[Zeph]

Well, I don't have DP's. I don't know which ones I would get if I did decide to buy them anyway. But I won't buy the most expensive DP's if I think the guy selling them is cool, and I won't buy the cheapest DP's just because they are the cheapest. I will get 3" dp's since they have shown proof of more power on the dyno. I don't like how the AR guy has come on this forum bashing other DP's in a childish effort to promote himself... just don't like his attitude about many things in general to be honest. I also don't really want to support the BB ones if in fact they really are a stolen design. Match Snell seems to be the best vendor, IMO, atleast to this point. They seem to have a good price for coated DP's although still a bit high considering they are just steel pipes with mandrel bends. Of course AR probably has the most reviews and approvals on this board for their product, but that doesn't mean the others aren't as good just not as popular.

Business is business and you have to be competitive to survive. I won't buy anything that is over-priced regardless of how much I like a vendor or a product. You can't just sit on a pedastal thinking you are #1 and wonder why people take their business elsewhere when prices are sky high.

[wonsungnabi]

Originally Posted by RBC

At "the other forum" there is a review that states: "right side dp(shorter one of two) was where we had little trouble with... i had to remove right side metal heat shield, which was right next to right side dp, to make both pipes fit in. if i didn't remove the heat shield it wouldn't fit."

I was almost ready to jump into these DPs but with this information I am thinking it over...

Also, I am not very comfortable with this information (from the same review):

"my only complaint is that i guess because of rumble, some part of interior trim pieces now rattle which there is no way of fixing it unless u strip your interior trims. i don't know if i'm the only one experiencing this... i do have rattles from turbos as well and i could definitely hear rattles louder after dp install but hopefully with PROCEDE V4, it will go away."

I read the review too. The installer had 0 experience on our cars according to him.

[Craig@SupremePower]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

You have to do what you feel is best for you. I can tell you that AR Design has been here for us for a long time. They have created innovative products all along and they were there when another DP company failed a ton of members on here. They are continuing to create innovative products for our car and we should understand that our support dictates who will serve our community. You can draw your own conclusions on the BB situation, but I think the information I posted above should give you a firm understanding of who you are buying from and supporting.

+1... AR Design FTMFW!!

[whn]

I've BB dps and installation will be on saturday

[mobilefitt@aol.com]

sending them back

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by mobilefitt@aol.com

sending them back

Damn...I am glad I paid the extra bucks for my ARs...I would have been pissed if I went through all that work to find out that the pipes don't fit...I also read from another person that there was an exhaust leak because of the exhaust flange didn't line up with the midpipes...Good luck

[Bimmer This]

Originally Posted by mobilefitt@aol.com

sending them back

How bad were they? Was it off a little or a lot? Please explain.

[cn555ic]

Thats why paying a little more for AR 3" DPs which has 100% feedback for fitment and quality is sometimes more important than saving some money...I would be pissed after 17 hours of trying and then not being able to finish because of fitment issues!! Check this thread post #295

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showth...t=5840&page=12

[cn555ic]

WOW someone drove a long way to get his BB DPs installed to find out that it didn't fit that really sucks...As quoted from the person...There are going to be alot of unhappy people from BB's group buy thats for sure....


"So after driving 350 MILES to shop for installation... pipes didn't fit
I drove 700 MILES for nothing.. kinda sucks ass.."

[psu139]

if fitment is your concern get the cp-e pipes. they fit like a glove. out of the three different brands i've installed these are the only pipes that fit exactly like stock pipes.

[AlpineG05]

Arent cp-e dps 2.5" though?

[psu139]

they start as 3" but go down to 2.5" after the bell mouth. then again all dp's for the 335 end at 2.5"

[whn]

Originally Posted by cn555ic

WOW someone drove a long way to get his BB DPs installed to find out that it didn't fit that really sucks...As quoted from the person...There are going to be alot of unhappy people from BB's group buy thats for sure....


"So after driving 350 MILES to shop for installation... pipes didn't fit
I drove 700 MILES for nothing.. kinda sucks ass.."

btw. That someone was me

and that really sucks ass. It's time go with AR dp's !

[ar design]

Originally Posted by whn

btw. That someone was me

and that really sucks ass. It's time go with AR dp's !

[bulldog_yyc]

A/R design all the way

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by whn

btw. That someone was me

and that really sucks ass. It's time go with AR dp's !

why did they erase the post at the other forum? I hope your getting your money refunded....

[possible335i2008]

yeah I was all about these dp's on the other forum until I heard about 1 install needing to remove the heatsheild to make these fit, then there was a problem with gaskets and hardware, and then his response to the intial problem wasn't adequate to me, either way glad I didn't jump on this one and one thing If you are going to make a copy, make sure that you make it an exact copy