My JB3 Experience

billspreston · 08-07-2008, 04:30 PM

Went up to Terry's last weekend and we put a JB3 Beta in the car. Some issues were had with the PNP harness, but needless to say this is going to be a truly simple system when the production version rolls out and Terry's customer service is top notch as always.

Coming from the JB2, the allure of the JB3 was not necessarily the power, but the increased control the unit offers allowing for smoother delivery of that power. With catless downpipes, the JB2 is very unpleasant in 1st and 2nd gear. Boost comes on almost instantly making for a really jerky experience that makes the car uncomfortable to drive at low speeds and in traffic. Things get even worse the R switch is engaged. It was so bad I was at times embarrassed when passengers would make comments about it. The power was strong, but the smooth nature of my BMW engine had all but disappeared!

Enter the JB3 - problem solved! Boost is now delivered in a much more linear fashion and the car feels as smooth as it did when stock, with much more grunt (obviously). The JB3 recognizes situations where downpipes are present and tunes the car accordingly. The car really rips up top, where a stock engine or even a JB2 begins to choke up. I could not be happier with the steps Terry has made with the new JB3. It is clearly a much more sophisticated product and the smooth power delivery is a complete joy to experience. It may sound silly, but the car even 'sounds' smoother and yes I'm being serious.

dmboone25 · 08-07-2008, 04:34 PM

Great review--everything so far seems really positive on the JB3.

I am

over this bad boy !

joec500 · 08-07-2008, 04:39 PM

I am also guessing this smoother power delivery is much easier on the motor....I might actually risk my warranty for this tune....

cn555ic · 08-07-2008, 04:40 PM

congrats on the install of the JB3...Everything I have heard about the tune has been positive...The JB2 compared to the JB3 is so much different I see and seems to be much improved and smoother!

e92phreak · 08-07-2008, 04:40 PM

Great write-up.

And I still remember the days when people poked fun at Terry for his Radio-Shack experiment. Now who has the last laugh? Though it was not his intent to participate in this battle of the tunes (people here and another tuner provoked it), he has clearly demonstrated professionality, quality, customer service, coupled with a great product.

Way to go BMS.

And thanks for your writeup billpreston. Can't wait to see your reincarnated car.

billspreston · 08-07-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by e92phreak

Great write-up.

And I still remember the days when people poked fun at Terry for his Radio-Shack experiment. Now who has the last laugh? Though it was not his intent to participate in this battle of the tunes (people here and another tuner provoked it), he has clearly demonstrated professionality, quality, customer service, coupled with a great product.

Way to go BMS.

And thanks for your writeup billpreston. Can't wait to see your reincarnated car.

LOL Terry and I were having a laugh about the very first JB sold in the marketplace. Good times. The JB3 is a huge step in the right direction and is going to do big things for BMS.

e92phreak · 08-07-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by billspreston

LOL Terry and I were having a laugh about the very first JB sold in the marketplace. Good times. The JB3 is a huge step in the right direction and is going to do big things for BMS.

I hope he still has a JB1 with my name on it.

dmboone25 · 08-07-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by e92phreak

+1

lawdude · 08-07-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by e92phreak

Though it was not his intent to participate in this battle of the tunes (people here and another tuner provoked it),

Props to his product and his CS. Nevertheless, if it weren't for his pathological hatred for Shiv, there might never have been a BMS.

As to his intent to participate in battle of the tunes, TB does not have clean hands.

ontopofm · 08-07-2008, 05:19 PM

lawdude, i love to read ur posts

darkphantom · 08-07-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coldasicex5

i might have to sell my SSTT soon -- don't get me wrong, its a great starter tune for anyone that's saving up for a stronger one in the future

yeah but we don't really understand the reliability of tunes pushing 15psi on a normal basis...not to mention the SSTT doesn't tamper with fuel...

This is very interesting, but i'll wait and see how the guinea pigs deal with it

e90AW335i · 08-07-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by darkphantom

yeah but we don't really understand the reliability of tunes pushing 15psi on a normal basis...not to mention the SSTT doesn't tamper with fuel...

This is very interesting, but i'll wait and see how the guinea pigs deal with it

Have you had a chance to ride in a car with an aggresive tune?

TMR · 08-07-2008, 06:31 PM

Ive been driving my friends 335iwhile my car gets the suspention instaled and his car with the JB3 is unreal. It feel completely like a stocker but with alot more power when you put your foot in it. It trips me out, i jump on it, i feel like im not going to fast, i look down, im going 100. Ive put about 2K miles on the JB3 already and not a single hiccup. Ive gone from 100 degree weather to 60 by the beach and no problems. missed a shift, pegged the speedo... no problem. Terry did a great job on it. Not to mention when he installed it on this car, he was completely friendly and knowledgeable. Can wait to be able to have it on my car.

dhan · 08-07-2008, 06:36 PM

i haven't heard a single complaint yet...at least nothing big has been brought up besides some pins coming loose. solid.

ThePrinzeofcatz · 08-07-2008, 07:09 PM

question, are people reserving jb3's already? because i wanna try to get my hands on one as soon as it comes out

dhan · 08-07-2008, 07:12 PM

no pre-sales according to terry

Ron@Modbargains · 08-07-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dhan

no pre-sales according to terry

Well, we're taking the orders its just a pre-sell with us. And we hold a spot for them at first come first serve for now.

Great review

One of the most anticipated tuner chips to come out in a long time.

RiXst3r · 08-07-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePrinzeofcatz

question, are people reserving jb3's already? because i wanna try to get my hands on one as soon as it comes out

Your best chance is to get your order in to a direct seller like me or terry the moment it goes on sale...

because....

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Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS

RixEffects has a pretty unique relationship with us (bms), their store basically points to our website. So purchasing from them is more or less the same as purchasing from us direct. Only you are asked to contact RixEffects as your primary support contact.

uberschnell · 08-07-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Props to his product and his CS. Nevertheless, if it weren't for his pathological hatred for Shiv, there might never have been a BMS.

As to his intent to participate in battle of the tunes, TB does not have clean hands.

There is something Shakespearean about this, no?

cn555ic · 08-07-2008, 08:24 PM

This is a great review and those of you who have been reading the other reviews about JB3 would see that this is a unbiased review of a tune which many of us welcome it, and enjoy reading the thread...Again this review makes me want to try out the JB3....It sounds like a great tune and the price alone is without a doubt unbeatable...Lets see what the future entails for me!!!

e90AW335i · 08-07-2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

This is a great review and those of you who have been reading the other reviews about JB3 would see that this is a unbiased review of a tune which many of us welcome it, and enjoy reading the thread...Again this review makes me want to try out the JB3....It sounds like a great tune and the price alone is without a doubt unbeatable...Lets see what the future entails for me!!!

mistermojorizin · 08-07-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lawdude

Props to his product and his CS. Nevertheless, if it weren't for his pathological hatred for Shiv, there might never have been a BMS.

As to his intent to participate in battle of the tunes, TB does not have clean hands.

can you tell me more about the board lore of TB and Shiv and why any claim TB has may not sound in equity (due to unclean hands).

08-07-2008, 04:30 PM	#1
billspreston Colonel 336 Rep 2,253 Posts Drives: G87 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (13)	My JB3 Experience Went up to Terry's last weekend and we put a JB3 Beta in the car. Some issues were had with the PNP harness, but needless to say this is going to be a truly simple system when the production version rolls out and Terry's customer service is top notch as always. Coming from the JB2, the allure of the JB3 was not necessarily the power, but the increased control the unit offers allowing for smoother delivery of that power. With catless downpipes, the JB2 is very unpleasant in 1st and 2nd gear. Boost comes on almost instantly making for a really jerky experience that makes the car uncomfortable to drive at low speeds and in traffic. Things get even worse the R switch is engaged. It was so bad I was at times embarrassed when passengers would make comments about it. The power was strong, but the smooth nature of my BMW engine had all but disappeared! Enter the JB3 - problem solved! Boost is now delivered in a much more linear fashion and the car feels as smooth as it did when stock, with much more grunt (obviously). The JB3 recognizes situations where downpipes are present and tunes the car accordingly. The car really rips up top, where a stock engine or even a JB2 begins to choke up. I could not be happier with the steps Terry has made with the new JB3. It is clearly a much more sophisticated product and the smooth power delivery is a complete joy to experience. It may sound silly, but the car even 'sounds' smoother and yes I'm being serious.
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joec500 Brigadier General 125 Rep 3,004 Posts Drives: it has 4 wheels Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (10)	I am also guessing this smoother power delivery is much easier on the motor....I might actually risk my warranty for this tune....
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	congrats on the install of the JB3...Everything I have heard about the tune has been positive...The JB2 compared to the JB3 is so much different I see and seems to be much improved and smoother!
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TMR Brigadier General 394 Rep 3,161 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Torrance iTrader: (12)	Ive been driving my friends 335iwhile my car gets the suspention instaled and his car with the JB3 is unreal. It feel completely like a stocker but with alot more power when you put your foot in it. It trips me out, i jump on it, i feel like im not going to fast, i look down, im going 100. Ive put about 2K miles on the JB3 already and not a single hiccup. Ive gone from 100 degree weather to 60 by the beach and no problems. missed a shift, pegged the speedo... no problem. Terry did a great job on it. Not to mention when he installed it on this car, he was completely friendly and knowledgeable. Can wait to be able to have it on my car.
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dhan Lieutenant 20 Rep 558 Posts Drives: '11 TiAg E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	i haven't heard a single complaint yet...at least nothing big has been brought up besides some pins coming loose. solid.
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ThePrinzeofcatz Captain 49 Rep 642 Posts Drives: e92 335i MT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Florida iTrader: (3)	question, are people reserving jb3's already? because i wanna try to get my hands on one as soon as it comes out __________________ Sleeper...
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dhan Lieutenant 20 Rep 558 Posts Drives: '11 TiAg E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	no pre-sales according to terry
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	This is a great review and those of you who have been reading the other reviews about JB3 would see that this is a unbiased review of a tune which many of us welcome it, and enjoy reading the thread...Again this review makes me want to try out the JB3....It sounds like a great tune and the price alone is without a doubt unbeatable...Lets see what the future entails for me!!!
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