MOT info needed

RCUK · 11-28-2012, 02:09 PM

Guys,

In short .. cousin bought a RRS today... MOT expired yesterday on tyres. He had it booked in today to get new tyres and retest closer to home as car was bought miles away.

Now .. from what i know because he pre-booked test he was insured to drive to the MOT centre.

BUT .. due to traffic etc .. he got tyres done, but MOT centre was closed.

Someone has told him that he has 10 days to sort car tyres out and can use the car normally in the meantime, but as far as i was aware - if he drives the car normally he will be driving without insurance and could get into trouble with the law as the MOT is expired and having a failed test even if its only for tyres still doesn't allow him to drive it.

Can anyone shed some light??

davyk31 · 11-28-2012, 03:07 PM

Your thoughts are right, he can only drive it to the MOT centre.

mowflow · 11-28-2012, 03:10 PM

As above. Can only be driven to a test centre for re testing.

phil200tdi · 11-29-2012, 03:28 AM

But when was the last time you saw a traffic copper?

The number of people driving without insurance and tax is epic. If your mate wanted to risk it, just stay away from major roads (with ANPR) and it'll be fine for a few days...

A mate of mine didn't realise his mot had expired for 9months until his insurance renewal was due!!

xenon · 11-29-2012, 03:38 AM

^^ Sound advice, as long as he doesn't crash into me with no insurance.

mowflow · 11-29-2012, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil200tdi

But when was the last time you saw a traffic copper?

The number of people driving without insurance and tax is epic. If your mate wanted to risk it, just stay away from major roads (with ANPR) and it'll be fine for a few days...

A mate of mine didn't realise his mot had expired for 9months until his insurance renewal was due!!

My wife drove around for over a month without an MOT having not realised it had expired.

I dare say a lot of people do it.

Oli · 11-29-2012, 05:01 AM

I run an MOT centre and will only echo what had been said above. He is only legal to drive the most direct route to and from the test centre on a pre-booked test. On the computerised system, the moment a failure had been issued it overrules everything even if there was any MOT left.

HTH

xenon · 11-29-2012, 05:06 AM

Oli, off the subject somewhat, but has your centre ever failed a car with illegal HID headlights (i.e. a retrofit without self-levelling and headlamp washers)? I know the rules have tightened on this but wondered what the practical upshot was and if some testers would even be able to spot the difference...

phil200tdi · 11-29-2012, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oli

I run an MOT centre and will only echo what had been said above. He is only legal to drive the most direct route to and from the test centre on a pre-booked test. On the computerised system, the moment a failure had been issued it overrules everything even if there was any MOT left.

HTH

But when the vehicle fails some centres offer a free retest within 10days.

If you drive away with no MOT this must be illegal.

xenon · 11-29-2012, 07:14 AM

You're allowed to drive it home or to a pre-booked retest or repair so there's no issue.

A_P · 11-29-2012, 09:08 AM

OK OK, so I get all the above but why doesn't the guy just insure the car? then there is no problem is there? The tires are done so MOT will be fine and then the only issue would be tax?

Imagine the guy is driving the most direct route to the test center and a chump drives into the back. this chump doesn't have any insurance. So you have 2 cars without insurance. then?

EEEE NO MAKE A SENSA....?

mowflow · 11-29-2012, 03:11 PM

You can't insure a car without an MOT. Anyway, I think the problem is that he has insurance and tax but the insurance isn't valid for driving around until he gets the car retested and passed. It would only be valid for driving to or from a pre booked test.

Desmondo · 12-01-2012, 10:03 AM

Not having a current valid MOT does not automatically invalidate your insurance.

TripleBlack · 12-02-2012, 12:20 AM

In my previous BMW, over the last 4 years, I would drive around for months without a valid MOT believing that other than the required safety check aspect, you just needed it to do an online road tax purchase.
So for example, if my MOT was due January, I would purchase road tax for 6/12 months in December because it would be approved. I would think nothing of it until the next time I would need road tax because then I wouldn't be approved with an expired MOT of 6/12 months.
I was never informed otherwise until very recently whilst refreshing my knowledge on the subject. Now, I've gone back and informed everyone who I gave wrong advice too about it.
What was more interesting, within those four years. I may have been stopped by police 5 times for what ever excuse they wanted to use. My details were always checked but not once was expired MOT mentioned... Maybe I was lucky. I don't know.

11-28-2012, 02:09 PM	#1
RCUK Lieutenant Colonel 100 Rep 1,672 Posts Drives: 911 Turbo Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orpington, Kent iTrader: (4)	MOT info needed - pretty urgent Guys, In short .. cousin bought a RRS today... MOT expired yesterday on tyres. He had it booked in today to get new tyres and retest closer to home as car was bought miles away. Now .. from what i know because he pre-booked test he was insured to drive to the MOT centre. BUT .. due to traffic etc .. he got tyres done, but MOT centre was closed. Someone has told him that he has 10 days to sort car tyres out and can use the car normally in the meantime, but as far as i was aware - if he drives the car normally he will be driving without insurance and could get into trouble with the law as the MOT is expired and having a failed test even if its only for tyres still doesn't allow him to drive it. Can anyone shed some light?? __________________ Been there, done that, driven the 'Ring
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davyk31 Major General 1036 Rep 6,944 Posts Drives: Macan GTS :-) & F40 M135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern Ireland iTrader: (0)	Your thoughts are right, he can only drive it to the MOT centre.
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mowflow Colonel 62 Rep 2,472 Posts Drives: Golf 7R Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (2)	As above. Can only be driven to a test centre for re testing.
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	But when was the last time you saw a traffic copper? The number of people driving without insurance and tax is epic. If your mate wanted to risk it, just stay away from major roads (with ANPR) and it'll be fine for a few days... A mate of mine didn't realise his mot had expired for 9months until his insurance renewal was due!! __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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xenon Major General 1394 Rep 8,081 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	^^ Sound advice, as long as he doesn't crash into me with no insurance. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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Oli Campervan man 94 Rep 2,667 Posts Drives: RS3 and VW Kombi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: here, there, everywhere...... iTrader: (1)	I run an MOT centre and will only echo what had been said above. He is only legal to drive the most direct route to and from the test centre on a pre-booked test. On the computerised system, the moment a failure had been issued it overrules everything even if there was any MOT left. HTH __________________ www.bmvs-camperhire.co.uk Genuine VW T5 California Rental
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xenon Major General 1394 Rep 8,081 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	Oli, off the subject somewhat, but has your centre ever failed a car with illegal HID headlights (i.e. a retrofit without self-levelling and headlamp washers)? I know the rules have tightened on this but wondered what the practical upshot was and if some testers would even be able to spot the difference... __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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xenon Major General 1394 Rep 8,081 Posts Drives: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	You're allowed to drive it home or to a pre-booked retest or repair so there's no issue. __________________ Ian Current: 2021 G21 330i M-Sport Previous: 2018 A6 Avant S-Line MMI+, 2014 F31 320d M-Sport, 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, 2011 F10 530d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2
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A_P Lieutenant Colonel 57 Rep 1,698 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: South East iTrader: (0)	OK OK, so I get all the above but why doesn't the guy just insure the car? then there is no problem is there? The tires are done so MOT will be fine and then the only issue would be tax? Imagine the guy is driving the most direct route to the test center and a chump drives into the back. this chump doesn't have any insurance. So you have 2 cars without insurance. then? EEEE NO MAKE A SENSA....?
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mowflow Colonel 62 Rep 2,472 Posts Drives: Golf 7R Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (2)	You can't insure a car without an MOT. Anyway, I think the problem is that he has insurance and tax but the insurance isn't valid for driving around until he gets the car retested and passed. It would only be valid for driving to or from a pre booked test.
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12-01-2012, 10:03 AM	#13
Desmondo Lieutenant 14 Rep 461 Posts Drives: E90 330i M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Braintree, Essex iTrader: (0)	Not having a current valid MOT does not automatically invalidate your insurance. __________________
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TripleBlack First Lieutenant 28 Rep 383 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW E93 335i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: London iTrader: (0)	In my previous BMW, over the last 4 years, I would drive around for months without a valid MOT believing that other than the required safety check aspect, you just needed it to do an online road tax purchase. So for example, if my MOT was due January, I would purchase road tax for 6/12 months in December because it would be approved. I would think nothing of it until the next time I would need road tax because then I wouldn't be approved with an expired MOT of 6/12 months. I was never informed otherwise until very recently whilst refreshing my knowledge on the subject. Now, I've gone back and informed everyone who I gave wrong advice too about it. What was more interesting, within those four years. I may have been stopped by police 5 times for what ever excuse they wanted to use. My details were always checked but not once was expired MOT mentioned... Maybe I was lucky. I don't know.
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