What would you ask? Valuation guidance.

Hotcoupe · 11-20-2012, 03:24 AM

I've had a look at both the BMW AUC site,and Autotrader,and there's not a lot to compare against,so what sort of money would you be asking for this:

BMW 335d M-Sport Coupe 2dr 2008 ('58' Nov Registered)

33,100 mls
1 yrs MOT from Nov 2012
5mths road tax
Full BMW service history,
Azurite Black Metallic paint
Cream Beige Dakota leather
BMW Individual Piano Black with inlay
Navigation-system Professional
BMW Assist, BMW Assist online portal
Enhanced Bluetooth telephone functionality
SA3 Pricing Rule for 620 Voice Control
Front Armrest with sliding adjustment
Auto transmission with paddle shift
M Sport leather steering wheel,
Electric Folding Exterior Mirrors
Heated Front Seats with driver memory
Sun protection glass
M light-alloy wheels double spoke 225M
Rear-view mirror automatic dimming
Park Distance Control (PDC) rear
Rain sensor with automatic headlight activate
Automatic Air Conditioning
Cruise control

In excellent condition.

£xxxxxx ?

Many thanks in advance.

phil200tdi · 11-20-2012, 03:37 AM

Extended warranty?

My gut feel is about £17k-18k.

Hotcoupe · 11-20-2012, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil200tdi

Extended warranty?

My gut feel is about £17k-18k.

No extended warranty,although that's easily organised.
It's not something I previously considered,as the car was extensively modified,and the extended warranty would be a waste of money.

I was hoping,perhaps naively, for a bit more than 18K

RagingKileak · 11-20-2012, 04:17 AM

I think more like 20-22. Had the ideal spec without anything 'over and above', it's a D which adds way more onto an I than most of us I owners want to admit and it is one of very few with reasonable mileage.

If it has the newer nav (which I don't suppose it will) then mores the better, but just having it will be enough for most buyers.

Matt

Kerr · 11-20-2012, 04:24 AM

Parker's guide says £18,700 before you add options.

davyk31 · 11-20-2012, 04:40 AM

I would reckon 17-18k is not a bad shout, perhaps even a bit optimistic. As we know options count for very little in real money terms but perhaps attract a buyer. Nav is one of the few exceptions which of course does add a bit of money. Wouldn't bother listing the items in your list above which are standard equipment, people get bored reading a list and can miss out on the things that are genuine extras that distinguish your car.

The market will decide its worth anyway once you post it up.

phil200tdi · 11-20-2012, 04:42 AM

BMW approved cars of similar age/mileage going for £21k - with discounts, warranty and Part Exchange yours will be worth £2k less in my opinion.

But yours is a very high spec in a desirable colour combo, £20k might be about right.

Hotcoupe · 11-20-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RagingKileak

I think more like 20-22. Had the ideal spec without anything 'over and above', it's a D which adds way more onto an I than most of us I owners want to admit and it is one of very few with reasonable mileage.

If it has the newer nav (which I don't suppose it will) then mores the better, but just having it will be enough for most buyers.

Matt

It was ex-BMW,so has a nice spec,and as you say,has what are the most desirable options.
It does have the newer sat nav,fortunately the car was at the very beginning of the manufacturing line that benefitted from this newer system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil200tdi

BMW approved cars of similar age/mileage going for £21k - with discounts, warranty and Part Exchange yours will be worth £2k less in my opinion.

But yours is a very high spec in a desirable colour combo, £20k might be about right.

I was looking at around 20-21K in honesty,based on what I had managed to find to compare against.

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyk31

I would reckon 17-18k is not a bad shout, perhaps even a bit optimistic. As we know options count for very little in real money terms but perhaps attract a buyer. Nav is one of the few exceptions which of course does add a bit of money. Wouldn't bother listing the items in your list above which are standard equipment, people get bored reading a list and can miss out on the things that are genuine extras that distinguish your car.

The market will decide its worth anyway once you post it up.

I'd agree in part about the list,however not everyone is fully up to speed on what's an option or standard equipment on a 335D M Sport,the ad,when I've arrived at a reasonable price will go on Autotrader,where the peeps are not always as knowledgeable as the members on here.

Thanks for the input so far Guys,perhaps I could ask this question:

What amount of mark up would you expect a BMW dealer to put on a car that he had bought outright,no p/ex?

I won't mention a figure I've been offered,as I don't want to influence any answers.

Thanks

Real Thing · 11-20-2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotcoupe

Thanks for the input so far Guys,perhaps I could ask this question:

What amount of mark up would you expect a BMW dealer to put on a car that he had bought outright,no p/ex?

I won't mention a figure I've been offered,as I don't want to influence any answers.

Thanks

Would Expect a Main Dealer to Steal it of you and have about £4K-£5K Profit in it
Birds were looking for stock couple of weeks back sent me an email and creepy coupe started a thread here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769363
Might be worth giving Jason a Call if your looking for a quick sale but this time of year don't think anybody will give strong money if it's just for stock
Good Luck

Sir_Pigley · 11-20-2012, 06:23 AM

£21k would be pushing it for a private sale. £19k - £20k would be more like it - with that spec and mileage.

I would expect a dealer to put and asking price of £3k - £4k on top of what he paid you for it.

zltm089 · 11-20-2012, 07:22 AM

How many owners?...

Hmm about £20k sounds about right....

davyk31 · 11-20-2012, 10:02 AM

Dealer will firstly factor in fictional average refurb costs of £1500, if your car doesn't need refurb then thats extra profit. Then they would seek about 20% on top of that.

Therefore say they give you 16k for your car, that turns into a 21k asking price, they drop a bit off this but if they have saved on refurb its smiles all the way. If it sits around a while this again eats into their profit in extra depreciation but again there is plenty of room to move.

AlanYoro35i · 11-20-2012, 11:51 AM

20K sound right!! let it go for 19,500?

As there isn't many good examples around so serious buyers who know his stuff will buy!

Hotcoupe · 11-20-2012, 04:28 PM

Many thanks for the input & guidance Chaps

,it's made my pricing decision a lot clearer now.

dxb335d · 11-20-2012, 04:32 PM

GLWS mate!

sheps · 11-20-2012, 04:38 PM

Have I missed something? How come you're getting shot, Ian?
Sticking around, I hope?

Kerr · 11-20-2012, 04:44 PM

To be fair though, a car retaining 45% of its value after over 4 years isn't bad.

Cyprio · 11-20-2012, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Thing

Would Expect a Main Dealer to Steal it of you and have about £4K-£5K Profit in it
Birds were looking for stock couple of weeks back sent me an email and creepy coupe started a thread here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=769363
Might be worth giving Jason a Call if your looking for a quick sale but this time of year don't think anybody will give strong money if it's just for stock
Good Luck

That much! Feckin thieving bastards!

Hope you get close to what you want for it H/coupe.

A_P · 11-21-2012, 08:27 AM

Ian,

There have been some real good feedback above, so i cant really add to that. But I will say is, If your selling privately, many people go to view the car and then are sold on both the car and the buyer. Your a nice guy and therefore coupling your nature and that the fact your not in a rush you might aswell start high in your pricing.

Why not? Good quality well looked after cars deserve a premium.

All the best mate.

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Hotcoupe Major General 191 Rep 6,110 Posts Drives: Don't know yet! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (2) Garage List November 2008 335D ... [8.34] 2007 335D [0.00]	What would you ask? Valuation guidance. I've had a look at both the BMW AUC site,and Autotrader,and there's not a lot to compare against,so what sort of money would you be asking for this: BMW 335d M-Sport Coupe 2dr 2008 ('58' Nov Registered) 33,100 mls 1 yrs MOT from Nov 2012 5mths road tax Full BMW service history, Azurite Black Metallic paint Cream Beige Dakota leather BMW Individual Piano Black with inlay Navigation-system Professional BMW Assist, BMW Assist online portal Enhanced Bluetooth telephone functionality SA3 Pricing Rule for 620 Voice Control Front Armrest with sliding adjustment Auto transmission with paddle shift M Sport leather steering wheel, Electric Folding Exterior Mirrors Heated Front Seats with driver memory Sun protection glass M light-alloy wheels double spoke 225M Rear-view mirror automatic dimming Park Distance Control (PDC) rear Rain sensor with automatic headlight activate Automatic Air Conditioning Cruise control In excellent condition. £xxxxxx ? Many thanks in advance. __________________ ================================= Never argue with an idiot on the internet. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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RagingKileak Brigadier General 191 Rep 4,655 Posts Drives: M3 CS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (2)	I think more like 20-22. Had the ideal spec without anything 'over and above', it's a D which adds way more onto an I than most of us I owners want to admit and it is one of very few with reasonable mileage. If it has the newer nav (which I don't suppose it will) then mores the better, but just having it will be enough for most buyers. Matt
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davyk31 Major General 1036 Rep 6,944 Posts Drives: Macan GTS :-) & F40 M135i Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Northern Ireland iTrader: (0)	I would reckon 17-18k is not a bad shout, perhaps even a bit optimistic. As we know options count for very little in real money terms but perhaps attract a buyer. Nav is one of the few exceptions which of course does add a bit of money. Wouldn't bother listing the items in your list above which are standard equipment, people get bored reading a list and can miss out on the things that are genuine extras that distinguish your car. The market will decide its worth anyway once you post it up.
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phil200tdi Colonel 112 Rep 2,621 Posts Drives: 335i M Sport E90 LCI manual Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aylesbury iTrader: (1)	BMW approved cars of similar age/mileage going for £21k - with discounts, warranty and Part Exchange yours will be worth £2k less in my opinion. But yours is a very high spec in a desirable colour combo, £20k might be about right. __________________ Car: e91 330d with Viezu map Gone but not forgotten: 2010 Jaguar XFR (Cat-back exhaust, pulley, intake mods and map), Highly Modified E90 335i LCI M Sport Manual (circa 480BHP/500lb ft)
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A_P Lieutenant Colonel 57 Rep 1,698 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: South East iTrader: (0)	Ian, There have been some real good feedback above, so i cant really add to that. But I will say is, If your selling privately, many people go to view the car and then are sold on both the car and the buyer. Your a nice guy and therefore coupling your nature and that the fact your not in a rush you might aswell start high in your pricing. Why not? Good quality well looked after cars deserve a premium. All the best mate.
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