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04-10-2010, 02:18 PM | #23 | ||
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04-10-2010, 06:24 PM | #24 | |
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04-11-2010, 07:15 AM | #25 | |
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Thats the problem just because the car is AWD/4WD and maybe with winter tires ppl think they are invincible. |
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04-11-2010, 11:56 AM | #26 |
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Hi Everybody,
I want to say many posts on this site and this thread have been very helpful to me. I live in Denver but really want a 335i for its affordability, etc. So far I only find xi's for test drives at dealers, but we don't have any snow on the ground to test anyway! Talk about a passionate debate for some -whoa. Overall, I have read many positive reviews of rear drive with the highest-tech winter tires available. Also, people not surprisingly love the abilities of x-drive in weather conditions. I'm driving a '93 corolla. Its front drive, seasonal tires, and low mass have served me well over the last 6 winters, including many snowboarding trips. I'm looking forward to a car, 335i, that is a phenomenal upgrade in every department -I've never owned winter tires except some studded sets. If I could afford it, the xi would of course provide even better winter traction, but again I'm already looking forward to a substantial improvement. My dad owns a German auto shop and I expected, despite everything I've read, for a heavier 335xi (than my Corolla) to feel softer, or more disconnected like older MBs, like 300E or SL500 from early 90's. Not so - on dry pavement the 328 xi and 335 xi that I both drove felt like go-carts. Sharper and more nimble than my roll happy Co rolla! I'm psyched at this point -thanks for all the good info everyone. -PeteB |
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04-12-2010, 11:28 AM | #27 |
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BAH. too many mixed opinions. I want the 335.. If i HAVE to I might get the 328... It's either: 328xi... or 335i....
I'm just afraid I'll end up getting the 335i and wintertires then driving it in 2 feet of snow and regreting it. Plus I do... like mods. damn... EDIT: maybe I'll add weight to the trunk in the winter + snowtires? |
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04-12-2010, 03:08 PM | #28 |
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it was just regular city driving. i didn't even think that the ground was that icy and i was going about 10mph, slowly stepped on the brakes...and abs when off like crazy...and the car kept sliding...shitiest feeling having your ( at the time) 3 month old car slide almost into crossing traffic. my friends in their suvs did the same thing..and we all have dedicated snows on. I was just saying that we aren't as invincible as you think in awd..and HP snows....in that predicament, studded snows would have been perfect...lol
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04-12-2010, 05:03 PM | #29 | |
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An article in one of the popular car magazines said they loved their M3 as a daily driver, even during winter. They said the winter tires made the car track well through snow. I guess growing up in Colorado I expect to slide in snow and plan to drive like a slow defensive grandpa in the winter. -Pete |
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04-12-2010, 05:16 PM | #30 |
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Time to Chime in re: Acceleration
I sure have read a lot of debate for 335i vs. 335xi regarding the higher xi acceleration due to its increased traction.
I know some of the most common articles you can find online point out their experience of clocking higher 0-60 in the xi, but by 100 the weight difference prevails and the i is indeed ahead by enough fractions of a second to put the xi in its rearview mirror. Now I don't know how often I'll be hitting 100 (well, highway) or actually perceive this difference. Of course the ~250lbs. shows up slightly in mileage, but obviously the same engine will be quicker with a lighter load. The traction difference isn't enough overcome this by 100 mph. But who even cares? I obsess over this stuff and if you get either the i or xi you're getting phenomenal performance, the differences are splitting hairs. I'm sure xi is much more forgiving in snow but hey, it's more than just a 2000 dollar difference. I reviewed around 300 CPOs online recently- you can get a 335i under 30k miles for under $30k. To get this mileage with an xi, the price starts at $35K - big difference. Finally, I'm just about to order a 2007 335i: Sport, Premium, Cold, Comfort Access, Rear Park, Sunshades, and Active Steering. I've seen a few of these loaded manufacturer's vehicles online and they seem to be great deals. -PeteB. |
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04-14-2010, 07:17 PM | #35 |
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LOL at the people adding weight to the trunk of a 3500 lbs car w/ 50/50 weight distribution!
It's not a pick-up truck. Adding weight will do nothing for your traction and ruin the dynamics of the car in any conditions. |
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04-15-2010, 11:53 AM | #36 | |
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i had 6 speed 325i this last winter it did all right u just really got to watch wear your going , i traded it in for a 335xi but i drive 80 miles a day for work and we got a lot of heavy snow in kansas last year im not going through that again like they said if you dont have to go up a lot of hills rwd is all right
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04-23-2010, 09:25 PM | #38 | |
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Well I guess I live in a little microcosm where the laws of physics do not exist. It is a small area that gets around 400 inches of snow annually and I can tell you that our lighter cars are far superior to the heavy ones. The traction ability of tires is easily over come due to excessive weight on the contact patch when you consider the surface of ice and snow. The problem with weight on a low friction surface is that it is much more difficult to control than that of a lighter vehicle. It's that little aspect of traction called gravity that takes over all advantages that the pressure on the contact patch provides. |
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04-25-2010, 06:34 PM | #40 | |
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Then again, I like oversteering purposefully, thats what the 30ci is for |
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05-04-2010, 03:35 PM | #42 |
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I spend time in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia in Canada.
I used to drive a 323i and even with great snow tires, it came nowehere close to comparing to my 330xi's performance in the snow (with all seasons, at that). On slushy days the difference seems to be not as great, however the xi still prevails. Now do I miss the handling of RWD? Yes... But not as much as I hate digging my car out of a snowbank at 2:00 a.m. It all boils down to where you live. Out here we can have snow on the ground for 4 months so it was a no brainer for me to get the xi. |
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05-04-2010, 08:49 PM | #44 | |
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