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      07-06-2011, 12:10 PM   #1
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C63 BS revealed!









http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/258319/

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Mercedes’ most powerful C-Class — the 509bhp C63 AMG Coupé Black Series — goes on sale next spring with an estimated price tag of around £100,000.
Like all three previous Black Series Mercedes (see panel, right), the C63 sticks with a tried and tested formula of sledgehammer power, track-focused hard-core chassis and aggressive race-derived styling.
See pics of the Mercedes C63 AMG Coupé Black Series
Power comes from AMG’s 6.3-litre naturally aspirated V8 engine, which has forged pistons, conrods and crankshaft, a new engine control unit and a 50 per cent bigger oil cooler.
The prodigious output is channelled through a seven-speed AMG Speedshift transmission, which uses a wet, dual-clutch in place of the usual fluid coupling.
The transmission has four control settings and can snap through the gears in 100 milliseconds in the sportiest Sport Plus and Manual modes.
To boost the new Mercedes’ traction and improve its handling the rear axle features a limited slip differential that is allied to three stages of ESP stability control, one of which allows the system to be completely switched off.
Under the skin is a revised chassis with wider tracks — up 40mm at the front and 75mm at the rear — stiffer anti-roll bars and suspension with “numerous setting options”.
Upgraded brakes include bigger 390mm front discs, stopped by six-piston calipers, and 360mm discs at the rear, with four-piston calipers.
A two-seat cabin is standard, with an optional rear bench with individual seats, like the ‘cooking’ C63 AMG Coupé.
Race-style bucket seats and red-trimmed seatbelts with contrasting stitching add a sporty edge to the interior.
Firsts for the Black Series are an optional Track Package and the AMG Aerodynamic Package. Included in the Track Package is super-sticky Dunlop rubber and a differential cooler sited in the rear bumper apron.
The Aerodynamic Package features carbonfibre aerodynamic add-ons for the front bumper and a fixed, carbon rear spoiler.

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      07-06-2011, 12:22 PM   #2
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Hmm interesting. I can't wait to see more info appear in the upcoming days
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So they're sticking with the NA 6.2 motor. It's tuned to produce more hp and torque. It has a locking diff and the MCT. How is this going to be any better performance-wise than a regular C63 (coupe or sedan) with the AMG performance package (that also has some of the SLS M159 internals: pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft), and can be easily aftermarket tuned to further increase hp and torque? A 44 lb loss in weight isn't going to make this any quicker than a tuned C63 coupe and especially one with the optional performance package (and it also has the MCT, too.)

This appears to be more of a cosmetic package which is a bit disappointing. I guess we'll have to wait and see what else it has to offer that isn't already obtainable with the non-BS C63 coupe.
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      07-06-2011, 01:26 PM   #7
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Love the hood. Front pic looks beefy and aggressive.

I don't follow Merc at all, but do they offer a 6mt or DCT yet?

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So they're sticking with the NA 6.2 motor. It's tuned to produce more hp and torque. It has a locking diff and the MCT. How is this going to be any better performance-wise than a regular C63 (coupe or sedan) with the AMG performance package (that also has some of the SLS M159 internals: pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft), and can be easily aftermarket tuned to further increase hp and torque? A 44 lb loss in weight isn't going to make this any quicker than a tuned C63 coupe and especially one with the optional performance package (and it also has the MCT, too.)

This appears to be more of a cosmetic package which is a bit disappointing. I guess we'll have to wait and see what else it has to offer that isn't already obtainable with the non-BS C63 coupe.
Probably more focused on handling like the CLK Black was
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Wow this car looks amazing!
+1 Can't wait for more colors to show!
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Probably more focused on handling like the CLK Black was
I hope so. Although the new 2012 C63 coupe is being marketed with a newer tuned suspension. But yeah, we'll have to see when it's actually track tested.

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They have their MCT 7-speed. Has a wet start off clutch, not a torque converter like an automatic.

I think this car uses the Dual Clutch transmission from the SLS.
The article says it'll have the MCT.
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      07-06-2011, 04:13 PM   #13
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Wow those side shots

Really want to see one of these in person.
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Amazing looking car!

Anyone have performace specs?
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WOW. I know some people won't like how it looks but I think it's perfect. I love the fact that MB actually gave it unique details like the crazy front bumper. I don't like all the vents so much but overall I think it looks amazing. It even suits the red and the interior is really nice. I just hope the performance matches the looks!
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44lbs aint shit for a Black series. Weak.
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44lbs aint shit for a Black series. Weak.
If you'll recall, the CLK 63 Black Series actually weighed 5 kg more than the base CLK 63 (and that's the European model, which had lighter seats than the US spec model).
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This is the Black Series, not a Light Weight C63.

If it is anything like the CLK Black, it will be pure win.

BMW is the one making so-called light weight cars and leaving in idrive systems.
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M3 CRT = more of a joke than the GTS
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Wow, I cannot wait to get my hands on one.
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So they're sticking with the NA 6.2 motor. It's tuned to produce more hp and torque. It has a locking diff and the MCT. How is this going to be any better performance-wise than a regular C63 (coupe or sedan) with the AMG performance package (that also has some of the SLS M159 internals: pistons, connecting rods, and crankshaft), and can be easily aftermarket tuned to further increase hp and torque? A 44 lb loss in weight isn't going to make this any quicker than a tuned C63 coupe and especially one with the optional performance package (and it also has the MCT, too.)

This appears to be more of a cosmetic package which is a bit disappointing. I guess we'll have to wait and see what else it has to offer that isn't already obtainable with the non-BS C63 coupe.
An increase of HP to 517+ horses and 477 ft lbs of torque doesn't sound like it's only a cosmetic thing to me, but what do I know?

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This is the Black Series, not a Light Weight C63.

If it is anything like the CLK Black, it will be pure win.

BMW is the one making so-called light weight cars and leaving in idrive systems.
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Who cares about the Black Series I want to see Merc do a follow on for the CLK DTM, that was a beast.

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