Noise when turning wheels!

335iJWC · 09-14-2011, 10:49 PM

My car is making a loud click when fully turning to right or to the left while standing still.

I got two jacks and lifted the front and there is no noise when the wheels are off the ground.

I read something about possibly being the end links any input on this?

335iJWC · 09-15-2011, 09:12 AM

cstmx_ryder · 09-15-2011, 10:25 AM

Do you have upgraded suspension? If so, check the endlink first.

Is it making a 'clicking' sound or a 'gunk gunk' sound and vibrates the steering wheel a little?

335iJWC · 09-15-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

Do you have upgraded suspension? If so, check the endlink first.

Is it making a 'clicking' sound or a 'gunk gunk' sound and vibrates the steering wheel a little?

gunk gunk sound and steering vibrates a little, also noticed that the car drops a tiny bit before the sound.

i will take a video later today and post

cstmx_ryder · 09-15-2011, 12:04 PM

Dude that's EXACTLY the problem I'm having! I'm on PSS10s but I don't think it has to do with my upgraded suspension, because it started before I had upgraded an progressively gotten worse in the last year or so.....

I'm still trying to get to the bottoms of it. For me, it almost feels like there's a 'dead' spot when turning the steering wheel to the left, right before the wheel is cranked all the way....

I thought it might have something to do with the power steering fluid needing to be changed. Because I read in the DIY for the power steering fluid that others have experienced slight 'noise' when turning the steering wheel, and after they changed their PS fluid, they said the 'noise' had gone away....and the steering is 'smoother'.

So I think I might need to change my PS fluid to see if that solves my issue.

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

Quote:

Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

Do you have upgraded suspension? If so, check the endlink first.

Is it making a 'clicking' sound or a 'gunk gunk' sound and vibrates the steering wheel a little?

gunk gunk sound and steering vibrates a little, also noticed that the car drops a tiny bit before the sound.

i will take a video later today and post

enrita · 09-15-2011, 05:08 PM

i have the exakt same noise... also on PSS10. Might try to change fluid.

Fastfurious · 09-16-2011, 01:53 AM

It's the aftermarket springs on your car. I have the same problem. I brought it to my mechanic and he took out the spring (noise was coming from the front driver side) and reinstalled it and the noise went away. However now it's slowly coming back. I'm debating whether I want to go back to my stock springs now.

335iJWC · 09-16-2011, 09:26 AM

Took a video off the noise, i really dont think its steering fluid, definatetly suspension related.

will change out end links next week.

IllLojik · 09-16-2011, 10:57 AM

Could be the bearings in the top hat maybe, or as fastfurious mentioned, the Spring on that side. Sounds like it's moving within/btwn the perch.

335iJWC · 09-16-2011, 03:01 PM

Just bought the bentley manual and HP Autowerks adjustable end links.

ill check the springs and change the end links next week and see if that takes care of it.

enrita · 09-17-2011, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

Took a video off the noise, i really dont think its steering fluid, definatetly suspension related.

will change out end links next week.

sounds exactly like mine. Yours more pronounced though and happens earlier. Mine klunks it almost at the end twice.

cstmx_ryder · 09-17-2011, 01:11 PM

How is it that the bearings are causing that issue/sound? In trying to diagnose the sound that I hear/feel last night. We found out that the lowering perches were kinda loose on the driver side, which is the side experiencing the noise. So I'm going to try to tighten the perches to see if that solves the problem/noise.

Also, this is kinda OT, but are the front springs on a PSS10 suppose to rotate when you try to rotate it? Mine did when I tried, granted it wasn't freely rotating, but they did when I grabbed the springs and put some force behind it. Is this normal? The wheels were off and had no load on them....

TIA

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Originally Posted by IllLojik

Could be the bearings in the top hat maybe, or as fastfurious mentioned, the Spring on that side. Sounds like it's moving within/btwn the perch.

cstmx_ryder · 09-17-2011, 02:10 PM

I just saw your video, that's NOT the sound I'm getting when I turn my steering wheel. It can only be felt when my hands are on the steering wheel, not heard. Verified it last night when I had my cousin drive my car and I was outside next to the car.....

But I think I might have found the culprit. As I said, I was gonna tighten the lowering perches on the front suspensions, both sides. Well, after I tightened them, the 'gunk gunk' noise went away on the driver side, because I had to test it out to see if the other 'popping/clunking' noise went away, it did a little, but not completely. But what I noticed was that the 'gunk gunk' noise went away, and made turning of the steering wheel much smoother, no more 'dead' spot, as I had described in my other posts.

335iJWC · 09-17-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

I just saw your video, that's NOT the sound I'm getting when I turn my steering wheel. It can only be felt when my hands are on the steering wheel, not heard. Verified it last night when I had my cousin drive my car and I was outside next to the car.....

But I think I might have found the culprit. As I said, I was gonna tighten the lowering perches on the front suspensions, both sides. Well, after I tightened them, the 'gunk gunk' noise went away on the driver side, because I had to test it out to see if the other 'popping/clunking' noise went away, it did a little, but not completely. But what I noticed was that the 'gunk gunk' noise went away, and made turning of the steering wheel much smoother, no more 'dead' spot, as I had described in my other posts.

awesome! i hope i have the same luck next week when i try the new endlinks

cstmx_ryder · 09-17-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iJWC

awesome! i hope i have the same luck next week when i try the new endlinks

GL! BTW, did you try tightening the OE endlinks?

Those adjustable endlinks should be there Monday.....

jaredlevy · 11-09-2011, 11:58 AM

I don't know if it's the same, but it may be your CV boot. I had this issue on a previous car.

ontopofm · 11-11-2011, 01:29 PM

my car has the same noise like in the video

ontopofm · 11-23-2011, 10:57 AM

update: i had the same noise. My engine mounts were bad, I had them replaced and now the noise is gone.

Wickede92 · 12-02-2011, 01:57 AM

i am having the same noise in the video. it sounds like it is only coming from the front driver side. i am riding on kw v2's. did you guys figured out the problem??

DESMO748 · 01-08-2012, 09:07 PM

My car makes a similar sound--"clunk clunk"; it's little lower/heavier sound than the one on the video. Bringing the car to the dealership on 1/12. Will post an update afterwards.

BTW - I'm on stock performance package suspension.

DESMO748 · 01-12-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DESMO748

My car makes a similar sound--"clunk clunk"; it's little lower/heavier sound than the one on the video. Bringing the car to the dealership on 1/12. Will post an update afterwards.

BTW - I'm on stock performance package suspension.

Notes from the technician.

"Verified normal noise from when brakes are applied and steering is worked left or right while vehicle is stationary. Due to pads gripping rotor and steering articulating while steering while steering wheel is turned."

They also tested steering left and right while on the lift--no noise. The noise occurs when the pads are worn and need replacing [soon].

Hope this helps.

PTek Will · 03-09-2013, 02:47 AM

I have the same sound. Took the wheel off and noticed a scuff mark on the piping sleeve on passenger side. The bracket holding the brake line attached to the swaybar endlink is rubbing against the ribbed tubing.. Hence the click click. Not sure what to do.. Lol maybe ill try to mount it somehow a little higher for clearance..

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cstmx_ryder Colonel 164 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	Do you have upgraded suspension? If so, check the endlink first. Is it making a 'clicking' sound or a 'gunk gunk' sound and vibrates the steering wheel a little? __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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Fastfurious Private First Class 5 Rep 121 Posts Drives: bmw Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada iTrader: (3)	It's the aftermarket springs on your car. I have the same problem. I brought it to my mechanic and he took out the spring (noise was coming from the front driver side) and reinstalled it and the noise went away. However now it's slowly coming back. I'm debating whether I want to go back to my stock springs now.
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335iJWC ~~~ 24 Rep 592 Posts Drives: JB 335i-M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Simi Valley iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [9.00]	Took a video off the noise, i really dont think its steering fluid, definatetly suspension related. will change out end links next week.
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IllLojik Lieutenant 51 Rep 473 Posts Drives: //'12 F30 328i\\ Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (2)	Could be the bearings in the top hat maybe, or as fastfurious mentioned, the Spring on that side. Sounds like it's moving within/btwn the perch.
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335iJWC ~~~ 24 Rep 592 Posts Drives: JB 335i-M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Simi Valley iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [9.00]	Just bought the bentley manual and HP Autowerks adjustable end links. ill check the springs and change the end links next week and see if that takes care of it.
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cstmx_ryder Colonel 164 Rep 2,875 Posts Drives: A metal box with a roundel Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (2)	I just saw your video, that's NOT the sound I'm getting when I turn my steering wheel. It can only be felt when my hands are on the steering wheel, not heard. Verified it last night when I had my cousin drive my car and I was outside next to the car..... But I think I might have found the culprit. As I said, I was gonna tighten the lowering perches on the front suspensions, both sides. Well, after I tightened them, the 'gunk gunk' noise went away on the driver side, because I had to test it out to see if the other 'popping/clunking' noise went away, it did a little, but not completely. But what I noticed was that the 'gunk gunk' noise went away, and made turning of the steering wheel much smoother, no more 'dead' spot, as I had described in my other posts. __________________ '08 AW E90 335i PROcede V5 \| BMS DCI \| RR DPs \| ETS FMIC \| FORGE DVs \| Stett CP \| Vanguard \| PSS10
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jaredlevy Private First Class 10 Rep 195 Posts Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Island, New York iTrader: (0)	I don't know if it's the same, but it may be your CV boot. I had this issue on a previous car.
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ontopofm Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,548 Posts Drives: stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (4)	my car has the same noise like in the video
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ontopofm Lieutenant Colonel 76 Rep 1,548 Posts Drives: stock Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CA iTrader: (4)	update: i had the same noise. My engine mounts were bad, I had them replaced and now the noise is gone.
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Wickede92 Captain 17 Rep 669 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (3)	i am having the same noise in the video. it sounds like it is only coming from the front driver side. i am riding on kw v2's. did you guys figured out the problem??
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DESMO748 Private First Class 7 Rep 132 Posts Drives: e90 N54 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: SF iTrader: (0)	My car makes a similar sound--"clunk clunk"; it's little lower/heavier sound than the one on the video. Bringing the car to the dealership on 1/12. Will post an update afterwards. BTW - I'm on stock performance package suspension.
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PTek Will Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 268 Posts Drives: 335i coupe Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: san jose iTrader: (0)	I have the same sound. Took the wheel off and noticed a scuff mark on the piping sleeve on passenger side. The bracket holding the brake line attached to the swaybar endlink is rubbing against the ribbed tubing.. Hence the click click. Not sure what to do.. Lol maybe ill try to mount it somehow a little higher for clearance..
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