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04-09-2009, 08:07 PM | #89 | |
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I almost made this same post earlier. The same thing that he has done here almost certainly WILL be done for any upgraded turbos as well (ASR may have already been done on the max HP pass). Overall this stuff has too be done to figure out given turbo setups max potential. He's pushing the envelope to determine what the stockers are capable of and I commend him for that.
Ever heard of people clamping wastegates shut, tossing in race gas, and making passes.... well this is essentially it. Rob Quote:
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Dyno charts please. Let's see how that big mouth stacks up...
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04-09-2009, 08:33 PM | #92 | |
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The ASR turbos and Canbus aren't changing the playing field for the grand majority. JB3+BT is still cheaper than a Procede and the BT Tool is handier to have than the Canbus feature. I hate to take part in the tuner wars however I had to respond to this idiotic post. |
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04-09-2009, 08:38 PM | #93 | |
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04-09-2009, 08:39 PM | #94 | |
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i think all tuners agree 15psi is safe limit. |
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04-09-2009, 09:02 PM | #95 | |
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04-09-2009, 09:07 PM | #96 |
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This type of post makes it sound like if a turbo setup hits x psi, they automatically grenade. This is not true. They will spin to the point of a choke point, at which point they cant spin much faster, blow tons of heat, and yes will wear at a faster rate. But, its not like its instant death... it could take quite some time before anything happens. You wouldnt want to run like this during everyday events like heading to the grocery store or going to pick up the kids forever and always, but occasional blasts arent going to kill anything. Other factors; such as aftermarket/misadjusted diverter valves or leaky induction systems are just as likely to cause problems.
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04-09-2009, 09:58 PM | #97 | |
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but he also said that if you do that: do not be surprised if not everything holds up past 100,000 miles
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04-09-2009, 11:26 PM | #98 | |
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the word floating around quite a bit is 5 grand turbos only : not tune no nothing. but they are supposed to be custom garrett ball tearing turbos, enlarged on both the hot and compressor sides. alot of - but not yet complete - info on the original ARS thread. back to OT guys: imho, terry got alot of horses out those stock turbos.
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04-10-2009, 02:34 AM | #99 |
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Thats good power with a nice graph but am I the only one that isnt happy with the AFR across the board. A bit too lean for my liking. I wonder what the EGT's are like.
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04-10-2009, 07:55 AM | #100 |
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Definitely looks lean but he's on race gas and perhaps can get away with it (othewise it would be knocking and not making power). I do agree but whatever is happening seems to be working pretty good...
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04-10-2009, 08:02 AM | #101 |
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Rob, isn't that the point of race gas though? We can run a leaner A/F and accept higher AITs?
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04-10-2009, 08:29 AM | #102 | |
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04-10-2009, 10:02 AM | #104 | |
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whatever the max power they get with this map, i would use a map that is a bit weaker (1 or 2 steps) and use it as a DD. when tuners push the boundaries, the consumer will always benefit in one way or another. my 2 cents
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04-10-2009, 12:15 PM | #105 | |
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Add to that the fact that better air filters and intercoolers etc prob spin the turbos a little slower to reach the same boost vs the same parts stock and you get the idea.
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