[Cypress]

Thinking about shooting an offer for an '09 335i e90 nicely loaded with manual, sports, premium, comfort, nav, logic7, dcc, etc. It's a CPO with about 35k miles and the dealer is asking a stiff $37k or so. Area searches show it's just one of a few 335i's with manual/sports available in my 500 mile radius and it's by far and away, the best equipped of them all.

KBB is suggesting it's worth somewhere in the $33k area. When I called the dealership the sales guy said he maybe able to come down a little in price but gave me the "this is a rare fully loaded manual" speech and added "it's a CPO so of course it's over book value."

My first question is does the fact that it's a CPO make it worth more than what kbb and other book values suggest?

This would be my first bmw and I'm a little torn between buying a used CPO to get my feet wet or perhaps jumping straight in and picking up a '12 on lease. I don't mind used as long as it's clean and not totally clapped out.

I like the tunability potential of the n54 but wouldnt mind the increased peace of mind reliability of the n55.

Definitely want to drive down, test drive it and check it out but I think $37k is a little out of whack. Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

[andybui82]

id do it. get it lowered to about 35. and purchase that immediately.

[X.X.I.V]

Theses cars are getting harder to find. Its a supply and demand thing.
Your price sounds in line. tell him youll give 33500?
I just got mine last week same year and options and miles minus the logic 7 starting price was 35990. We got down to 34700, I told him to give me the good rubber bmw mats and an M jacket and it would be a deal.
Make sure they fax over something before you go out there that has the numbers if they can't do that their not being honest about something.

[Cypress]

Alright I'm going to head in this morning and see what I can hammer out. I've got end of month and memorial on my side so we'll see what happens.

[BayMoWe335]

Seems expensive for an 09 sedan with 35k miles. Fully loaded means nothing to me. If that's important to you, go for it.

I'd offer about 30.

[Cypress]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Seems expensive for an 09 sedan with 35k miles. Fully loaded means nothing to me. If that's important to you, go for it.

I'd offer about 30.

Fully loaded doesn't mean much to me either, but combining that with the manual tranny is what's really attractive, and unfortunately, much more rare, even for cali. Cars equipped like this are out there but they dont sit on lots for long and the dealers know that. This car was just listed a week ago.

Manual, sports package, aluminum trim, and CPO are my requirements. The fact that it has premium, comfort, navi, adaptive cruise, and logic 7 are all just nice bonuses that I'm sure i'll grow to appreciate.

I agree though, 35k is too much regardless. We'll see how far I can get them to go...

Thanks again for the input guys

[Cypress]

Got it!

After some tough negotiating including walking out twice....ended up talking them down to $32k and they wouldnt go a dime less. Very satisfied with the purchase and had a blast driving it home this afternoon. Looking forward to learning more about the car and community.

Here are some pics:

Gets the daughter vote of approval

[bmwaddict]

really sweet man

[HTMBmw]

Congratz on the beauty

[BMW Junge für Leben]

Good choice man! You got a good deal at 32

[ThreePedAlways]

Nice car and nice work! I think you did well for the equipment level and the rarity of the manual.

I picked up basically the same CPO 09 335 (silver+black), 38k mi, manual, premium, sport, CA, but without nav, aluminum trim, or dcc about a month ago for ~$29.5k. When they would not go any lower, I got them to throw in some rubber mats (I'm in MI) and made the deal. My dealer originally wanted $34.5k

Our cars are getting harder to find. Gotta jump before they disappear. Mine was on the lot for about a month before I moved. In April there were 3 09-10 335 manual e90 CPOs with a reasonable distance of me and they all disappeared fairly quick. I got the last of the 3. My dealer's inability to correctly specify a transmission on the BMW CPO site probably helped my cause.

I'm envious of your aluminum trim! It's sharp...does anyone want some wood trim? . $800 on Tischer is tough to swallow for trim though.

Happy driving! Enjoy!

[mo2566]

Originally Posted by Cypress

Got it!

After some tough negotiating including walking out twice....ended up talking them down to $32k and they wouldnt go a dime less. Very satisfied with the purchase and had a blast driving it home this afternoon. Looking forward to learning more about the car and community.

Thats a good deal, CPO price on KBB is 34,335 ish, congrats!

[Cypress]

Thanks guys, really enjoying the car. Only getting 18mpg though...hope that gets better but at least I'm grinning the whole time!

Originally Posted by ThreePedAlways

Our cars are getting harder to find. Gotta jump before they disappear.

Exactly. I think there were no more than 5 6mt CPO 335i e90s in the entire state of Ca. A lot more were listed, but when I checked pictures, most were, in fact, autos. One dealer in particular incorrectly labeled all of their auto tranny's manuals which kinda pissed me off. Despite being desperate for a manual, I managed to put on my poker face during negotiating and pretended that didnt really matter. lol

Originally Posted by mo2566

Thats a good deal, CPO price on KBB is 34,335 ish, congrats!

That sounds about right. I got it down to about 34k even and they refused to go lower. I almost agreed but then after some more thought, got up and walked away. They came after me in the lot and we sat back down and hammered off another 1600 or so to close the deal.

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by Cypress

Fully loaded doesn't mean much to me either, but combining that with the manual tranny is what's really attractive, and unfortunately, much more rare, even for cali. Cars equipped like this are out there but they dont sit on lots for long and the dealers know that. This car was just listed a week ago.

Manual, sports package, aluminum trim, and CPO are my requirements. The fact that it has premium, comfort, navi, adaptive cruise, and logic 7 are all just nice bonuses that I'm sure i'll grow to appreciate.

I agree though, 35k is too much regardless. We'll see how far I can get them to go...

Thanks again for the input guys

Just FYI, i was $44k out the door for a brand new (1 mile) manual, Logic 7, Sports package, and aluminum trim ordered directly from Germany. I think that puts into perspective how insane $35k is, especially when that's not even out the door.

[Cypress]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Just FYI, i was $44k out the door for a brand new (1 mile) manual, Logic 7, Sports package, and aluminum trim ordered directly from Germany. I think that puts into perspective how insane $35k is, especially when that's not even out the door.

I agree, good thing I didn't pay 35.

32k though, is not insane imo...for an lci that includes the packages you mentioned + navi, premium, comfort, etc...well below blue book and just fine for a CPO with 3+ year / 100,000 mile warranty.

[PR3CI5N]

Nice negotiating!! Congrats! Enjoy that baby. Order a JB4 tomorrow

[Cypress]

Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

Nice negotiating!! Congrats! Enjoy that baby. Order a JB4 tomorrow

Not sure if that's a great idea or not, I don't need more points on my record. lol

[benzy89]

Originally Posted by Cypress

Not sure if that's a great idea or not, I don't need more points on my record. lol

lol points aren't good, but if you get a tune, accidently go overboard & go FBO, 5-0 won't be able to keep up with you

[PR3CI5N]

Yeah I feel u but a JB4 makes a 335 twice as much fun to drive. It's the best mod u can do to a N54.

Originally Posted by Cypress

Not sure if that's a great idea or not, I don't need more points on my record. lol

[ZixxSpeed]

I paid $32k for mine cpo 32,XXX miles, nav,sport,coldweather packages, same exact car as yours except its 6AT