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hassmaschine · 08-27-2016, 10:25 AM

It means that they can't flow more fuel. At 95% duty cycle, they are effectively fully open 100% of the time. Even if you commanded 100%dc you wouldn't get more fuel due to injector response time.

Taskmaster · 08-28-2016, 09:42 AM

Tune is installed and the car feels fantastic, which is saying a lot considering the car already had a tune on it before.

I originally had the single stage manifold tune (Stage 1) which increased power everywhere, including the top of the RPM range. Unfortunately, the eccentric shaft failed on my car around the same time as the install (and I did know it was a problem beforehand) so I barely got to experience it in all of it's glory.

I recently repaired the eccentric shaft sensor, and swapped the intake manifold with a 3 stage manifold. Immediately noticeable is the increase in torque in the lower RPM ranage, but because I was running the wrong tune - there was a HUGE dip in the middle of the band and a fall off in power near redline.

I'm happy to say that's all in the past now - more power everywhere, or at least more linear power. No drop in the middle of the band with the big DISA transition and no fall off in power at the top of the rev range. It even seems to have gotten quicker from when I first installed the tune. I'll be resetting adaptations and giving it another shakedown, but right now, no complaints.

stewey · 08-28-2016, 10:49 AM

Sounds awesome!! Can't wait to fix my POS and do the exact same thing

Rodny · 08-28-2016, 06:03 PM

Axiom,
What tune did you had before going with bpc?

Taskmaster · 08-28-2016, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodny

Axiom,
What tune did you had before going with bpc?

None - I went from the single stage tune to the 3 stage tune.

JuniorB · 08-29-2016, 04:28 AM

10-4 on the cycle duty,a thousand things run thru your mind when you want to upgrade. I've installed the nitrous and it fun,I have the 3si with no tune yet cause the headers are not in. I can't wait to tune it all,but now that there is a higher potential with the n54 intake,it's hard to figure out what would be better. I've seen one member with the n54 and it didn't go very well for him,anyone else done it? If I'm wide open throttle,are all the disa valves open or just redirected? Thanks guys.

INTMD8 · 08-30-2016, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

I think I have posted this before, but here you go.

I've read this entire thread trying to educate myself on these. Thanks for your work thus far!

May I ask why the blue graph stays at stoich for so long? Thanks.

JuniorB · 09-02-2016, 08:51 PM

Hi bob,I'm running the 3si with nitrous now,all stock,with a burger box,I know there's Moro to be had here,what's with the n54 intake.can it work for my auto or should I keep running the nos thru this intake,I also have the stock one off the car. I'm also doing aa headers but no tune,I'd like to tune it all at once. Rather than pay for the tool,should I send you the ecm? Do you think it will need more than one tune to complete,then I'll tune for the nos. Thank you,

larrysing · 09-14-2016, 08:29 PM

Did you see what BPC put on Instagram today?

616.91 HP and 1258 tq from a 335d

I nit you shot.

Can't wait to see the details on how they did that !!!

EDIT UPDATE:

NEVERMIND IT WAS A DYNO ERROR !!

"whitenoise98gtSorry guys as much as I wish this was true this is just the dyno being stupid, from time to time it gets put of sync and can come up with some crazy numbers, but we will have another stage 2.5 plus meth hitting the rollers tomorrow."

tlow98 · 09-15-2016, 03:11 AM

Wow, gotta love the diesel!

What's the approx cost for a N52 3 stage intake manifold tune?

Duh around but just not sure what to go by.

E91 M Sport · 09-15-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by larrysing

Did you see what BPC put on Instagram today?

616.91 HP and 1258 tq from a 335d

I nit you shot.

Can't wait to see the details on how they did that !!!

Weird I follow them and I haven't seen anything.

Ruddigger · 09-16-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by E91 M Sport

Weird I follow them and I haven't seen anything.

Could be because instagram is doing the facebook thing, picking and choosing what you see. Sucks.

tlow98 · 09-16-2016, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruddigger

Could be because instagram is doing the facebook thing, picking and choosing what you see. Sucks.

Wait, really? Damnit. That's bs

larrysing · 09-16-2016, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tlow98

Wait, really? Damnit. That's bs

larrysing · 09-16-2016, 07:29 PM

Uh-oh !!

"whitenoise98gtSorry guys as much as I wish this was true this is just the dyno being stupid, from time to time it gets put of sync and can come up with some crazy numbers, but we will have another stage 2.5 plus meth hitting the rollers tomorrow."

Ruddigger · 09-16-2016, 07:37 PM

Thats true, I dyno'd a 288 the other day, but it was just a weird dyno thing.

E91 M Sport · 09-17-2016, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruddigger

Could be because instagram is doing the facebook thing, picking and choosing what you see. Sucks.

Yea but I don't see it when I view the actual page as opposed to my feed.

Taskmaster · 09-24-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hassmaschine

no, the head is a little different because it's placed in a new location and it's a brushless DC motor so MSV70/MSV80 doesn't have the right hardware for it either.

However all of the rest of the drivetrain bits, including the cams, should be compatible. But I would be surprised if the turbo profile was good for the N52.

the N52B25 profile could be interesting though. It might be more aggressive to make up for the smaller displacement. But I'm just speculating.

http://www.sccaproracing.com/files/V...90%2091106.pdf

http://www.world-challenge.com/image...-325-Ver-5.pdf

hassmaschine · 09-25-2016, 05:20 PM

Nice find! I dont think those are stock 325i cams, but it looks like they used valvetronic. Those specs could be a good starting point - 349 degrees at 0.01" sounds good to me

Taskmaster · 09-27-2016, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Nice find! I dont think those are stock 325i cams, but it looks like they used valvetronic. Those specs could be a good starting point - 349 degrees at 0.01" sounds good to me

349 degrees duration? That sounds...racecar high.

justpete · 09-27-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheAxiom

349 degrees duration? That sounds...racecar high.

Ya know, you should email Schrick with the pdfs to see if they have built cams for this race series. Maybe we've all been asking the question wrong.

Taskmaster · 09-27-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by justpete

Ya know, you should email Schrick with the pdfs to see if they have built cams for this race series. Maybe we've all been asking the question wrong.

They SUCK with Email.

Probably Sunbelt or the like if I had to guess. Doesn't anyone know someone who has a C or D mod E90 series car?

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hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	It means that they can't flow more fuel. At 95% duty cycle, they are effectively fully open 100% of the time. Even if you commanded 100%dc you wouldn't get more fuel due to injector response time.
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08-28-2016, 09:42 AM	#772
Taskmaster Banned 2465 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	Tune is installed and the car feels fantastic, which is saying a lot considering the car already had a tune on it before. I originally had the single stage manifold tune (Stage 1) which increased power everywhere, including the top of the RPM range. Unfortunately, the eccentric shaft failed on my car around the same time as the install (and I did know it was a problem beforehand) so I barely got to experience it in all of it's glory. I recently repaired the eccentric shaft sensor, and swapped the intake manifold with a 3 stage manifold. Immediately noticeable is the increase in torque in the lower RPM ranage, but because I was running the wrong tune - there was a HUGE dip in the middle of the band and a fall off in power near redline. I'm happy to say that's all in the past now - more power everywhere, or at least more linear power. No drop in the middle of the band with the big DISA transition and no fall off in power at the top of the rev range. It even seems to have gotten quicker from when I first installed the tune. I'll be resetting adaptations and giving it another shakedown, but right now, no complaints. Last edited by Taskmaster; 08-28-2016 at 10:56 AM..
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08-28-2016, 10:49 AM	#773
stewey Second Lieutenant 71 Rep 246 Posts Drives: 2006 325i 6MT Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Victoria, BC iTrader: (0)	Sounds awesome!! Can't wait to fix my POS and do the exact same thing
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08-28-2016, 06:03 PM	#774
Rodny First Lieutenant 39 Rep 344 Posts Drives: 08 328i Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Axiom, What tune did you had before going with bpc? __________________
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08-29-2016, 04:28 AM	#776
JuniorB Major 185 Rep 1,017 Posts Drives: 07 e60 525 N54 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	10-4 on the cycle duty,a thousand things run thru your mind when you want to upgrade. I've installed the nitrous and it fun,I have the 3si with no tune yet cause the headers are not in. I can't wait to tune it all,but now that there is a higher potential with the n54 intake,it's hard to figure out what would be better. I've seen one member with the n54 and it didn't go very well for him,anyone else done it? If I'm wide open throttle,are all the disa valves open or just redirected? Thanks guys.
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JuniorB Major 185 Rep 1,017 Posts Drives: 07 e60 525 N54 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	Hi bob,I'm running the 3si with nitrous now,all stock,with a burger box,I know there's Moro to be had here,what's with the n54 intake.can it work for my auto or should I keep running the nos thru this intake,I also have the stock one off the car. I'm also doing aa headers but no tune,I'd like to tune it all at once. Rather than pay for the tool,should I send you the ecm? Do you think it will need more than one tune to complete,then I'll tune for the nos. Thank you,
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09-14-2016, 08:29 PM	#779
larrysing First Lieutenant 95 Rep 308 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M-Sport, Nav/Blinds Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335d [0.00]	Did you see what BPC put on Instagram today? 616.91 HP and 1258 tq from a 335d I nit you shot. Can't wait to see the details on how they did that !!! EDIT UPDATE: NEVERMIND IT WAS A DYNO ERROR !! "whitenoise98gtSorry guys as much as I wish this was true this is just the dyno being stupid, from time to time it gets put of sync and can come up with some crazy numbers, but we will have another stage 2.5 plus meth hitting the rollers tomorrow." Last edited by larrysing; 09-16-2016 at 07:30 PM..
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09-15-2016, 03:11 AM	#780
tlow98 Major General 2185 Rep 5,000 Posts Drives: 2009 E91, 2014 F15 x35i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (2)	Wow, gotta love the diesel! What's the approx cost for a N52 3 stage intake manifold tune? Duh around but just not sure what to go by.
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larrysing First Lieutenant 95 Rep 308 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M-Sport, Nav/Blinds Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Arlington, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335d [0.00]	Uh-oh !! "whitenoise98gtSorry guys as much as I wish this was true this is just the dyno being stupid, from time to time it gets put of sync and can come up with some crazy numbers, but we will have another stage 2.5 plus meth hitting the rollers tomorrow."
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hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Nice find! I dont think those are stock 325i cams, but it looks like they used valvetronic. Those specs could be a good starting point - 349 degrees at 0.01" sounds good to me
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