Edmund's The Inside Line on the 627WHP N54

OpenFlash · 02-23-2012, 05:23 PM

UPDATE: http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...goes-fast.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...s-weekend.html

I don't like their prediction

Hope we prove them wrong and make n54 lovers out of all the naysayers.

Cheers,
shiv

nitehawk · 02-23-2012, 05:29 PM

Good luck

JB335 · 02-23-2012, 05:35 PM

Nice

GmoBmw · 02-23-2012, 05:38 PM

hehe Shiv's go prove them wrong.... boost-induced engine malfunction.... Lol Seriously?... got get em.

Infamous · 02-23-2012, 05:48 PM

compared to the other publications out there, edmunds has always struck me as having the greatest amount of ignorance, the least amount of driving skill, and a lack of engineering knowledge

they should keep competing with consumer reports regarding their thoughts on matters such as which camry trim line meets peoples' needs better

jpsimon · 02-23-2012, 05:50 PM

apparently you only ripped out one of the original turbos

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ripped a turbo off of the 335

rader1 · 02-23-2012, 05:55 PM

Anyone ever notice that car mag writers(in print or online) usually have so little amount of basic automotive knowledge it's scary? I'd bet most have no idea what the difference between a supercharger or turbo even is.

dzenno · 02-23-2012, 05:58 PM

Hey Shiv, brake a leg

dlbrooks18 · 02-23-2012, 06:03 PM

Can't wait to hear how you perform!

marv85 · 02-23-2012, 06:04 PM

Prove them wrong Shiv!!

Q4P · 02-23-2012, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rader1

Anyone ever notice that car mag writers(in print or online) usually have so little amount of basic automotive knowledge it's scary? I'd bet most have no idea what the difference between a supercharger or turbo even is.

Car mags are a marketing tool, little less... too much money is exchanged behind closed doors to have unbiased opinions. This is why top gear is respected worldwide... they are fully funded by public money and generally say how they feel. Very curious to hear their opinions on the F30.

...anyways gl shiv!

Fundahl · 02-23-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infamous

compared to the other publications out there, edmunds has always struck me as having the greatest amount of ignorance, the least amount of driving skill, and a lack of engineering knowledge

they should keep competing with consumer reports regarding their thoughts on matters such as which camry trim line meets peoples' needs better

I agree, X1,000,000,000

I've got money on them being the lamest automotive review site yet.

And yeah Shiv, break a leg. Just not a piston, rod, valve, bearing, head gasket, manifold, etc.

OpenFlash · 02-23-2012, 06:08 PM

lol thanks guys. Without the upgraded MAP sensor, the won't be running anything close to 627whp at the airstrip event. I'm just going to use it as a tuning tool. Rarely can I find good data logging roads that will allow me to run 170mph

Fundahl · 02-23-2012, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

lol thanks guys. Without the upgraded MAP sensor, the won't be running anything close to 627whp at the airstrip event. I'm just going to use it as a tuning tool. Rarely can I find good data logging roads that will allow me to run 170mph

So what happens when you push past the sensor limits? The fueling goes instant lean or something?

marv85 · 02-23-2012, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

lol thanks guys. Without the upgraded MAP sensor, the won't be running anything close to 627whp at the airstrip event. I'm just going to use it as a tuning tool. Rarely can I find good data logging roads that will allow me to run 170mph

Hi shiv, how much are you aiming to run at the event?

OpenFlash · 02-23-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marv85

Hi shiv, how much are you aiming to run at the event?

Not exactly. If the stock MAP sensor (and Procede) can only see a max of 20.7psi and the boost target is say 21, it will react as if it were having a sustained underboost condition and start dialing up the wastegate DC in an attempt to raise boost. Of course, it will never see the increase in boost so boost will keep climbing and climbing up to the point of maximum authority for the PID system. This is why I had my eyes glued to a mechanical boost gauge during the dyno pulls. For this event, I'm just going to play it cool, give some rides and just have fun. There is still another fuel system upgrade that I need to do when i get back. No sense in going for the gold this weekend. Especially considering some of the 1000+whp cars out there!

Shiv

marv85 · 02-23-2012, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Not exactly. If the stock MAP sensor (and Procede) can only see a max of 20.7psi and the boost target is say 21, it will react as if it were having a sustained underboost condition and start dialing up the wastegate DC in an attempt to raise boost. Of course, it will never see the increase in boost so boost will keep climbing and climbing up to the point of maximum authority for the PID system. This is why I had my eyes glued to a mechanical boost gauge during the dyno pulls. For this event, I'm just going to play it cool, give some rides and just have fun. There is still another fuel system upgrade that I need to do when i get back. No sense in going for the gold this weekend. Especially considering some of the 1000+whp cars out there!

Shiv

Agreed! Damn I wish I could make it...

Good luck

rader1 · 02-23-2012, 06:45 PM

Go big or go home

dlbrooks18 · 02-23-2012, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

lol thanks guys. Without the upgraded MAP sensor, the won't be running anything close to 627whp at the airstrip event. I'm just going to use it as a tuning tool. Rarely can I find good data logging roads that will allow me to run 170mph

I hope you can get this fixed in time, or figure a way to make a safe glory run!

venom3469 · 02-23-2012, 07:00 PM

No worries, you got it!!!

skinrock · 02-23-2012, 07:05 PM

I didn't expect the article to end at their claim. What an extensive, thought-out prediction

Jonny550 · 02-23-2012, 07:06 PM

WOw those are some intimidating cars your going to be lining up with. Keep two hands on the wheel when the AMS gtr starts to shake the floor lol.

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