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05-16-2012, 08:39 AM | #24 |
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this sums it up perfectly. The Cockster:
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another vote for the Cayman
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05-16-2012, 10:25 AM | #28 |
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I have had BOTH
a Cayman and a 335is.
Both handle very well. The Cayman is far more sensitive and precise, however, which comes from being hundreds of pounds lighter. Acceleration is better as well [ditto on the weight]. I have the 335is convertible, with hard roof, which gives me year round satisfaction. I like that I sit higher in the 335is, and at my 65 years, it's easier to get in and out of. Also love the dual clutch transmission [you can get PDK in Porsche if you like], and there is more interior room, if less trunk room. [Would have the manual except for knee problems and pending surgery.] Both manuals are very good. Steering is heavier and feels more artificial [no surprise if you have Porsche experience]. Exhaust sound at low rpm is better - none of that drone - but not as satisfying at higher rpm. Brakes are good on both. Points to the Porsche for skipping the run flats. I had no driveline problems at all on the Cayman nor on the 335is. Both are great cars. Plus to the 335is if you want a year round convertible. I take exception with the person who insulted the Cayman looks. Very, very sharp, and similar to my '55 550 spyder. Also not every Tom, Dick and Harry has a Porsche. Get the coupe or the convertible to be at least a bit different. And drive them, for goodness' sake ! mike Last edited by theoldblue; 05-16-2012 at 10:29 AM.. Reason: clarify |
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Unless you think the M3 is ass-engined. P.S. I re-read your post. I guess you are saying that the relationship between the 335is and the M3 is the same as the relationship between the Cayman and the 911. Not quite. There is a significant difference between the Boxster/Cayman and the 911 in terms of weight distribution. Rear-midship is not the same thing as rear engined. And yes, the 911 is a very competent car, but much of its mystique drives from Porsche's ability to overcome an INHERENTLY UNBALANCED chassis to achieve such greatness. Is that impressive? Yes. Does that change the fact that having the entire engine hanging behind your rear axle isn't a great starting point for a purebred sports car? No. Given the same amount of power and similar tuning, I have no doubt that the Cayman will smoke a 911 in most tracks. Last edited by Propagator; 05-16-2012 at 12:14 PM.. |
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The same is not true for the Cayman vs. 911. If you add more power to the Cayman, you get a better balanced and better performing sports car than the 911, a situation that Porsche would not allow for marketing reasons. Your comparison between the regular 3er and the M3 is more similar to the difference between a Carrera S and a GT3. One is a higher performance version of the other, but both are basically the same car. Not so for the Cayman vs. 911. And also, AFAIK the entire engine still hangs in the back of the rear axle. (Ok, maybe not ALL of it, but most of it) Last edited by Propagator; 05-16-2012 at 03:05 PM.. |
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i cant believe how many ppl on here are knocking on the cayman s. op if you dont need the extra space for every day use, i'd definitely look into a cayman s. gl
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05-16-2012, 04:12 PM | #34 | |
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I have a cayman S, traded in my e92 335 for it, so I may be a bit biased. But, at least I can say the Porsche has a whole lot less problems than all BMWs I've owned. I've had it for 18 months now and zero problems except a dead battery. Replaced with a bigger one from autozone myself for $120 bucks. Nothing else. BMWs have had all kinds of electronic problems, none major but kind of annoying. But from a luxury standpoint, 335 is much better. Also the cayman has too much road noise, so it's kind of impossible to play some light piano music in the car while driving on the highway, which I love to do. You might want to take that into consideration. I heard the carreras are much better in this aspect. I like carreras, and am thinking moving to one from the cayman in a year. However, I cannot disagree that the cayman will be the superior platform, and it will outrun t carrera if put into similar specs, including the GT3. Carrera is a great car, but the name is a big factor. |
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05-16-2012, 04:18 PM | #35 |
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In terms of performance, the Cayman S is better than the 335.
However, you have to think of other factors, that is, if they are factors for your situation. I was torn between these very two cars last year as well. These were my thoughts: Cayman S is a sports car and carries more status symbol. It's not as common (at least here). Cayman S performs better Cayman S is a porsche... and I'd love to own one (a porsche) one day. Reasons why I went for 335 I live in northeast with brutal winters. X-Drive helps here. I travel a lot and need the luggage space. 4 doors helps here. Comfort. I drive long trips (commute is 2 hrs of twisty roads each way). Sit in a Cayman S for a few hours... not nearly as comfy (seats, cabin electronics, etc). If I went w/ Cayman S, i'd have to get a secondary car. I found 335 to be a happy medium. If these factors aren't factors for you, then go for the cayman s and let me live vicariously through you. |
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05-16-2012, 06:21 PM | #36 |
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cayman s, especially if practicality isnt a main concern
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05-16-2012, 06:46 PM | #37 |
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I would personally love a Cayman--I think it looks pretty good, and most of all, it's a Porsche, which is enough said. However, between the choice of a NEW 335i or a USED Cayman, I would not think twice: Get the 3! There's no better feeling than having a car that no one but you has owned.
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Thanks, guys. An interesting and entertaining read.
I'm leaning very heavily towards the Cayman. The one caveat is my wife is pushing hard for a PDK (which, if you're going to drive an auto, is about as good as it gets), though finding used PDKs in our price range optioned the way I want is damned near impossible. The first car we looked at had it all, but by the time I convinced her to even considering getting one, the car had sold. Oh, well - I guess that means I'll have to suffer through 6mt. |
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