Scirocco 2.0T DSG vs 330d Auto

TMP · 04-02-2009, 03:33 AM

Been a few times now in a mate’s 2.0T DSG – I am so impressed with the DSG box, the changes are so much quicker than a slush when under full throttle, almost instant – stunning!

After he drop’s me off we have a quick run on a dual carriage way. He got the jump on me, but in summary the Scirocco seems as quick as the 330d to about 70, perhaps the 330d started to catch slightly, but we didn’t go above legal speeds.

I thought the 330d would be much quicker, but looking at parkers its 6.6s (330d) vs 6.8s so there isn’t much in it. ..

booforty · 04-02-2009, 03:38 AM

Is your 330d remapped or stock?

TMP · 04-02-2009, 03:43 AM

Stock..

...although I now think remap is moving up the list

TK - 421 · 04-02-2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TMP

Stock..

...although I now think remap is moving up the list

Do it do it do it.....did i say do it!!!

TMP · 04-02-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Anygreg

Do it do it do it.....did i say do it!!!

So it take it you happy with your map, who did it?

booforty · 04-02-2009, 06:20 AM

You need a remap and then the VW won't even be close

MOB · 04-02-2009, 07:12 AM

I'm assuming the Scirroco would be a fair bit lighter than the 330d?

If you are thinking about a remap, just do it - the 330d is so much better afterwards

Mine was done by Evolve and chucks out around 300bhp and 500lbs

creepy coupe · 04-02-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by booforty

You need a remap and then the VW won't even be close

Until it's also remapped.

TMP · 04-02-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MOB

I'm assuming the Scirroco would be a fair bit lighter than the 330d?

If you are thinking about a remap, just do it - the 330d is so much better afterwards

Mine was done by Evolve and chucks out around 300bhp and 500lbs

I am really tempted by Evolve - just the fact they are 150 miles away if I have a problem or need to have map re-applied. That is an awesome power uplift

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Until it's also remapped.

Yeap - we are both talking about mapping after yesterday, maybe get a couple of Bluefins!

EDIT - this is my 200th post

creepy coupe · 04-02-2009, 08:15 AM

Regal Autosport in Southampton do a very nice map for the 2.0 VW FSI engine.

rup · 04-02-2009, 01:51 PM

I think you have to look at stock and not re-maps as the scirocco can be re-mapped too.

dxb335d · 04-02-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Until it's also remapped.

and then it will be close again.

Gibbo · 04-02-2009, 02:17 PM

One of my mates is looking to buy the Scirroco at the mo. I keep seeing more on the roads and the more I see the more I like.

Snooky · 04-02-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbo

One of my mates is looking to buy the Scirroco at the mo. I keep seeing more on the roads and the more I see the more I like.

+1 I love 'em Gibbo.

Saw a lovely white one today in Birmingham with the panoramic roof. Would defo consider it in a couple of years when the e92 lease is up.

dxb335d · 04-02-2009, 02:30 PM

Shame there FWD.

Gibbo · 04-02-2009, 02:36 PM

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Shame there FWD.

Yes it's a good point but I guess most people who buy them have never driven RWD.

TMP · 04-02-2009, 02:59 PM

Yep, as I said I am v.impressed with it, and this one is a Black

Its also about £10k less than a 330 M!....

....but it still aint no BM

pjs · 04-04-2009, 06:52 AM

Had a DSG Golf GTi for about a year at same time as my 330d.

My 'comparison' road (i.e round a corner as fast as you dare, nailing it to until a certain point) had the 330d about 5mph quicker at 90mph.

DSG gearbox fantastic, could play with those flaps all day long

Think the Scirrcco got a few more bhp than the golf, but against the new 330d the bmw would have the edge.

illingworth22 · 04-04-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anygreg

Do it do it do it.....did i say do it!!!

Who did your Map?

illingworth22 · 04-04-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pjs

Had a DSG Golf GTi for about a year at same time as my 330d.

My 'comparison' road (i.e round a corner as fast as you dare, nailing it to until a certain point) had the 330d about 5mph quicker at 90mph.

DSG gearbox fantastic, could play with those flaps all day long

Think the Scirrcco got a few more bhp than the golf, but against the new 330d the bmw would have the edge.

Golf & Sirrocco have the same engine, but the S will possibly be a tad quicker due to its shape. I had a GTi remapped to 250bhp and it was very quick. The Edition 30 Golf can get 260 to 280BHP on a Stage 1 Map

Had a bit of a chase here in Dublin the 330 was on to the bypass just before me and I couldn't catch him.... but he couldn't shake me off! Then I got the re map!

Real Thing · 04-04-2009, 10:03 AM

DSG Box should be a lot faster change than any auto as in effect you have two gearboxes so when you say the changes feel instant they are as the next gear is selected before you leave the previous one.
Had a Scirocco for a couple of weeks last year (DSG) and the Drive and quality is not far behind BMs, To get the best out of them they do need to be Driven hard most of the time whereas something like your 330d can be Driven fast whilst still feeling relaxed.
Should be getting a GTi Pirelli next week which should be quicker than the Scirocco as they produce an extra 30hp (same as the GTi Edition 30)

dxb335d · 04-04-2009, 10:35 AM

I like the Pirelli, looks very nice.

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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Scirocco 2.0T DSG vs 330d Auto Been a few times now in a mate’s 2.0T DSG – I am so impressed with the DSG box, the changes are so much quicker than a slush when under full throttle, almost instant – stunning! After he drop’s me off we have a quick run on a dual carriage way. He got the jump on me, but in summary the Scirocco seems as quick as the 330d to about 70, perhaps the 330d started to catch slightly, but we didn’t go above legal speeds. I thought the 330d would be much quicker, but looking at parkers its 6.6s (330d) vs 6.8s so there isn’t much in it. .. __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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TMP Brigadier General 349 Rep 3,022 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheshire iTrader: (0)	Yep, as I said I am v.impressed with it, and this one is a Black Its also about £10k less than a 330 M!.... ....but it still aint no BM __________________ M2 Arrived! Family 5er
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