy is looking for they are only about $105/tire...At the same price point is the Hankook RS2 Z212. Take a look at http://www.edgeracing.com for more information...

One interesting note from the edgeracing site is that the Hankooks are 2.4 lbs/tire lighter than the RT615...

Steven335xi · 04-03-2008, 07:57 AM

I have run on both the Toyo's and RT-615. I liked them both too.

But I was amazed by my set of Hankook R-S2 Z212's!

Feffman · 04-05-2008, 07:49 AM

Give Eric at Frisby Tire (www.FrisbyRaceTire.com) a call (800) 798-7201. He'll give you some good insight on Toyo, Hankook and Hoosier. I run the Hoosier R6 and they are great.

Feff
www.MVPTrackTime.com

M3to335 · 04-05-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

RT615s get a little greasy for track duty.

They seem to hold their own for about 25~30min then they get greasy. I suppose its all course dependant as well. Im happy so far though

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bartman32 Colonel 101 Rep 2,317 Posts Drives: F87 M2 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The OC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 M2 [0.00]	Track tires need advise Okay folks. My Toyo T1-S's are now just about gone. I need a new set of tires and don't want to do top dollar anymore. I also don't want to go R Compound yet because I typically change rims and tires about a week or so before and after an event so these tire do get some regular street use. Any suggestions on what I should move to? Thanks everyone!
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Ray Member 306 Rep 22,825 Posts Drives: three series Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sfCA iTrader: (0)	Toyo R1R They are very limited in sizes, but fortunately offer plenty of options in 18" for this car.
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2e9x's Major 50 Rep 1,137 Posts Drives: 335i ED 7/07 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: A Sunny Place iTrader: (2)	I never came across a direct comparison between the R1R and the Z1. However the folks at SCCAForums.com did not seem that impressed with the R1R so I stayed away. It is amazing the amount of time and energy those folks spend on testing tires... Randy there is a place in Long Beach that sells the R1R ( http://www.performanceplustire.com ) for a decent price. They also carry the Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta which is very reasonably priced and is getting great reviews. I ALMOST went with those but ultimately was swayed by the performance of the Z1 Star Specs... __________________ 2010 Evo X - silver with a big, stupid wing on the back 2009 VW CC - Black/Black - with a 2011 328i on order to replace it - ED 8/1/11
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bartman32 Colonel 101 Rep 2,317 Posts Drives: F87 M2 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The OC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 M2 [0.00]	Thanks Randy but I'm leaning toward the Dunlop especially since Toyo doesn't make a R1R that is the same size I'm current running on the track. 225/45/17. Just how loud are the dulops? I read that it's really annoying. Your thoughts?
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Steven335xi New Member 0 Rep 26 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335xi Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Omaha, NE iTrader: (1)	I have run on both the Toyo's and RT-615. I liked them both too. But I was amazed by my set of Hankook R-S2 Z212's! __________________ 2008 E92 335xi Jet Black/Black Dakota/Cold Weather/Premium/Sport/Steptronic w/paddles/Comfort Access Mods: Dual Exhaust, Rear Fogs, GP Thunder 7500k Cornering & Halo
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