[marty_mcfly]

[imoksoami]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm not going to retract anything until a proper inspection is done

Still calling him a cheat?? Oh that's right, you're back hiding behind a screen.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by imoksoami

Still calling him a cheat?? Oh that's right, you're back hiding behind a screen.

Actually everything I said here, I said to him personally.

Furthermore, I think you should get with the program and realize that racing is racing. When someone thinks someone else isn't fully disclosing everything, and calls them out for a full inspection, there is nothing personal involved. I did this all the time when I was the Tech Steward for US Touring Car a couple years back. And I thought no less of people who bent (or even blatantly broke) the rules. In fact, I was usually impressed with their creativity. I still had a drink when them after the race. And there were never any hard feelings after the fact.

In the case of e90post.com drag racing, there aren't even any rules to begin with. And even if hotrod's car was inpected and caught running nitrous, it wouldn't make him any more of a cheat than the others who run race gas maps and say they are running pump gas. Or rip out the interior when say that the car is full weight. This is just the nature of competition. And it doesn't make someone any less of a human being.

Good poker players aren't bad people. They are just good poker players

Cheers,
shiv

[sd390r]

this thread = going to be closed soon lol

think about it guys

3/4 tank of straight VP MS109, jb3 running race gas map custom tuned HIGH BOOST, and DRs

+

warrens AT and driving ability

= about the right times, no?

I would hope itd be alot better if he was on nitrous

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Actually everything I said here, I said to him personally.

Furthermore, I think you should get with the program and realize that racing is racing. When someone thinks someone else isn't fully disclosing everything, and calls them out for a full inspection, there is nothing personal involved. I did this all the time when I was the Tech Steward for US Touring Car a couple years back. And I thought no less of people who bent (or even blatantly broke) the rules. In fact, I was usually impressed with their creativity.

In the case of e90post.com drag racing, there aren't even any rules to begin with. And even if hotrod was caught of running nitrous, it wouldn't make him any more of a cheat than the others who run race gas maps and say they are running pump gas. Or rip out the interior when say that the car is full weight. This is just the nature of competition. And it doesn't make someone any less of a human being

Cheers,
shiv

damn shiv... you are a "real" jerk ...

and as to shivs comments..
some people just need a sense of humor on these boards.

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by sd390r

this thread = going to be closed soon lol

think about it guys

3/4 tank of straight VP MS109, jb3 running race gas map custom tuned HIGH BOOST, and DRs

+

warrens AT and driving ability

= about the right times, no?

I would hope itd be alot better if he was on nitrous

every freakin thread gets closed on e90post.. lol...

[brusso]

Shiv didn't use the word cheat you did. I think the original offer still stands. If Warren shows up at a dyno and let's Shiv check out the car and proves Warren is running exactly what he says he may still be willing to pay out some cash.

Everyone here would show up for a free dyno and inspection for that kind of cash. Except Warren .... so far....

[exidisjon]

Im curious about how he broke in the car as well...Hard break-in or manual break in/?

[Alex@AKMotorwerk]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

every freakin thread gets closed on e90post.. lol...

+1

Great runs Hotrod!!

[imoksoami]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Actually everything I said here, I said to him personally.

Furthermore, I think you should get with the program and realize that racing is racing. When someone thinks someone else isn't fully disclosing everything, and calls them out for a full inspection, there is nothing personal involved. I did this all the time when I was the Tech Steward for US Touring Car a couple years back. And I thought no less of people who bent (or even blatantly broke) the rules. In fact, I was usually impressed with their creativity.

In the case of e90post.com drag racing, there aren't even any rules to begin with. And even if hotrod was caught of running nitrous, it wouldn't make him any more of a cheat than the others who run race gas maps and say they are running pump gas. Or rip out the interior when say that the car is full weight. This is just the nature of competition. And it doesn't make someone any less of a human being

Cheers,
shiv

Not Warren anyway... He isn't accusing you of being a liar. On the other hand if you take accusing people of being liars and cheats so lightly I think it does say a lot about you. Karmas a bitch and eventually it will catch up with you. Just my opinion.
Cheers

[Sniz]

I can believe the 117mph traps out of his car. Running higher boost, better gas, and drag radials w an auto. Clem hit 116mph running V2, Sunoco 104 and general tires.......so no reason to think Warren's car w his better setup cant hit 117mph. Hell, I think Clem's car will hit 117mph if you swap an auto into it.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by imoksoami

Not Warren anyway... He isn't accusing you of being a liar. On the other hand if you take accusing people of being liars and cheats so lightly I think it does say a lot about you. Karmas a bitch and eventually it will catch up with you. Just my opinion.
Cheers

cheating at what?

[imoksoami]

Originally Posted by Sniz

cheating at what?

Warren is claiming tune only- Shiv says no way, repeatedly and adamantly, he's running NOS. How would you take these accusations if the were pointed at you?
Cheers

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by brusso

Shiv didn't use the word cheat you did. I think the original offer still stands. If Warren shows up at a dyno and let's Shiv check out the car and proves Warren is running exactly what he says he may still be willing to pay out some cash.

Everyone here would show up for a free dyno and inspection for that kind of cash. Except Warren .... so far....

i wouldn't. 750 aint shit for the time, and distacne to travel just b/c someone called me out. If it were like 5grand. 100% sure i would go. Its about opportunity cost, and maybe like me, 750 was not enough

and what offer still stands??????? I cant believe we are still EVEN CONSIDERING hotrod IS SPRAYING....

shiv made a joke, and all of you are taking him seriously... sigh

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by Sniz

I can believe the 117mph traps out of his car. Running higher boost, better gas, and drag radials w an auto. Clem hit 116mph running V2, Sunoco 104 and general tires.......so no reason to think Warren's car w his better setup cant hit 117mph. Hell, I think Clem's car will hit 117mph if you swap an auto into it.

well shiv didnt beleive him and accused him of spraying. funny how when a v2 runs that number... no one says shit. real funny dont you think?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by imoksoami

Warren is claiming tune only- Shiv says no way, repeatedly and adamantly, he's running NOS. How would you take these accusations if the were pointed at you?
Cheers

well, honestly? I wouldn't really care all that much. Might strap a 50 shot in an go run a 121mph.

I know what my car will do, unless I had $ on the line, I dont care what others really think about it.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

i wouldn't. 750 aint shit for the time, and distacne to travel just b/c someone called me out. If it were like 5grand. 100% sure i would go. Its about opportunity cost, and maybe like me, 750 was not enough

and what offer still stands??????? I cant believe we are still EVEN CONSIDERING hotrod IS SPRAYING....

shiv made a joke, and all of you are taking him seriously... sigh

Did I miss my own joke? That would be a tough one for even me.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

shiv made a joke, and all of you are taking him seriously... sigh

imoksooksookiamoksok is just really wound up over this, others are too. All in good fun , we're not all in a competitive league here are we?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Did I miss my own joke? That would be a tough one for even me.

now I lol'd

[Vyruz Reaper]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Did I miss my own joke? That would be a tough one for even me.

shiv, you ARE the joke

[brusso]

Originally Posted by Vyruz Reaper

shiv, you ARE the joke

wow .... you wouldn't drive 1 hr for 1000 bucks on your day off or weekend ?


BALLER !!!!!!!!!!

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by brusso

wow .... you wouldn't drive 1 hr for 1000 bucks on your day off or weekend ?


BALLER !!!!!!!!!!

To be fair, if I lived with my parents, I probably wouldn't need money either.

Shiv