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      11-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #23
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Only difference is the numbers, that's about it and to KwlAznKid, these cars aren't slow. The 325, 328, 330 came out in 2006 and the 0-60 times were 5-6 seconds, cars in 2010 averaged 0-60 in 9.5-10 seconds. That's 4 years and our cars was still faster than most cars in 2010.
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I've never driven a 328 but I'm sure that with my current mods, I have more power than a 328 -- says my butt dyno


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Or you can put a stage 3 intake manifold in, used or new doesn't matter. Then do an AA tune. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=634855

It actually gives 40+ Hp for a 325i. My car is faster then my brothers 330i. So obviously it worked.
+1. There are a handful of members on the board that have successfully done the "330i" swap along with their other respective mods.

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quit making stuff up guys. there is little to no difference...at all. Driven both, i used to have a 325i.. its about the same. but the 325i had quite a few problems because it was like the first of its kind.
Agreed. I drive a 2006 325i with the production date being in the first half of the year and the only problem was t-stat and water pump.
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Whats the problem with the water pump and tstat?

Whats the problem with the water pump and tstat?

Needs a bigger one?
Or its a known failure area?
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Whats the problem with the water pump and tstat?

Needs a bigger one?
Or its a known failure area?
I'm not sure I'd call it a common problem because I've heard of it failing anywhere from 70k-ish miles to 100k. I don't believe replacing the tstat is mandatory when you do your water pump but I did to be on the safe side.
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quit making stuff up guys. there is little to no difference...at all. Driven both, i used to have a 325i.. its about the same. but the 325i had quite a few problems because it was like the first of its kind.
I can second that. The engine shakes at idle and seems a bit off.
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Only difference is the numbers, that's about it and to KwlAznKid, these cars aren't slow. The 325, 328, 330 came out in 2006 and the 0-60 times were 5-6 seconds, cars in 2010 averaged 0-60 in 9.5-10 seconds. That's 4 years and our cars was still faster than most cars in 2010.
No way a 325i can get close to a 0-60 time of 6 seconds. 330i seems like the way to go.
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No way a 325i can get close to a 0-60 time of 6 seconds. 330i seems like the way to go.
Mine beats it.
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So gunnerxq what do you think it cost you?
Did you install the manifold yourself?
I think for most people modding a car is something that makes
it there own and unique. Its like saying this amp goes to 11.
I do everything myself, springs, shocks, exhaust you name it except tints. And it cost me around $1400 because I decided to buy everything new.
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whoa i'm sorry everyone, didn't mean to start a war here, let me rephrase i guess, they are NOT fast cars, and yes i guess fast or slow is all relative, my 328i with its 230 hp is "slow" compared to a v6 accord which is well i think we can all agree a pretty average car so that's why i said slow.

once again i didn't come in here to BASH on anyone's car, i have a 328i myself, you guys need to relax

and i stand behind what i said about these not being fast cars. if the op is concerned about speed then 325s and 328s ARE NOT the right cars to consider, can we agree on that? if he just wants to go fast get a v8 stang! we all know bmws aren't built for straight line speed
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whoa i'm sorry everyone, didn't mean to start a war here, let me rephrase i guess, they are NOT fast cars, and yes i guess fast or slow is all relative, my 328i with its 230 hp is "slow" compared to a v6 accord which is well i think we can all agree a pretty average car so that's why i said slow.

once again i didn't come in here to BASH on anyone's car, i have a 328i myself, you guys need to relax

and i stand behind what i said about these not being fast cars. if the op is concerned about speed then 325s and 328s ARE NOT the right cars to consider, can we agree on that? if he just wants to go fast get a v8 stang! we all know bmws aren't built for straight line speed
You are right about the point that people who buy lower models like 323,325,328 or even the 330 are not looking for pure performance or speed in their vehicles. However, my 328i is definitely faster than most cars are the road and I can use the power efficiently whenever I need to pass or in a hurry.

A V6 accord is slower than a 328i in terms of straightline performance, 0-60 tested on a 328i is around 6.5s, and a V6 Accord is about 7.5s I would believe that my 328i can take a V6 accord on a track any day as well.
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You are right about the point that people who buy lower models like 323,325,328 or even the 330 are not looking for pure performance or speed in their vehicles. However, my 328i is definitely faster than most cars are the road and I can use the power efficiently whenever I need to pass or in a hurry.

A V6 accord is slower than a 328i in terms of straightline performance, 0-60 tested on a 328i is around 6.5s, and a V6 Accord is about 7.5s I would believe that my 328i can take a V6 accord on a track any day as well.

A V6 Accord Coupe can easily go from 0-60 in the low 6s with the MT. I would say stock for stock, MT to MT a V6 Accord is about equal to the 328 in terms of straight-line performance, which is to say both cars are pretty quick.
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A V6 Accord Coupe can easily go from 0-60 in the 6s with the MT. I would say stock for stock, MT to MT a V6 Accord is about equal to the 328 in terms of straight-line performance, which is to say both cars are pretty quick.
Yes, they are similar. Apparently the 2013 Accord V6 claimed to hit 60 in 6.1s which is very impressive.

However, I still would say that a V6 Accord Coupe would get dusted by an e92 328i on a track.
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You are right about the point that people who buy lower models like 323,325,328 or even the 330 are not looking for pure performance or speed in their vehicles. However, my 328i is definitely faster than most cars are the road and I can use the power efficiently whenever I need to pass or in a hurry.

A V6 accord is slower than a 328i in terms of straightline performance, 0-60 tested on a 328i is around 6.5s, and a V6 Accord is about 7.5s I would believe that my 328i can take a V6 accord on a track any day as well.

that part i bolded is EXACTLY what i was going for, trust me i can appreciate bmws (see sig) I LOVE BMWs 328 or m3, i love em all, and my mistake on the "accord" statement if that was incorrect, i didn't say that based on any sort of research. but what i was trying to state to the OP in my first post is NOT that a 328 isn't a great, car (because it is, or else i wouldn't own one) but it's that a 328/325 is NOT built for straightline speed and when it comes to daily driving (at least in my opinion) 15 hp doesn't make a huge difference in a daily commute agree?
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that part i bolded is EXACTLY what i was going for, trust me i can appreciate bmws (see sig) I LOVE BMWs 328 or m3, i love em all, and my mistake on the "accord" statement if that was incorrect, i didn't say that based on any sort of research. but what i was trying to state to the OP in my first post is NOT that a 328 isn't a great, car (because it is, or else i wouldn't own one) but it's that a 328/325 is NOT built for straightline speed and when it comes to daily driving (at least in my opinion) 15 hp doesn't make a huge difference in a daily commute agree?
I totally understand where you are coming from And yes, 15hp is unnoticeable during everyday driving (I test drove them both before making my decision).
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both are slow as hell so it really doesn't matter, if you're looking for speed you are looking at the wrong cars
Just looking at your name pisses me off..KwlAznKid...So I'm just going to say this; take a seat, slap yourself, get back up, and get off the forum.
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I totally understand where you are coming from And yes, 15hp is unnoticeable during everyday driving (I test drove them both before making my decision).



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Just looking at your name pisses me off..KwlAznKid...So I'm just going to say this; take a seat, slap yourself, get back up, and get off the forum.
relax man, lol i get shit for my name all the time, made it when i was really young, and it just stuck with me, clam down man like i said i'm not here to fight or anything, can't we just all get along?
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You are right about the point that people who buy lower models like 323,325,328 or even the 330 are not looking for pure performance or speed in their vehicles. However, my 328i is definitely faster than most cars are the road and I can use the power efficiently whenever I need to pass or in a hurry.

A V6 accord is slower than a 328i in terms of straightline performance, 0-60 tested on a 328i is around 6.5s, and a V6 Accord is about 7.5s I would believe that my 328i can take a V6 accord on a track any day as well.
Idk if you've driven a 330..but they're plenty fast and all you need to do to these n52 are just a few bolt-ons/tune and its a whole different car. Guys it a BMW...they're fast cars, drive a civic for 2 days and then go back to your beemer, you'll appreciate it so much more....
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Idk if you've driven a 330..but they're plenty fast and all you need to do to these n52 are just a few bolt-ons/tune and its a whole different car. Guys it a BMW...they're fast cars, drive a civic for 2 days and then go back to your beemer, you'll appreciate it so much more....
I haven't driven a 330i so I can't really comment. I agree that our cars are quick and even quicker with a tune but as always, people can always disagree as this topic is all "relative".

I see an average of 30-50 civics on any given day, and although I am aware that a 3er is common as well. I have driven rav4s, siennas, accords in the past and all I can say is that I am grateful for what I have. No car I have driven has even come close with how well my car handles and performs overall, even the 2012 X5.
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I haven't driven a 330i so I can't really comment. I agree that our cars are quick and even quicker with a tune but as always, people can always disagree as this topic is all "relative".

I see an average of 30-50 civics on any given day, and although I am aware that a 3er is common as well. I have driven rav4s, siennas, accords in the past and all I can say is that I am grateful for what I have. No car I have driven has even come close with how well my car handles and performs overall, even the 2012 X5.
Exactly, man. After driving my around a civic for a few days ahhh there is no feel! Then borrowing my dads 08 x5 still its heavy but slow because of the weight. Jumping back in my 330xi..i couldn't appreciate it anymore. Handling, comfort, noise, speed, just a few things you can't get out of anything else except a BMW. cheers guys
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Exactly, man. After driving my around a civic for a few days ahhh there is no feel! Then borrowing my dads 08 x5 still its heavy but slow because of the weight. Jumping back in my 330xi..i couldn't appreciate it anymore. Handling, comfort, noise, speed, just a few things you can't get out of anything else except a BMW. cheers guys
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In Taiwan, the 325i really is a 2.5l engine and puts down 220hp. Not that fastest thing in the universe but more than adequate and so smooth. I will miss it when/if I switch to the 2.0l 4 cylinder despite the power and torque boost.
For reference on BMW power levels, you can get a 320i here with 155hp, and even 316 and 318d. So even the 325 is in the middle of the power ban for our cars.
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