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View Poll Results: Which do you get KWV2 or Bilstein PSS9 | |||
KWV2 | 71 | 53.79% | |
Bilstein PSS9 | 61 | 46.21% | |
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07-24-2007, 10:29 PM | #67 |
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07-25-2007, 01:49 AM | #70 |
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07-25-2007, 11:51 AM | #71 | |
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I saw an M3 of a friend of mine with PSS9s and he upgraded to KWs. When they took down the suspension, it was corroded in certain places. Comparatively, I've seen the condition of KWs and there is no evidence of corrosion at all - this in a car that had the KWs for the same amount of time as the PSS9'ed M3. Keep in mind that a very important part of any suspension setup is also the manner in which it is installed. I've heard reports of people complaining about KWs, or Bilstiens for that matter, making noises and not performing properly - the most likely culprit is the install of the system. This is key. That said, Technik/AutoTalent do a phenomenal job at consultation and product install. Oh, and the KW are much easier to adjust than the PSS9s.
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07-25-2007, 12:00 PM | #72 | |
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Thats cool, i dont doubt AutoTalents expertise, i think they are a great shop and would always go there and recommend them to other people. But i stand by the better product in my opinion, the PSS9's. Just built by a company with a much better reputation and experience. |
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07-25-2007, 08:16 PM | #73 | |
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Who told you that, and why did you believe them? Bilstein are OEM on lots of cars, more than KW even. BMW, Ferrari, Jaguar, MB, Porsche, Subaru, Toyota and Mitsubishi, just to name a few, have all come with OEM Bilsteins. I also believe Koni is used as OEM for some manufacturers.
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07-25-2007, 09:34 PM | #74 | ||
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Composite is not for cost reduction, MBZ AMG independently strength tested it and concluded that it is stronger so they went with KW which was the only one that passed all their very strict tests. We are not knocking Bilstein as we offer their products as well. Our preference is KW for many reasons KW tests on nurburgring which is more street oriented. KW is used on most BTCC (British Touring) cars which are race prepped. Open up any European magazine and you will see KW all over the place and I don't mean advertisements. For the amount of time that KW has been around in comparison to Bilstein, they are doing very well for themselves. Also, KW manufactures the shocks for Eibach coilovers. We are comparing oranges to oranges which is coilovers to coilovers. Not company to product. Granted the information you provide is correct but does not pertain to the product which is PSS9 to KW Coilovers. Shoot me an email Sam@AutoTalent.com with your number Quote:
If you would like PSS9, we have those in stock as well. |
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07-25-2007, 09:35 PM | #75 | |
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07-25-2007, 10:50 PM | #76 |
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Ok, that makes more sense, you cant say Bilstein is not OEM quality, you should specify next time to avoid miscommunication.
Ferrari's are production cars, every Ferrari where production is not limited, is a production car. F430's, 599's, 612's are all production models, the Enzo was not a production model as it was limited to 399 units. This also would include the 360 Stradale, and the upcoming 430 Scuderia. This is why the 599GTB is the most powerful production Ferrari ever made.
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07-27-2007, 06:18 PM | #77 |
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Bilstein is definitely OEM quality. NO way anyone can deny that.
I thought I did specify but there was a lot of other stuff written at the same time Ferrari is production especially now but it is not the same as the other big manufactures. McLaren is a production car because they produced 25 or 50 cars |
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07-28-2007, 03:10 PM | #79 |
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07-28-2007, 06:56 PM | #80 |
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08-12-2007, 06:50 PM | #81 |
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We received a shipment of KW Variant 2's and have them ready to ship.
Let us know if you have any questions. Email: Sam@AutoTalent.com or PM me |
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08-22-2007, 10:46 PM | #82 |
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Does anybody have any experience with V1s and how they have those tuned. If the ride is inbetween full soft and full stiff (maybe slightly towards the softer setting) then I would definately just go for those. As far as adjustability goes, I prefer the exact settings of the Bilsteins. I've had a few koni shock setups before (Dinan suspension systems) and while I enjoy being able to adjust them, you always have to be ocd about getting them perfectly matched from left to right. Making marks on the shock towers, counting turns, etc, etc,. I often just put em in the middle and didn't bother to adjust for the track, or roadtrips. Chime in if you have some objective technical info and some subjective ride ratings.
PS: after reading through this thread, I am amazed at how some members have found it possible to bicker and argue about two great products. People seem to feel the need to quote other's posts and then try to make them feel stupid, or try to look like the suspension guru they want to appear to be. Come on, this thread began so constructively and some of you just can't help but try to bring it down to a level where no one can gain any knowledge about the topic. |
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08-23-2007, 12:35 AM | #83 | |
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In either case, it rather sucks cause there is some good info. here, but you have to weed thru all the retarded posts to find it. By far the most immature car forum I have been a part of. Now, you want a class act forum that is fun and has some of the coolest people, go visit Z06vette.com
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