XI Staggered Tire Calculation Tables

CMAN-28 · 09-16-2015, 04:04 PM

Currently got this setup on my 330xi with style 95s:

225/35-r19 on a 19x9
265/30-r19 on a 19x10

Do you guys think I'll be ok?
I see this setup is not blue but is also not crossed out in the chart.

Thanks

twastheglow · 09-16-2015, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMAN-28

Currently got this setup on my 330xi with style 95s:

225/35-r19 on a 19x9
265/30-r19 on a 19x10

Do you guys think I'll be ok?
I see this setup is not blue but is also not crossed out in the chart.

Thanks

I have the same wheels but decided on 235/35 and 265/30. I checked the tire manufacturers specs for each size and in my tire model in those sizes there was only a 5 rev per mile difference between the 2. In the tires I chose, 225/35 and 265/30 would have a larger deviation which isn't preferred.

CMAN-28 · 09-17-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by twastheglow

I have the same wheels but decided on 235/35 and 265/30. I checked the tire manufacturers specs for each size and in my tire model in those sizes there was only a 5 rev per mile difference between the 2. In the tires I chose, 225/35 and 265/30 would have a larger deviation which isn't preferred.

With the 225/35 and 265/30 I only got a 2 rev/mile difference and everything else (sidewall, radius, diameter) came so close I'm deciding to keep them. I attached a result I got from a calculator.

I actually got a higher rev/mile difference with the 235/35 and 265/30. Thanks for the response tho.

twastheglow · 09-17-2015, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CMAN-28

With the 225/35 and 265/30 I only got a 2 rev/mile difference and everything else (sidewall, radius, diameter) came so close I'm deciding to keep them. I attached a result I got from a calculator.

I actually got a higher rev/mile difference with the 235/35 and 265/30. Thanks for the response tho.

As long as the specs you're quoting are directly from the manufacturers specs, then you're golden. That's why I spoke specifically of my tire make/model. They all differ which is why you want to check with each tire model.

Nismo G · 10-18-2015, 01:22 PM

anyone running 285/30/19? If so, what are you running in the front?

jwebb335xi · 10-21-2015, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by evon54

so 245 fronts fit?? i thought it would rub on XI?

I have 255s at all 4 corners.

jwebb335xi · 10-21-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by evon54

so 245 fronts fit?? i thought it would rub on XI?

I have 255s at all 4 corners.

igzekyativ · 11-11-2015, 10:41 AM

I read through this entire thread, but still a bit confused. My goal is to avoid rubbing, I had some rubbing on my previous car and it was just annoying. I don't want to spend all this money and have the wheels rub.

I am looking to get ECS Tuning Alzor 19" Style 030 Wheels - Staggered Set Of Four (19x8.5" ET35/19x9.5" ET40 72.6CB 5x120).

I want all season tires, so the General G-Max AS-03 or the Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS are the choices I have.

The first post says 225/35-19 and 255/30-19 are the choice for 19" rims. There is no all season option for me in this size (due to the rear tire size).

Later post say 235/35-19 and 265/30-19 are run by a lot of people. Other people have run 225/35-19 and 265/3019 with success. I am just not sure which setup to get. I read this too - "Again, I will say it.. 225 tire on an 8.5" rim is possible.. I have done it myself.. However, the performance is pure garbage and it is UNSAFE. I had an instance where the tire collapsed through a turn and the rim edge came into contact with the ground. Why? Tire was not wide enough."

The DWS is $772 & General is $680 in the 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup. In this setup I would prefer the DWS for $92 more.

The DWS is $837 & General is $683 in the 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup. In this setup the General is what I would go for ($150 less).

Can someone tell me which tire size is best for the rims I'm getting and the tire choices I have?

Here are the information for the calculations -

DWS - 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup:

General - 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup:

DWS - 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup:

General - 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup:

SLOWER · 11-27-2015, 04:31 PM

Need some help here. Can I go 245/40-18 and 265/35-18 ? Anyone doing this on xdrive or it's a no go?

Tire heights would be 25.7 and 25.3". Revs per mile 809 and 822.

Thank you!

joshe92 · 12-02-2015, 11:04 AM

Love this

joshe92 · 12-02-2015, 11:09 AM

Does this apply to all xDrive models or only the E90 sedan?

I have an E92 xDrive

Delta0311 · 12-02-2015, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joshe92

Does this apply to all xDrive models or only the E90 sedan?

I have an E92 xDrive

It's for ALL xdrive models.. Diameter had nothing to do with your car's model.

joshe92 · 12-02-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta0311

It's for ALL xdrive models.. Diameter had nothing to do with your car's model.

My OEM setup for 18" is F 225/40 and R 255/35, table shows 0.4 (in blue)

If I go up, 10cm in width, F 235/40 and R 265/35, table shows same 0.4

That means I can do the more staggered set-up with wider wheels, and I'll be Okay?

joshe92 · 12-02-2015, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta0311

It's for ALL xdrive models.. Diameter had nothing to do with your car's model.

My OEM setup for 18" is F 225/40 and R 255/35, table shows 0.4 (in blue)

If I go up, 10cm in width, F 235/40 and R 265/35, table shows same 0.4

That means I can do the more staggered set-up with wider wheels, and I'll be Okay? Does lowering the car, affect the stagger?

Delta0311 · 12-02-2015, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshe92

My OEM setup for 18" is F 225/40 and R 255/35, table shows 0.4 (in blue)

If I go up, 10cm in width, F 235/40 and R 265/35, table shows same 0.4

That means I can do the more staggered set-up with wider wheels, and I'll be Okay? Does lowering the car, affect the stagger?

Yes you can lower the car; rolling diamater is affected by tire size not by suspension.

F 235/40 and R 265/35 will work. Personally I like the OEM stock staggered size.

joshe92 · 12-02-2015, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta0311

Yes you can lower the car; rolling diamater is affected by tire size not by suspension.

F 235/40 and R 265/35 will work. Personally I like the OEM stock staggered size.

Thank you for the info! I like wide and fat tires IMO

igzekyativ · 12-02-2015, 01:01 PM

so no answer to my previous post..

What tire size should I run on 19x8.5" ET35/19x9.5" ET40? I am leaning towards B or C but not sure which one, but please correct me if I am mistaken.

A) 225/35-19 front, and 255/30-19 rear
- +0.4%
- OEM, blue on OP
- but all season tire not available in this rear tire size

B) 225/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear
- (0.4%)
- both sizes available in all season

C) 235/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear
- +0.8%

D) 235/40-19 front, and 275/35-19 rear
- not on the chart but this guy mentions it in his thread.. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...13&postcount=5

E) 245/35-19 front, and 275/30-19 rear
- +0.8%

This is a picture (from the ECS site) of the actual rims and I like how the tire is a little stretched, I'm just not sure what tire size it is.. https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/469396_x800.jpg

igzekyativ · 12-10-2015, 08:01 PM

i ordered these... hopefully not a mistake

B) 225/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear
- (0.4%)
- both sizes available in all season

Parnishka · 12-11-2015, 02:39 PM

245 275 r19 are wrong. It's not 0.8% it's 1.1%.

Steve Theodore · 12-22-2015, 12:11 AM

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igzekyativ · 01-12-2016, 12:33 PM

so I got 225/35/19 and 265/30/19 based on this thread, but VMR is telling me that 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 is the recommendation for the 710's i plan to get. i am thinking about swapping up to the 235.

General G-Max AS-03:
225 and 265 revs/mi - 815 and 821
235 and 265 revs/mi - 824 and 821

My concern is that with the 225, the front will be stretched more than the rear with the 265 and so the stretched-ness wont match front to back, thoughts anyone?

NYBulldog · 01-15-2016, 05:06 PM

Hey guys I want to put OEM 18" M3 Wheels on my E91 xDrive with WINTER tires. Since the wheels are staggered I can't buy 4 tires with the same specs without the rear tires getting stretched on a wider rim.

E9X M3 219M Wheel Specs:
8.5 x 18 ET:29
9.5 x 18 ET:23

The only place that could give me a "matching height" set was Tirerack. Using the E92 LCI xDrive MSport 18" Specs they recommend this combination:

Front: 225/40-18
Rear: 255/35-18

Anyone have any opinions on this? Attached are the specs.

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CMAN-28 Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: BMW e90 330xi Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	Currently got this setup on my 330xi with style 95s: 225/35-r19 on a 19x9 265/30-r19 on a 19x10 Do you guys think I'll be ok? I see this setup is not blue but is also not crossed out in the chart. Thanks
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igzekyativ Captain 142 Rep 758 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328xi Wagon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Asheville, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 328xi [0.00]	tire size help I read through this entire thread, but still a bit confused. My goal is to avoid rubbing, I had some rubbing on my previous car and it was just annoying. I don't want to spend all this money and have the wheels rub. I am looking to get ECS Tuning Alzor 19" Style 030 Wheels - Staggered Set Of Four (19x8.5" ET35/19x9.5" ET40 72.6CB 5x120). I want all season tires, so the General G-Max AS-03 or the Continental EXTREMECONTACT DWS are the choices I have. The first post says 225/35-19 and 255/30-19 are the choice for 19" rims. There is no all season option for me in this size (due to the rear tire size). Later post say 235/35-19 and 265/30-19 are run by a lot of people. Other people have run 225/35-19 and 265/3019 with success. I am just not sure which setup to get. I read this too - "Again, I will say it.. 225 tire on an 8.5" rim is possible.. I have done it myself.. However, the performance is pure garbage and it is UNSAFE. I had an instance where the tire collapsed through a turn and the rim edge came into contact with the ground. Why? Tire was not wide enough." The DWS is $772 & General is $680 in the 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup. In this setup I would prefer the DWS for $92 more. The DWS is $837 & General is $683 in the 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup. In this setup the General is what I would go for ($150 less). Can someone tell me which tire size is best for the rims I'm getting and the tire choices I have? Here are the information for the calculations - DWS - 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup: General - 225/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup: DWS - 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup: General - 235/35-19 & 265/30-19 setup: __________________ 2007 328xi Wagon, Black Sapphire Metallic, Sports Package, Cold Weather Package, Rear PDC, Airlift kit with 3P mgmt, CF Akrym rep lip, LCI M-Tech front bumper, LUX Angel Eyes, Black Kidneys, LED Interior Lights, M3 Steering Wheel with Extended Billet DCT Paddles, 19" Staggered VMR 710's
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igzekyativ Captain 142 Rep 758 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328xi Wagon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Asheville, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 328xi [0.00]	so no answer to my previous post.. What tire size should I run on 19x8.5" ET35/19x9.5" ET40? I am leaning towards B or C but not sure which one, but please correct me if I am mistaken. A) 225/35-19 front, and 255/30-19 rear - +0.4% - OEM, blue on OP - but all season tire not available in this rear tire size B) 225/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear - (0.4%) - both sizes available in all season C) 235/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear - +0.8% D) 235/40-19 front, and 275/35-19 rear - not on the chart but this guy mentions it in his thread.. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...13&postcount=5 E) 245/35-19 front, and 275/30-19 rear - +0.8% This is a picture (from the ECS site) of the actual rims and I like how the tire is a little stretched, I'm just not sure what tire size it is.. https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/469396_x800.jpg __________________ 2007 328xi Wagon, Black Sapphire Metallic, Sports Package, Cold Weather Package, Rear PDC, Airlift kit with 3P mgmt, CF Akrym rep lip, LCI M-Tech front bumper, LUX Angel Eyes, Black Kidneys, LED Interior Lights, M3 Steering Wheel with Extended Billet DCT Paddles, 19" Staggered VMR 710's Last edited by igzekyativ; 12-02-2015 at 01:12 PM..
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igzekyativ Captain 142 Rep 758 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328xi Wagon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Asheville, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 328xi [0.00]	i ordered these... hopefully not a mistake B) 225/35-19 front, and 265/30-19 rear - (0.4%) - both sizes available in all season __________________ 2007 328xi Wagon, Black Sapphire Metallic, Sports Package, Cold Weather Package, Rear PDC, Airlift kit with 3P mgmt, CF Akrym rep lip, LCI M-Tech front bumper, LUX Angel Eyes, Black Kidneys, LED Interior Lights, M3 Steering Wheel with Extended Billet DCT Paddles, 19" Staggered VMR 710's
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igzekyativ Captain 142 Rep 758 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328xi Wagon Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Asheville, NC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 328xi [0.00]	so I got 225/35/19 and 265/30/19 based on this thread, but VMR is telling me that 235/35/19 and 265/30/19 is the recommendation for the 710's i plan to get. i am thinking about swapping up to the 235. General G-Max AS-03: 225 and 265 revs/mi - 815 and 821 235 and 265 revs/mi - 824 and 821 My concern is that with the 225, the front will be stretched more than the rear with the 265 and so the stretched-ness wont match front to back, thoughts anyone? __________________ 2007 328xi Wagon, Black Sapphire Metallic, Sports Package, Cold Weather Package, Rear PDC, Airlift kit with 3P mgmt, CF Akrym rep lip, LCI M-Tech front bumper, LUX Angel Eyes, Black Kidneys, LED Interior Lights, M3 Steering Wheel with Extended Billet DCT Paddles, 19" Staggered VMR 710's
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NYBulldog Specialist 1310 Rep 2,706 Posts Drives: Nikes Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NuYawk iTrader: (19)	Hey guys I want to put OEM 18" M3 Wheels on my E91 xDrive with WINTER tires. Since the wheels are staggered I can't buy 4 tires with the same specs without the rear tires getting stretched on a wider rim. E9X M3 219M Wheel Specs: 8.5 x 18 ET:29 9.5 x 18 ET:23 The only place that could give me a "matching height" set was Tirerack. Using the E92 LCI xDrive MSport 18" Specs they recommend this combination: Front: 225/40-18 Rear: 255/35-18 Anyone have any opinions on this? Attached are the specs. Attached Images __________________
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