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      02-22-2009, 02:55 AM   #89
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as i understand correct this gap "Upshift Softening Map 1" is for AT users? but MT users can also make 5.09804 or its not neccesary? does it related somehow with more power or not, thanks
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as i understand correct this gap "Upshift Softening Map 1" is for AT users? but MT users can also make 5.09804 or its not neccesary? does it related somehow with more power or not, thanks
As per the guidelines, no need to add upshift softening to 6MTs. Just leave it at 0. Adding it wont hurt but it's just unnecessary since shifting 6MTs involve throttle lifts which effectively do the same thing.

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As per the guidelines, no need to add upshift softening to 6MTs. Just leave it at 0. Adding it wont hurt but it's just unnecessary since shifting 6MTs involve throttle lifts which effectively do the same thing.

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MEH, Throttle lifts are Rookies ;P
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Well, that would be either your imagination or perhaps some effect of code/adaption clearing from your BT software

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I finally put some miles on my car today and the transmission is smoothing out. I would guess at this moment it was from resetting the codes and the transmission adaptation until I do more testing this week.

I just re-ran the BT and everything came back clean. It's nice to have this level of diagnosis.
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FYI: I had to lower my user torque down to 88% on Stage 1 Doomsday. There was a noticeable hesitation and surge around 4k. Using Shell 91.
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FYI: I had to lower my user torque down to 88% on Stage 1 Doomsday. There was a noticeable hesitation and surge around 4k. Using Shell 91.
There should be no surge or hesitation anywhere. And lowering UT by 2% shouldn't make any significant difference. I think something else is going on.

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There should be no surge or hesitation anywhere. And lowering UT by 2% shouldn't make any significant difference. I think something else is going on.

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I've done several runs with the lowered setting and the surge is gone. Some new sparkplugs are on the way as I have over 20k tuned miles. Could that be it?
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I've done several runs with the lowered setting and the surge is gone. Some new sparkplugs are on the way as I have over 20k tuned miles. Could that be it?
That could be the cause. 20k tuned miles is a lot. If new plugs don't solve the problem (although I suspect they will), let me know. Because these maps are as solid as they can be.

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As per the guidelines, no need to add upshift softening to 6MTs. Just leave it at 0. Adding it wont hurt but it's just unnecessary since shifting 6MTs involve throttle lifts which effectively do the same thing.

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Anyone else get a 1/2 engine light after loading the new firmware and maps?

I did but then restarted the car and it drives like a champ with no issues
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So as long as I have HFC aftermarket exhaust, I will never be able to run Stage 3 maps on the Procede? (Assuming I have catless DPs, FMIC, DCI)
I have catless DP, FMI, GruppeM airbox, AE exhaust with HFC.
Dustin told me by email to run the Stage 3 map.
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Anyone else get a 1/2 engine light after loading the new firmware and maps?

I did but then restarted the car and it drives like a champ with no issues
Did u update firmware with the engine running? If so, that will cause some fault codes. No problem updating maps with the engine running, just not firmware.

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      02-23-2009, 10:15 AM   #102
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Did u update firmware with the engine running? If so, that will cause some fault codes. No problem updating maps with the engine running, just not firmware.

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That's good to know!

Wasn't quite sure about the protocol.

What do the User Torque settings change in the tune and what rpm do they impact upon?
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That could be the cause. 20k tuned miles is a lot. If new plugs don't solve the problem (although I suspect they will), let me know. Because these maps are as solid as they can be.

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Will do. Not sure why my car is so boost sensitive...I see the other member who had similar issues with the previous 1-19 maps could not get it resolved and is now with a different tune. Same thing as mine....really took off after 4k, (although he said it felt sluggish before 4k). Here's a log with my reduced settings with boost at a proper scale. Seems to fluctuate but it's not felt in the power delivery and now it pulls hard all the way through.
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That's good to know!

Wasn't quite sure about the protocol.
Just for reference, more info about map/firmware loading can be found here:
http://216.120.252.228/forum/showthread.php?t=413

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What do the User Torque settings change in the tune and what rpm do they impact upon?
It has an impact on ALL engine speeds. Basically adjusts the "strength" of the tune, on a scale of 0 to 100, 0 means the tune is effectively negated. While 100 means that it is running at full/max aggression. The default is 90% which leaves a little room to go up in case you are running race gas. And a whole lot of room to go down in case you want to set up one map to be a lower boost version of itself.

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Anyone else get a 1/2 engine light after loading the new firmware and maps?

I did but then restarted the car and it drives like a champ with no issues
actually yes, I uploaded the new software to Mshao's car after installing his Helix FMIC and while idling it went into a limp.

I thought that f'd up one of the couplers for the front mount and had a boost leak. We restarted the car and all has been golden now on his car for almost 2 weeks.

no boost leaks, just tons of smooth power.
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Just for reference, more info about map/firmware loading can be found here:
http://216.120.252.228/forum/showthread.php?t=413



It has an impact on ALL engine speeds. Basically adjusts the "strength" of the tune, on a scale of 0 to 100, 0 means the tune is effectively negated. While 100 means that it is running at full/max aggression. The default is 90% which leaves a little room to go up in case you are running race gas. And a whole lot of room to go down in case you want to set up one map to be a lower boost version of itself.

Cheers,
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Thanks Shiv:

Just wondering if it affects mainly the boost targets? But I would speculate that other variables such as timing etc would go hand in hand with boost changes.

I guess the point to my question is whether one should see higher/lower boost values on the boost gauge as UT values go up or down.
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I guess the point to my question is whether one should see higher/lower boost values on the boost gauge as UT values go up or down.
The higher the UT, the higher the boost. But don't expect to discern a difference with a 1% change. Think of it like this and just as an example. If stock, 0% UT, is 7.5 and 100% UT is 15 PSI, 50% UT would be 11.25 PSI.
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The higher the UT, the higher the boost. But don't expect to discern a difference with a 1% change. Think of it like this and just as an example. If stock, 0% UT, is 7.5 and 100% UT is 15 PSI, 50% UT would be 11.25 PSI.
Thanks Steve!

I didn't realize this feature being new to the procede.

So you can "fine-tune" the tune....in a sense.

Nice!
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Thanks Shiv:

Just wondering if it affects mainly the boost targets? But I would speculate that other variables such as timing etc would go hand in hand with boost changes.
Correct. It effects boost and everything that goes hand-in-hand with it (timing, AFR, fuel pressure, etc).

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I guess the point to my question is whether one should see higher/lower boost values on the boost gauge as UT values go up or down.
As scalbert said, the higher the UT, the higher the boost. The only caveat we throw in there (besides the obvious 'more boost doesn't always mean more power') is not to raise UT above the defaults if you are concerned with diagnostic invisibility (post 29.2). However, this will soon not be an issue since the PROcede will be erasing hidden codes through the CANbus interface.

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I didn't realize this feature being new to the procede.

So you can "fine-tune" the tune....in a sense.

Nice!
It has always been in there and was RPM specific at one point.
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