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      09-02-2011, 11:54 PM   #45
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Well, the drivers of these types of cars in Vancouver don't appear to be good drivers since I see about 2 supercars in the body shops along the Burrard St. area getting front end damage repaired every week. For the number of those cars around, the % is pretty high being repaired.
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      09-03-2011, 12:01 AM   #46
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Yeah I would think they would need substantial proof of the alleged speeding before impounding?? Not that I don't think they were speeding, probably more weaving in and out to stay close to one another.. which pisses other drivers off.. but damn did they really have to impound if the cops don't have their speeds clocked?
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These cars are going to be auctioned off as this is similar to the case where an M6 and a Ferrari Scuderia were caught excessively speeding and were both auctioned off through the tough BC forfeiture act.

http://www.bc.rcmp.ca/ViewPage.actio...6714&q=ferrari
There is ZERO evidence!!!!! No, their cars WILL NOT be auctioned off!!! Moreover, there are reports that most of these cars aren't even outright owned.

It's a pretty bold statement to make...You should read and comprehend before you make such a statement...

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      09-03-2011, 01:03 AM   #48
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Time will tell, let's see what evidence the police will gather...
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      09-03-2011, 01:41 AM   #49
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These guys were probably driving like asses, but I don't think it was as bad as people may think. Probably similar to how some of the guys drive from our site.

There's two possible scenarios:

1) They were doing 100km/h-200 runs when traffic opened up and genuinely driving like idiots

2) They were flooring it when the road opened up to about 160 (something half this website does) and possibly driving 10-20 over the limit acting cool while switching lanes like idiots (i've seen some of our members do this on the way to meets).

Now regardless of scenario, it is stupid on their part, but a lot of us may be guilty of the same driving, the fact that they had 13 nice cars doing this put them in the spotlight.

If any of you come on the local exotics cruises with your weekend cars you will see similar type of driving amongst the members. Although it's not during rush hours, the majority of the drivers do drive like total idiots. It's usually the kid who's dad let him take the ferrari for the first time or the 50 year old who after years of working can finally afford a Lambo and is over excited.



If by east you mean southern ontario, there are definitely CULTS of exotic owners that go out on crazy cruises... majority of them in teens or early 20's. Definitely a bunch of these groups and they tend to band together with other exotic car gruops.




I HIGHLY doubt that even one of these cars will be auctioned off.
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to those who have done excessive speeds on public roads and acting like they are saints compared to these guys.
Totally agree with both of you...and who are we to judge whether a car is moving at 150 km/h or 200 km/h...Something like that is very hard to judge without the proper instruments.
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      09-03-2011, 02:33 AM   #50
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Yeah I would think they would need substantial proof of the alleged speeding before impounding?? Not that I don't think they were speeding, probably more weaving in and out to stay close to one another.. which pisses other drivers off.. but damn did they really have to impound if the cops don't have their speeds clocked?
If 20+ people call in to law enforcement alleging 13 cars are speeding, tell me. . . How much more proof is needed? Brand of car has nothing to do with it. . . If it were a group of 13 civics we'd be looking at the exact same scenario with the only difference being that 13 super cars that are more easily distinguished on top of the drivers being of a very young age creates public 'envy' and a little more pressure for something to be one. 7 days at the impound lot an a $194 are a far cry from 'heavy punishment. . .
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      09-03-2011, 02:48 AM   #51
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Time will tell, let's see what evidence the police will gather...
Unless that group was stupid enough to video or document their 'joy ride' , law enforcement has nothing. It doesn't take a law degree to argue that the VERY few people can discern the difference between 180 and 200 or even 160 and 200. If the whole group were to admit to the same excessive speed how would anyone be able to say different? You can't charge all parties with speeding 60 km/h over and then add an additional charge of speeding 100 km/h over. It's one or the other which is why they are able to charge drivers with 'reckless driving' or 'racing'. I don't know about the rest of Canada, but they've passed new legislation here that gives them the power to charge you with 'racing' if you exceed the speed limit by 50 km/h or more even if you're the only vehicle. . .

Anyways some of you should stop judging and being so envious. . . Those 13 young guys will have more than their fair share of trouble especially with as much public envy and outcry as there has been. . . MYOB
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      09-03-2011, 02:59 AM   #52
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Now regardless of scenario, it is stupid on their part, but a lot of us may be guilty of the same driving, the fact that they had 13 nice cars doing this put them in the spotlight.
I could not have said it better myself. That's why you buy a 335i and mod it

Honestly speaking, if any one of us had those vehicles, we would not be driving around obeying the speed limit (I know, blanket statement). This whole story is a little blown out of proportion.
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      09-03-2011, 03:26 AM   #53
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I could not have said it better myself. That's why you buy a 335i and mod it

Honestly speaking, if any one of us had those vehicles, we would not be driving around obeying the speed limit (I know, blanket statement). This whole story is a little blown out of proportion.
I wouldn't be obeying the dumbass 90-100 km/h highway speed limits in BC even if I drove a Toyota Corolla....
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im sure after the parents make a few calls and donate some $ to the city this will all be forgotton lol, you think people with that kind of dough just let their cars be impounded? If anything they will be lawyered up and ready to put up a fight - there was no measurement of speed so how could they be charged with racing? if anything dangerous driving......
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One of the comments on the newscast was to adopt Australia's learner driver system where high performance vehicles are off limits until 25 years old:

Under P1 Provisional drivers - High powered Vehicles

http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/newrules

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      09-03-2011, 01:23 PM   #56
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One of the comments on the newscast was to adopt Australia's learner driver system where high performance vehicles are off limits until 25 years old:

Under P1 Provisional drivers - High powered Vehicles

http://www.mylicence.sa.gov.au/newrules
lmfao, 350/370Z is considered a "high-powered" vehicle......LOLWUT!?
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im abit of a troll here on the board as im gathering info on a 335 before i purchase for winter but im probably the only one of my friends that dont speed.. i drive an r8 spyder btw and im too anal to cause i dont think its worth it.

a friend of mine out west, where im frequent said these kids are all from hong kong and theyre gonna get bailed out by their powerful parents via embassy and government.

i also agree with the fact that if theres no evidence then theres no real grounds for a real criminal charge. how can one prove beyond a reasonable doubt without evidence?
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      09-03-2011, 09:56 PM   #58
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All it takes is one video and a witness. They may even be able to pull the GPS logs out of one of the ps3's, I mean GT-R's:

http://m.ctv.ca/bc/20110902/bc_stree...nd_110902.html

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So witnesses called the police while driving, eh?...I wonder how much we can trust such sources when they, themselves, are breaking the law by driving and using their phones, no? lol.....

I'm not saying; I'm just saying...
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So witnesses called the police while driving, eh?...I wonder how much we can trust such sources when they, themselves, are breaking the law by driving and using their phones, no? lol.....

I'm not saying; I'm just saying...
How true, its funny how these things get overlooked when "high dollar cars" are involved. The cops just wanted to make the news.
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Update:
http://www.theprovince.com/cars/Stre...542/story.html

Looks like the gov't is out to confiscate their cars!
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http://www.theprovince.com/cars/Stre...542/story.html

Looks like the gov't is out to confiscate their cars!
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Superintendent Norm Gaumont, head of traffic services for the RCMP in the Lower Mainland, said in a release there was not enough evidence against the drivers to proceed with criminal charges.

“With the criminal avenue closed to us, we decided to see if there was enough evidence to proceed civilly,” said Gaumont.
Obviously they were never going to have enough evidence, but still what happened is stupid. If they have any hopes of keeping those vehicles, they all should have kept their mouths shut and not bragged about it in person or online. Ah well
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[Superintendent Norm Gaumont, head of traffic services for the RCMP in the Lower Mainland, said in a release there was not enough evidence against the drivers to proceed with criminal charges.

“With the criminal avenue closed to us, we decided to see if there was enough evidence to proceed civilly,” said Gaumont./QUOTE]

Obviously they were never going to have enough evidence, but still what happened is stupid. If they have any hopes of keeping those vehicles, they all should have kept their mouths shut and not bragged about it in person or online. Ah well
Right, not enough evidence for criminal but they're trying for civil.
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Right, not enough evidence for criminal but they're trying for civil.
I don't know this for sure, but I wouldn't doubt all 13 cars being seized.

IF 2 or more cars did indeed block traffic so that the others could 'race', how much more evidence would they need? Not very much.

Since they changed the laws here in Alberta, even a single vehicle exceeding the speed limit by 50+kmph can get you a citation for racing with or without other cars around. Obviously they were all going ATLEAST 50kmph over.

They wouldn't need to prove they were going or exceeding 200kmph since going after the 13 for 'street racing'.

It sucks but all you guys talking sh!t about their parents donating to whoever and these 13 young adults getting away with it, looks more than likely all 13 will be seized.

GG! Time to save up for that pending auction
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