[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

wth was done to the z06??? there is no way it was nearly stock. i raced one before bms flash on stock turbos with no meth and he only put 2.5-3 cars on me.

I noticed the Z really takes well to a good driver and a mediocre driver can really make it look slower then it really is.

Even I have improved my times with the same modifications at the track just by learning the car better and shifting more efficiently.

If there is one thing I do notice is that if I'm racing a car I should beat I don't really try that hard. That 2-3 cars may have been true but he could have more left in it also.

A true racer never gives all he has unless he really needs to

Originally Posted by AK 335i

He said intake. But he has Beaten a fbo coyote on 150 shot that traps 129 multiple times.

So who knows

He could easily stick a sleeper cam, built / ported heads tune and intake but it wont make much over 500WHP so really not that much different.

Stock is about 445WHP

[AK 335i]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I noticed the Z really takes well to a good driver and a mediocre driver can really make it look slower then it really is.

Even I have improved my times with the same modifications at the track just by learning the car better and shifting more efficiently.

If there is one thing I do notice is that if I'm racing a car I should beat I don't really try that hard. That 2-3 cars may have been true but he could have more left in it also.

A true racer never gives all he has unless he really needs to



He could easily stick a sleeper cam, built / ported heads tune and intake but it wont make much over 500WHP so really not that much different.

Stock is about 445WHP

He's prob just stock. I lose a lot of ground Pedaling it like that and I was on low boost.

Some times I want to pick up a c5 or c6 Z. Lol. Great cars. They just work

[FRMTL2_335i]

Originally Posted by AK 335i

He's prob just stock. I lose a lot of ground Pedaling it like that and I was on low boost.

Some times I want to pick up a c5 or c6 Z. Lol. Great cars. They just work

the c5 z is SLOW compared to the c6z

[FRMTL2_335i]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I noticed the Z really takes well to a good driver and a mediocre driver can really make it look slower then it really is.

Even I have improved my times with the same modifications at the track just by learning the car better and shifting more efficiently.

If there is one thing I do notice is that if I'm racing a car I should beat I don't really try that hard. That 2-3 cars may have been true but he could have more left in it also.

A true racer never gives all he has unless he really needs to



He could easily stick a sleeper cam, built / ported heads tune and intake but it wont make much over 500WHP so really not that much different.

Stock is about 445WHP

not this guy, he is an older guy, has been racing cobras and vetts for years, im sure he knows how to drive damn well. His car did run 12.1 on bald runflats though.
now he has headers, cat delete, intake, x pipe and a tune. he lost to my buddy's '11 sti with 595awhp 495awtq (mustang dyno) by only a car length

this makes me wanna buy one but they are still expensive and to mod them they are worse than our bimmers.

[Miller335]

Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

the c5 z is SLOW compared to the c6z

02-04 C5Z's are about 360whp.
It would take $4k-$7k depending on the parts you buy and if you did all the work to get it to 450-460whp.

I was going to get a C5Z before I decided to go the 335 route.
After thinkin about it more it made more sense to just straight to a procharger but that was a large chunk of money up front after buying a $20k-$25k car.

Vettes are trap speed beasts, I love them. I will prob own one someday.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

not this guy, he is an older guy, has been racing cobras and vetts for years, im sure he knows how to drive damn well. His car did run 12.1 on bald runflats though.
now he has headers, cat delete, intake, x pipe and a tune. he lost to my buddy's '11 sti with 595awhp 495awtq (mustang dyno) by only a car length

this makes me wanna buy one but they are still expensive and to mod them they are worse than our bimmers.

They are expensive if you want to go with N/A set ups cause for the same cost you can just slap on a supercharger.

12.1 stock is not that good of a time. It should be in the mid 11's. I pray for your friends STI, even built they seem to be ticking times bombs.

I already made the mistake of going with a big cam and I hated it.

I think I'm going to hold out until the new c7 z06 is a few years old then pick one of those up. :crosses fingers:

All the refinements this C6 needs is fixed in the C7 and the looks and power are just awesome.

[Greatdane84]

Nice thread. I too was between the c6 and 335. Actually got my 335i from a Chevy dealer going to see I they had a c6 and they'd just taken my car in on trade

[Indo Rider]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

A true racer never gives all he has unless he really needs to

Yeah, tell that to Sebastian Vettel when he wins a race by 20 seconds... lol. Not so much this year tho.

[AK 335i]

Originally Posted by FRMTL2_335i

the c5 z is SLOW compared to the c6z

Ya stock for stock.

But do the bolts ons cam/ heads and spray it and you are getting near 140 on a c5z

[Milan]

Best of both worlds here!

C6Zs are no joke. Our cars (BMW) are just never going to be highway cars, too heavy and poor aero.

My C5Z with just an intake and tune went 12.5 @ 118 which is enough to take care of most of the 335's on this forum, I would not underestimate a C5Z either. If they have heads/cam there is basically nothing you are doing to your 335 that's going to catch it, from a dig or a roll.

[Ingeniator]

Originally Posted by Milan

Best of both worlds here!

C6Zs are no joke. Our cars (BMW) are just never going to be highway cars, too heavy and poor aero.

My C5Z with just an intake and tune went 12.5 @ 118 which is enough to take care of most of the 335's on this forum, I would not underestimate a C5Z either. If they have heads/cam there is basically nothing you are doing to your 335 that's going to catch it, from a dig or a roll.

I agree LS7's are mean especially on boost.

My buddy has a CTS-V 1st gen with a maggie supercharger maxed out. The thing is mean for a 4 door sedan. He needs to do the 8.8 swap soon though his 3rd rear end is starting to whine. So I agree a built LS6 is mean also.

[Bme30]

Ak335i cars is fast. He was throttling it for most if the run. If he was running full boost he would have walked busses. I have personally witnessed him beating 140 trap car in the roads

[Nishan@MOTIV]

Oh hell yea!

[AK 335i]

Originally Posted by Nishan@PTF

Oh hell yea!

Yes sir and thank u for ur skills

[Badmeat]

Originally Posted by Miller335

02-04 C5Z's are about 360whp.
It would take $4k-$7k depending on the parts you buy and if you did all the work to get it to 450-460whp.

I was going to get a C5Z before I decided to go the 335 route.
After thinkin about it more it made more sense to just straight to a procharger but that was a large chunk of money up front after buying a $20k-$25k car.

Vettes are trap speed beasts, I love them. I will prob own one someday.

You're about spot on...

LS6 parts needed for 450+whp:

Headers - $500
Exhaust & Y pipe - $1,000
Intake - $300
Heads - $1500
Cam & valvetrain upgrade - $900
HP Tuners & pro tune - $1,000

A procharged setup would be the way to go though....$6,000 and 500+whp